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That's true, but their track record is no where near as reliable as the Bible's. That's 100% accuracy... Historically documented and provable!
Fulfilled Prophecy: Evidence for the Reliability of the Bible
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Unique among all books ever written, the Bible accurately foretells specific events-in detail-many years, sometimes centuries, before they occur.
Approximately 2,500 prophecies appear in the pages of the Bible, about 2,000 of which already have been fulfilled to the letter—no errors.
(The remaining 500 or so reach into the future and may be seen unfolding as days go by.) Since the probability for any one of these prophecies having been fulfilled by chance averages less than one in ten (figured very conservatively) and since the prophecies are for the most part independent of one another, the odds for all these prophecies having been fulfilled by chance without error is less than one in 102000 (that is 1 with 2,000 zeros written after it)!
Read about them in the link provided.
Ok. My point is we all don't agree on what some of those prophecies mean specifically and that's ok.
Well Sir for me, I think it's quite clear and remarkably unambiguous which city Almighty God is coming back to in order to set up his Kingdom on Earth! It's not an "either-or-scenario", there aren't multiple choices, it's not even open to speculation!
The Bible is quite specific and quite clear not only what city that is, but where it is.
Jerusalem is an ancient city of the Middle East that since 1967 has been wholly under the rule of the State of Israel.
What Does The Bible Say About Jerusalem In The Last Days
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Jerusalem is often depicted as a central location in Biblical prophecy, especially concerning the last days. When we look at the prophecies, it becomes clear that this city is not just a geographical location; it symbolizes God’s promise and faithfulness to His people. Many verses illuminate God’s purpose for Jerusalem, reminding us that it plays a crucial role in His divine plan. We are called to reflect on these prophecies as we consider the greater narrative of God’s relationship with humanity and His intentions for the world.
The Prophecies are explained in the link. Again, it's not a matter of "interpretation" or "speculation". These are specific and detailed promises that will be fulfilled exactly as Almighty God explains.
The Role of Jerusalem in God’s Plan
As we ponder the role Jerusalem plays in God’s divine blueprint, we realize that it represents much more than an ancient city. It is a symbol of His covenant with His people, a place of grace and mercy, as well as a city that has endured countless events throughout history. Jerusalem’s role in God’s plan for redemption reminds us that we are part of this magnificent story. We hold a shared heritage as we look toward the culmination of all things, rejoicing in the knowledge that our faith is embedded in history, and Jerusalem remains a focal point of hope as we anticipate God’s promises yet to be fulfilled.
That is as detailed a warning the remaining Islamic radicals ever will get! If they go dark by next Tuesday, they'll have only themselves to blame.
Well Sir for me, I think it's quite clear and remarkably unambiguous which city Almighty God is coming back to in order to set up his Kingdom on Earth!
The Bible is quite specific and quite clear not only what city that is, but where it is.
Jerusalem is an ancient city of the Middle East that since 1967 has been wholly under the rule of the State of Israel.
What Does The Bible Say About Jerusalem In The Last Days
excerpt
Jerusalem is often depicted as a central location in Biblical prophecy, especially concerning the last days. When we look at the prophecies, it becomes clear that this city is not just a geographical location; it symbolizes God’s promise and faithfulness to His people. Many verses illuminate God’s purpose for Jerusalem, reminding us that it plays a crucial role in His divine plan. We are called to reflect on these prophecies as we consider the greater narrative of God’s relationship with humanity and His intentions for the world.
The Prophecies are explained in the link. Again, it's not a matter of "interpretation" or "speculation". These are specific and detailed promises that will be fulfilled exactly as Almighty God explains.
The Role of Jerusalem in God’s Plan
As we ponder the role Jerusalem plays in God’s divine blueprint, we realize that it represents much more than an ancient city. It is a symbol of His covenant with His people, a place of grace and mercy, as well as a city that has endured countless events throughout history. Jerusalem’s role in God’s plan for redemption reminds us that we are part of this magnificent story. We hold a shared heritage as we look toward the culmination of all things, rejoicing in the knowledge that our faith is embedded in history, and Jerusalem remains a focal point of hope as we anticipate God’s promises yet to be fulfilled.
"It's not an "either-or-scenario", there aren't multiple choices, it's not even open to speculation!"
Yes some things in the bible are quite clear and others have created multiple denominations through out Christianity due to different interpretations.
Well as I said, not everything is true, and Almighty God is not the author of confusion! The Bible amazingly uses Scripture to interpret Scripture...in other words Almighty God never speaks to cause confusion, nor are his words ever confusing. Almighty God NEVER contradicts himself in Scripture!
