When intentional walk goes wrong

CochiseCowbell

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1) That kid looks 2 years older than all the rest.
2) I kinda blame that one on the umpire. It looked like the catcher just wanted to stand in the other batter's box but blue instructed him not to.
 

drt7891

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The pitcher, batter, and catcher must be in their respective boxes (or in the pitcher's case, toe the rubber) in order for the ball to become live. The catcher must remain in the box until the leaves the pitcher's hand. That's why catchers in college and the major league hold their hand out and have to jump out to where the ball is thrown during an IBB. If not, it's a catcher's balk (same as any other balk).
 

CochiseCowbell

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The pitcher, batter, and catcher must be in their respective boxes (or in the pitcher's case, toe the rubber) in order for the ball to become live. The catcher must remain in the box until the leaves the pitcher's hand. That's why catchers in college and the major league hold their hand out and have to jump out to where the ball is thrown during an IBB. If not, it's a catcher's balk (same as any other balk).

Catcher's Balk? So the runners advance a base? This is why baseball is such a great sport. Just when you think you have it all figured out, it never ceases to amaze. This is the second rule I've learned this year, and the first two I've learned in over 10. The first was swinging strike three in the dirt, first base occupied, batter can advance if, and only if, there are two outs.
 

AlanDawg

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Catcher's Balk? So the runners advance a base? This is why baseball is such a great sport. Just when you think you have it all figured out, it never ceases to amaze. This is the second rule I've learned this year, and the first two I've learned in over 10. The first was swinging strike three in the dirt, first base occupied, batter can advance if, and only if, there are two outs.

You need to watch more baseball. Both of these are pretty basic rules if you are a baseball fan at all.
 

patdog

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I've never heard of or seen a catcher's balk in my life until this thread. I've seen catcher's interference many times, but never a catcher's balk.
 

drt7891

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It's very rare it's called, but it is a rule. It comes into play more when the umpire signals the ball to become live. He won't make the signal until the catcher, batter, and pitcher are all in the right place.
 

MStateFan22

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Got a balk called on me in HS one time at first base for having one foot in foul territory. Ump yelled balk and pointed at me. I looked at him with a dumbfounded look on my face. Never heard that rule until then. I'm not sure you'll ever know that rule just by watching baseball. I've watched baseball all my life and never seen it come up in a game.
 

drt7891

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Yea the swinging strike rule is to keep runners on base from getting doubled up. Kinda like an infield fly.
 

drt7891

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Haha yet another rule that all defensive players must have both feet in fair territory, so he was right. These things are so rare though.

Another crazy rule is if a ball is thrown into dead ball territory(stands, dugout) from an infielder, runners are awarded one base... If its thrown from an outfielder, it's two bases. Actually had to make that call in a game and the coach told me I made it up. He got my number and apologized after he read in the rule book where I was right.
 

patdog

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Not doubting that it's a rule. Just pointing out that AlanDawg's comment that every casual baseball fan should know it is probably not accurate.
 

kired

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Since when do kids that age actually have to pitch an IBB? I haven't watched anything other than college or MLB since I got out of highschool about 15 years ago... but I don't ever remember having to pitch when we wanted to walk a guy. We just told the ump and put him on.
 

thekimmer

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I think the free pass rule varies......

Since when do kids that age actually have to pitch an IBB? I haven't watched anything other than college or MLB since I got out of highschool about 15 years ago... but I don't ever remember having to pitch when we wanted to walk a guy. We just told the ump and put him on.

I know in some college conferences you used to be able to put a man on without pitching to him. I know that because it was used against MSU by UNO or UAB or somebody like that years ago.

Same thing likely applies in youth ball too although I would think the vast majority would have the automatic walk rule for time consideration especially those that play timed games.

Personally I think a team should have to pitch a guy on base intentionally because you are doing it to create an advantage so you should have to face the risk of doing it no matter how slight. Disaster has struck on rare occasions and has occurred at all levels.
 

SanfordRJones

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I recently learned a weird rule. If a runner who is forced to advance reaches base safely and then leaves the base toward the previous base, the force play is back on. I have been involved with baseball for over 30 years and have never seen that happen.
 

aerodawg.sixpack

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Interestingly enough it was called in a Fastpitch CWS game a few weeks ago against Tennessee. The catcher stepped out before the ball left the pitcher's hand. It is kind of interesting comparing rules between baseball and fastpitch as well as general strategies etc. I never watched a game before dating my fiancee and now I do enjoy watching our team and the CWS play softball.
 

Philly Dawg

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I'm probably what you'd call a casual fan, but I watch a lot of baseball and have never heard of the catcher's balk rule or seen it called in a game.