When we suck next year in basketball

[tenureplan]

Due to us running off Stans, Can someone go ahead and ban C34 and his pack of nonconformists for being responsible of MSU basketball's return to the cellar of the SEC West?

Secondly please refrain from using the "Stans left the cupboard empty" excuses.</p>

 

[tenureplan]

Due to us running off Stans, Can someone go ahead and ban C34 and his pack of nonconformists for being responsible of MSU basketball's return to the cellar of the SEC West?

Secondly please refrain from using the "Stans left the cupboard empty" excuses.</p>

 

[DerHntr]

interesting. i bet it was C34 who did it right?!!

 

[tenureplan]

Along with has merry band of tail-chasers. It would have been more productive if they would have found a leader wanting them to "drink the koolaid". We're all about to find out how much MSU Basketball has overachieved for the past decade.</p>

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

All will be well.

 

[DerHntr]

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[tenureplan]

How happy would you be if on a daily basis at your job, anonymous people continued to post on the break-room bulletin board how poorly you performed? Now lets pretend that you actually do your job pretty well.

My point is, the vocal minority outposts everyone else, which leaves the impression the we are all a bunch of ingrates. </p>

 

[DerHntr]

[No message]

 

[futaba.79]

but all schools have message boards. All message boards have fishwaters and coach34s. We are not unique in that regard.

 

[tenureplan]

I wouldn't expect an intelligent response anyway</p>

 

[DerHntr]

your expectations of me are EXACTLY the same expectations that Stans most likely has for message board fodder.

 

[MSUCosmo]

So, if all this turns out to be false and the team does in fact suck next year, can we blame Stansbury without all of you apologists continuing to slobber all over his knob?

Seriously, we lose 2 seniors off this team, Sidney is iffy at best, Bost is unhappy, and there's not much talent on the bench but we'd suck next year only because those big bad 6packers ran off the greatest SEC Champion winning , first round of the NCAA dominating coach in MSU history?

Gotta love MSU fans and their love for career coaches.

 

[sardis]

and there wouldn't be as much to say. I hope he wins the ACC as well as that means "he's gone".

 

[tenureplan]

that the message boards are Stans' main reason for going. I am going to believe they probably conversed.

I am not going to say it is the only reason. Here are some other likely reasons:

1) Money was better
2) He feels like he will get the call there
3) Bigger budget
4) Fresh start

I know that message boards are everywhere. But I guarantee that you won't see the level of bashing on the Clemson boards that you saw here over the past couple of years.

 

[KurtRambis4]

Rick is leaving because of some posts on a message board just isn't very smart.

 

[Tds &amp; Beer]

How happy would you be if on a daily basis at your job, anonymous people continued to post on the break-room bulletin board how poorly you performed? </p>

I would hate it. Then I would try tonot to suck so bad. So I guess he doesn't read this then.

 

[DerHntr]

When we suck next year in basketball Due to us running off Stans,...............

now you add in all sorts of other stuff. looks like backpedaling to me. but hey, i wouldn't expect anything less (tenureplan, 2010).

/gotta make sure i cite you properly

 

[pgddawg]

Along with has merry band of tail-chasers. It would have been more productive if they would have found a leader wanting them to "drink the koolaid". We're all about to find out how much MSU Basketball has overachieved for the past decade.</p>

I hope to hell you are being sarcastic. In case you did not notice, we went to the NIT this year with the team we had...there is no defending that.
</p>

 

[tenureplan]

I dont thing all of those other reasons combined would have been enough for him to leave. The guy and his family bleed maroon.I would say that he would have to be pretty hurt to leave on his own free will.

 

[MadDawg.sixpack]

Then the new coach will get 4-5 years to run the program down before anyone even places any expectations on him. It is the M-State way.

(of course, Stans would be expected to make the sweet 16 next year with the same players)

 

[DerHntr]

hurt to go coach in a better conference. hurt to get more money (assumption of course). i am sure the man has a lot of strong feelings for MSU but damn it man, that is some funny stuff right there. the message boards put him over the top and now he has to go make millions with his tail tucked between his legs. poor fella.

 

[tenureplan]

Ididn't expect the bare cupboard excuses to start this early...

 

[tenureplan]

where the school with the 10th highest basketball budget in the SEC belongs. We are going to see a return to the late 80's early 90's.