Numbers 23:19
God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it?Hebrews 6:18
So that by two unchangeable things, in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have fled for refuge might have strong encouragement to hold fast to the hope set before us.You are quite correct, that through the centuries humans have interpreted his Word differently, to emphasize certain things over others and to quite frankly misinterpret his pronouncements. That is sad, and specifically forbidden in the Bible!
"Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you"- Deuteronomy 4:2
*The phrase "not add or take away from the Bible" refers to the instruction found in Deuteronomy 4:2 and Revelation 22:18-19, which emphasizes the importance of preserving the integrity of God's commandments and prophecies without alteration. This means believers should adhere strictly to the teachings without modifying or omitting any part.
As I said, it is sad why we cannot accept Almighty God's spoken word as it's written to us, but man by his nature is Sinful, and part of that Sin is viewing himself as God, without needing guidance from the Law giver & Creator. That in fact was the first Sin, Man rejecting Almighty God's instruction to substitute for his own desires.
We have been afflicted with that Sin since Eden! However Almighty God is Merciful, as well as forgiving, although he never goes back on his Word! That is why Prophecy is always fulfilled exactly as Almighty God describes, and why we must always be careful never to read anything more or less into his Word that is not there! (This is where various denominations stray)
This is one reason I have such Faith in the power of the Resurrection. Through Christ, all errors are corrected. All misunderstandings are removed. All divisions are healed. Even the Jews, who to this day STILL do not accept Christ as their promised "Messiah" will one day see him as all believers do...the Son of Man Promised to God's chosen people to forgive the Sins of the World.
That day too shall come, I hope we are all rejoicing together in it!
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As a firm believer in God the father, God the son and God the holy spirit...I firmly believe that as long as I obey the ten commandments as best as possible and ask forgiveness and mean it God will lead me to heaven.... I firmly can't stand religion itself. No matter how a person translates the prophecies ( that will come true) they will be on the winning side .
I listen to different preacher's talk about if we go to heaven at death or if there is a great judgement day ....does it really matter?
I'm talking about the book of Revelations as some can't even agree on which John wrote it. You may feel like you completely understand it and that's fine. The facts are there's a lot of disagreement on the interpretations of what it all really means. To me that's ok as it's not the most important thing to learn from reading the Bible.
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Only if you have and maintain a personal relationship with Christ, ask for and accept his Salvation for your Sins. Nothing else (Religion) matters.
My friend the only folks "confused" over Revelation are either folks who don't believe it, or don't accept it! As I said, Almighty God who is the author of every spoken word in the Bible, is not the one who's confused.
What's written in Revelation comes from the Law giver and Creator himself. What folks who "interpret" it or or "misunderstand" it or even "reject" it, is between them and Almighty God. Nothing revealed to us is untrue, or won't happen exactly as Almighty God said it will! (in fact, a good portion of it already has! Look at Jerusalem)
How can you personally be sure you're "interpreting" Almighty God's Holy Word correctly?
By following Christ, asking for his forgiveness and accepting his free gift of Salvation!
You simply cannot go wrong using that because no matter which "interpretation" or even "Religion" you accept, without your personal relationship with Christ... nothing else matters.
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There's plenty of difference of opinions on the book of Revelations. I'm not part of the "my church is the only one that gets it right crowd" so instead of attempting to debate with me you can go Google all the different interpretations that exist by a multitude of scholars our there.
You can start with this as that's where the difference of opinions on it start.
The Book of Revelation is primarily symbolic, metaphorical, and comparative, rather than a direct, literal account of future events.
Here is how others interpret some of it.
There is a strong consensus among modern biblical scholars that the Book of Revelation was written to address the immediate political and spiritual threats of the 1st-century Roman Empire. It is interpreted as a symbolic, apocalyptic critique of Rome's persecution of Christians, not primarily as a future timeline of the end times.
Key Scholarly Interpretations:
- Symbolic Language: "Babylon" is recognized as a typical, coded pseudonym for Rome.
- The "Beast": The Beast from the Sea is generally interpreted to represent the Roman Empire or emperors, specifically Nero or Domitian.
- 666: The number of the beast is widely seen as a Hebrew transliteration for "Nero Caesar" (נרון קסר).
- Purpose: The book provided hope and encouraged resistance against Emperor worship (specifically around 95 AD), warning Christians against assimilating into Roman imperial culture.
There have been four different views regarding the book of Revelation: the idealist, preterist, historicist, and futurist view.
Four different views listed above people can research them.
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Tell me my friend, what are you and I allegedly "debating" when it comes to the promise of Salvation through the shed Blood of Christ for forgiveness of Sin? As I said there is no "confusion" over what Almighty God has revealed to us as the only way to eternal Life. You either believe that, or you don't. You're off into all of these "interpretations" of Revelation and that's no doubt all very interesting... however I stand by two things I've said to you that are quite frankly unarguable.
1) Almighty God IS NOT the author of all the confusion of which you speak.
2) None of what you're offering here matters against eternal Salvation through the shed Blood of Christ, without which THERE IS NO SALVATION from everything else Almighty God promises in his Holy Word...weather you "interpret" it correctly or not!
With that being said, I have nothing more to say to you about this. I sincerely hope you settle any questions remaining in your mind about Almighty God's spoken word through Christ! He is truly your only Salvation OK? God Bless my friend.
Here's a 5th way of how people view it. Probably important for you to study it all because once you research it you will come to the conclusion that the book has been debated for a long time. Since I'm no Moses my advice is concentrate on the things we can control and know it's all going to be ok in the end. That I'm confident about.
The eclectic view of Revelation is increasingly considered by many scholars to be the most accurate because it combines the strengths of the four primary interpretative approaches—Preterism, Futurism, Historicism, and Idealism—to avoid the one-sidedness of any single view. By recognizing that Revelation functions as both a historical message to its original audience, a symbolic depiction of ongoing spiritual warfare, and a prophecy of the final end-times, the eclectic approach offers a more comprehensive framework. Preterism, Futurism, Historicism, and Idealism—to avoid the one-sidedness of any single view. By recognizing that Revelation functions as both a historical message to its original audience, a symbolic depiction of ongoing spiritual warfare, and a prophecy of the final end-times, the eclectic approach offers a more comprehensive framework.
Jesus stated in Matthew 24:36 and Mark 13:32 that no one knows the day or hour of his return, not even the angels or himself, but only the Father. This means the return is unexpected and unpredictable, often likened to a "thief in the night". Therefore, believers are called to constant readiness rather than setting dates.
We need to make the Boy Scouts Great Again.
The Boy Scouts motto is "Be Prepared". Used since 1907, this motto means Scouts are always in a state of readiness—in mind and body—to perform their duty, face challenges, and help others. It emphasizes preparing for emergencies and developing skills to become productive, helpful citizens
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Defeating evil is what it's all about. It's a damned dirty shame evil in our own country is fighting against us as well.
I wouldn't go as far to say all Democrat Voters are evil but I do question their mental health at this point if they keep voting for the same abuse. Other than Fetterman who I don't agree with on many things he at least doesn't seem to hate our Country and uses some common sense at times. They are going to run him out of their cult.
@Gunny46 I like you and for the most part I respect most what you post on here, but you're waaaaaaaay out over your skis on this! Nothing personal, but you kind of remind me of folks our Pastor has often described (and the Bible does too) of "ever learning, yet never coming to the Truth".
*(The phrase "ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth" found in 2 Timothy 3:7, highlights the idea that some people may seek knowledge but fail to grasp the ultimate truth)
Everything you posted here is of course interesting & no doubt open for debate and quite naturally also for interpretation. Just as you've said, nothing wrong with that all.
Consider this though. The Bible, being the authentic transmission of Almighty God's Holy spoken word, is so simple even a child can understand it. Yet it is so Theologically deep...even trained Biblical scholars can drown in it! Isn't that amazing?
Almighty God created the Heavens and the Earth....nothing to "interpret" about that is there? It's either true or not correct? It's the first definitive statement in the Bible itself..."in the beginning". This same passage goes on to explain that he Created everything else that ever was or is. Think about that. He alone designed and built a simple atom..so tiny the human eye cannot see it...yet so complex, no human can ever recreate it! The same with our DNA, or the vastness of the Universe in the Stars, and all the Galaxies....for as far as we can ever see or know or understand, he Created it all! Who is like our Creator?
Likewise, his Holy Spoken Word while simple in its message, is often difficult for our finite minds to fully grasp. We're talking the difference between an infinite being, and limited finite creatures! So my Pastor says, if you can easily understand just the simplest concepts of the Bible, the rest then becomes pretty simple to also at least accept, even those parts you don't fully understand! That's called "Faith".
However, once you start dangerously "nit picking" or "dissecting" certain passages in Scripture you either don't easily accept or can understand, or even worse you start rejecting those parts that literally don't make any sense to you...it becomes pretty easy then to start rejecting more and more of it!
You remind of that. You're so caught up parsing Revelational Eschatology, you're meanwhile missing the essential and easiest part of Revelation to accept! That is the return of Christ to reclaim Almighty God's Creation from Sin. That is Revelation's ultimate promise.