 

[Tds &amp; Beer]

Hello. We're gonna be good next year. </p>

 

[mstateglfr]

I am not going to say it is the only reason. Here are some other likely reasons:

2) He feels like he will get the call there

Please elaborate.

 

[Roy Munson.sixpack]

are you saying that the cupboard ISNT bare for next year??? We couldnt make the tourney this year with what we had and you say it isnt bare for next year? You have got to be shitting me. We compete in the **** that is the sec west and he thinks hes gonna be on a gravy train with biscuit wheels in the acc at clemson? Next year, with or without rick, we will be mediocre at best with a better chance of being terrible than good.

 

[paindonthurt_]

if you have the budget to get the talent, then you have the budget to win.

Our talent was better than our record. If you can't admit that then you can leave with Stans.

 

[tenureplan]

We are Mstate.

Did you watch either KY game? The FL game?

Clemson is a bigger name school and isn't subject to the hose jobs we receive.

Granted, were I him, I wouldn't expect the call vs Machesky or Dean Smith Jr.

 

[tenureplan]

He did more with less here, so he could do more with more there. We will see how good of a recruiter he was/wasn't over the next few years. I will agree that a team that takes KY to overtime twice shouldn't lose to Rider. We had alot of talent yes, talent that all did the same thing. We lacked complementing talent, but this isn't a talent thread.</p>

 

[tenureplan]

Kodi is NBA level talent...There is Bost if he doesn't leave...Phil would start on other SEC teams....Ravern was our leading Scorer...Osby showed promise. We would only be missing 2 players, albeit we would have a gaping hole at center.

Its funny that on the same thread someone else was talking about how much talent we had this past year. Barry is replaceable. Jarvis isn't. So was Jarvis all of the talent we had?

 

[GhostOfJackie]

Rick leaving because of a few doubters on a message board? I actually would be excited to see a new face.

 

[GhostOfJackie]

(of course, Stans would be expected to make the sweet 16 next year with the same players)

I never expected Stans to make the sweet 16. Not a good enough coach.

 

[Coach34]

plus, they have a projected 1st rounder- which we do not

Take that budget crap and stick it up your ***

 

[Thick]

By the way, lose that avatar it way too much information.

 

[MSUCosmo]

It's all moot now anyway but I don't get your point(s) in this thread.

It's not a talent issue, but we'd suck next year merely because we had a new coach. With Stansbury we'd be fine. Ultimately we only lost Jarvis off a powerhouse NIT team so we can replace him with Sidney who's gonna miss 80% of the pre-conference season, where Stansbury schedules weak and underperforms. And then you say "we will see how good of a recruiter he is the next few years...". Hasn't he built his reputation and 12 years as MSU head man off being "The Recruiter"?

The fact is we aren't going to be any good next year because the Recruiter has slipped. And wishing and hoping for future success off a hyped class 1 or 2 years down the road that he's not even guaranteed to land is getting pretty desperate.

 

[tenureplan]

But to try to clarify my position...I think Stansbury is a good recruiter and I like the talent that we still have on this team. However, i do not think it is as much talent as the people that say "he squandered all of this talent" insist. I think we will be competetive for an NCAA invite next year (a lock if it goes to 96). I truly think he is a better X and O's guy than he is given credit for here. We got jobbed vs KY twice. I don't think he gameplans well for teams that he has not seen much of. I don't think we could get a better proven coach. I think we could get a young up-and-comer who would either do alot less than Stans has/would do with the current talent level (more probable) or possibly do about the same to a little better (less likely). Given the second scenario, I think that coach would leave for greener pastures at the first opportunity. We don't have an AD yet, so our pool of likely coaches would have continued to shrink and I think we would have ended up settling. With Byrne gone, I'm not optimistic that our hiring practices wouldn't return to the old M-State method of making the safe hire as well.

 

[mstateglfr]

plus, they have a projected 1st rounder- which we do not

Take that budget crap and stick it up your ***

While i agree with you that budjet size doesnt mean success or failure, hanging your hat on Butler is weak. Its weak because there areabout 4 programs that i can think of who are that small and have sustained success.

Clearly the exception to the rule.

 

[paindonthurt_]

We should have made it this year no questions asked.

And it has everything to do with what you have talked about in this thread.