No matter what version of Revelation you want to dissect, the entire story is easy to accept centered on that seminal concept (Christ's return to Earth). However once you start questioning which parts of the Revelation don't add up, or which version should be rejected, or what parts were misinterpreted along chronological or Eschatological measurements, it then becomes easy to start rejecting more and more of it!
Matter of fact, that's the problem a lot of folks have with the Resurrection itself. It is an incredible story easily told...that being a man who was Crucified on a Cross, actually raised up from the dead after 3 days and came back alive? Really? That's simple enough to hear, but it's a whole Hell of a lot harder to accept much less understand! Correct?
It's honestly too much for most folks...so they naturally start "nit picking" which parts of that story can't be true: (for instance was it 3 days, or two days? Was he really killed or did he just pass out? Was he really "God" in the flesh? etc) The point is, my Pastor says some folks will find any point in that simple story they don't understand to pick apart, then pretty soon they naturally start dismissing most other parts of it! I don't think he's in error about that.
Matter of fact whole Religions have been organized around just one part of Scripture someone somewhere either didn't accept or understand, or "misinterpreted" and then found it easy to reject other parts of it or most of the rest of Almighty God's Holy Word. (Islam does that with the Resurrection...they totally reject it) Sadly, then they miss the entire promise of Almighty God's Revelation. With all due respect, you're doing the same thing here in my opinion... quibbling over various "views" of Revelation, yet missing it's essential message.
So let me just point blank ask you (not for an answer to me per se, but to search your own Soul) Do you know Jesus? Have you admitted you're a Sinner? Have you asked for his forgiveness? Did you, or do you accept it? Is he the most important thing in your Life? If you've answered "yes" to all of those, then the rest of what you may still find confusing or perhaps still don't quite understand written in the Bible will be easier to accept at least.
If you haven't done that, or sadly if you reject it, then it's easy for me at least to understand why you have so much trouble accepting almost anything else written or explained in Almighty God's spoken Word. Just as my Pastor explained.
Full quote of 2 Timothy 3
1But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.
6They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over gullible women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, 7always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth. 8Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these teachers oppose the truth. They are men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected. 9But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone.
I said to you I would have nothing more to say to you about this, and I sincerely apologize for not sticking to that. However with you on this, I feel it in my Spirit the need to say to you what I'm now saying. Gunny, I encourage you to know Christ, accept his offer of Salvation, and make him the most important thing in your Life! If you don't or cannot, all these other questions you have or struggle with will never be settled, and you'll end up rejecting most of everything else Almighty God has to say because you don't understand just the simplest and easiest thing first: That Christ died for you to forgive you of your Sin if you will simply repent and ask for his forgiveness!
That's it my friend! All that other stuff about Revelation, the "eclectic view" vs the "comparative view" vs the "metaphorical view" vs the "symbolic view"...all of it.... either becomes easier to accept or easier to reject depending on how you settle on Christ. OK my friend?
So once again, God Bless you, may you find Peace and Salvation through him!
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I'm actually defending Christians as there has been several denominations over the last 2,026 years with different views on the interpretations of the book of Revelations. I sometimes even have to defend them against other Christians. Sometimes against people simply stirring the pot.
I don't need to rely on you or your pastor as I can read the Bible for myself and learn. In multiple languages. I encourage others to do the same.
The primary Bible verse warning against false prophets is Matthew 7:15, which says, "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves" (NKJV). They are identified by their fruits (actions/teachings) and often appear harmless but have deceptive intentions.
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Key Bible Verses Regarding False Prophets:
- Matthew 7:15-20 (NKJV): "You will know them by their fruits... A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit".
- 1 John 4:1 (ESV): "Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world".
- Matthew 24:24 (NKJV): "For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect".
- Jeremiah 23:16 (NIV): "Do not listen to what the prophets are prophesying to you; they fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD".
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- Appearance: They come in "sheep's clothing" (appearing innocent or godly).
- Nature: Inwardly they are "ravenous wolves".
- Method: They often use deception, false signs, and wonders.
- Outcome: True followers of Christ are instructed to test their teachings and avoid them.
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Here's the rest of the chapter. It's been 78 years since 1948. I'm educated on why you think it's soon and where the Rapture Theory came from. I don't totally agree it's going to happen like it's taught in some churches. I'm also not so arrogant to condemn those who do. It's not important in the big picture. As long as we don't start talking like James Talarico we are going to be ok either way.
As I have said previously the Communist and Islamic Jihadist are familiar with this doctrine and they hope you don't go vote and just hand our Country over to them. As in you have no reason to fight for it because you are going to be Raptured any minute now. Me I'm going to fight for our Country until GOD tells me face to face my job is done.
Bible Gateway passage: 2 Timothy 3 - King James Version
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that...
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