Where’s all the Epstein list folks?

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HRMSU

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I enjoy this mythical world where there was a list and Trump was on it and the previous administration didn't use that against him.

I mean we're talking about the same guy who was convicted of "felonies" and had two assassination attempts against his life. Why go to all that trouble if you could just publish the list and and say, "See, there he is!" That just doesn't pass the smell test in any way.

ETA: If you're down to run a shadow government under the name of a dementia patient, then you're probably down to publish a list that sinks the career of your political opponent.
^ this
As much as Trump is absolutely hated by virtually everyone in the party that was in power somebody would have leaked it if he was on it. If it still exists or ever existed it will be leaked by somebody. Y'all act like we have government employees that don't have their own personal agendas these days ****
 
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The thing that floors me is people who now have spun it into “they have the list and are using it for political blackmail.” So what you are telling me is you have indisputable evidence that people raped kids and instead of bringing them to justice you are letting them go free for political gain. If that were true, which it’s not, it would be a level of despicable just below the actual rape.
I don't think there is a collection of indisputable evidence of child rape but do think there would be significant circumstantial evidence that is embarrassing at minimum and completely ruining at worst. Trump would definitely use that to his advantage. He's a purely transactional human - I'm not sure he has a limit to what he would pocket for current or future political or financial gain.
 

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^ this
As much as Trump is absolutely hated by virtually everyone in the party that was in power somebody would have leaked it if he was on it. If it still exists or ever existed it will be leaked by somebody. Y'all act like we have government employees that don't have their own personal agendas these days ****
Trump's presence on "the list" was leaked by a top administration official last month and everyone who didn't want to face the fact just ignored it.
 
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Trump's presence on "the list" was leaked by a top administration official last month and everyone who didn't want to face the fact just ignored it.
Hmmm....I could be wrong but seems like there would be more traction if that was real. The amount of hate and vitriol for this guy by a particular party is off the charts.....simply unprecedented in my lifetime so I doubt the usual suspects wouldn't be screaming and pounding the table for investigations....and I know both parties have those grandstanders.
 

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Trump's presence on "the list" was leaked by a top administration official last month and everyone who didn't want to face the fact just ignored it.
Hell, Epstein is on tape saying he was Trump's closest friend for a decade and dished all sorts of dirt on Don that would have been a 24/7 sh!tcycle of nonstop media coverage had it been any other politician. With Trump, it's "yeah that tracks, he's a sleazeball" and most everyone moves on. Teflon Don is the best earned nickname of all time. It's honestly impressive.
 

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What you are witnessing is a masterclass in keeping your name front of mind and expanding your political reach further than anyone before. Better than the Kardashians, better than anyone. Something planned every single week. And no one can stop talking about Trump. Every damn week. Doesn't matter if it's positive or negative. No one does it better than his team.

And what is the payoff and benefit to Trump for doing this? More than you realize.
 
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I could believe that Biden prevented the release of the list to cover for Bill Clinton or some of his old Senate buddies.

I can't believe that Trump would care about covering for anyone other than himself or maybe his sons.

So just looking at it objectively, the either the list does not exist (but then why did Administration officials claim to have it a few months ago), or it does exist, and like Elon told us last month, Trump is on it. It certainly aligns with his general character.
So you’re saying Trump was on the list and the Biden administration had the opportunity to end his political career once and for all with damning evidence to convict him of felonies, rape, conspiracy, and whatever else they could pile on and couldn’t simply redact the info damaging to THEIR allies, and……

the entire Democratic Party just sat on it?
 

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So you’re saying Trump was on the list and the Biden administration had the opportunity to end his political career once and for all with damning evidence to convict him of felonies, rape, conspiracy, and whatever else they could pile on and couldn’t simply redact the info damaging to THEIR allies, and……

the entire Democratic Party just sat on it?
Why would it end his political career to be on the list? You think people who've stood by Trump for the last decade (including that time he lost a presidential election and spent months trying to overturn the will of the American people, culminating in sending a mob to murder Congress and abolish the federal government) would care if he was on some "list" ? Trump has raped or assaulted dozens of women in his lifetime (even was found to have done so by a civil court), and nobody cares. Of course he's going to be on a list of shady sexual activity with a bunch of his close friends on both sides of the aisle. It would be completely out of character if he weren't.

You had Elon Musk, who was a high advisor in the administration and would have seen the list if it exists, explicitly say Trump was on the list last month and nobody cared.
 

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IF Trump was on the list you dang well know that the Biden and Harris henchmen (Garland and Comey) would have leaked it last year during the election. I'm sure there's a lot of famous people on there but I doubt DJT is one of them.
 
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So you’re saying Trump was on the list and the Biden administration had the opportunity to end his political career once and for all with damning evidence to convict him of felonies, rape, conspiracy, and whatever else they could pile on and couldn’t simply redact the info damaging to THEIR allies, and……

the entire Democratic Party just sat on it?
I’m not sure a list ever existed… but if it did, I 100% believe that both parties likely had a vested interest in making sure it never saw the light of day.
 

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Trumps on the list or he would have already sued Musk for saying it publicly.
He’s using it just like Epstein did. Trump is a scum bag of the highest order.
No matter how much magats like to absolve him of his sleaziness it doesn’t change the fact he’s a sleaze
 
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There's basically 3 possibilities:

1. There never was an Epstein list, it was always a hoax. Bondi, Patel, and Musk all lied when they said they had it and would release it soon.

2. The list is real, and they changed their mind about releasing once they saw Trump was on it.

3. They changed their mind about releasing it for some other reason, but Trump was not on it. They continue not to release it, even though it would clear his name.

It could definitely be #1, but #3 doesn't really align with anyone's incentives.
 

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Trumps on the list or he would have already sued Musk for saying it publicly.
He’s using it just like Epstein did. Trump is a scum bag of the highest order.
No matter how much magats like to absolve him of his sleaziness it doesn’t change the fact he’s a sleaze
Nobody has said he's the second coming of Mother Theresa. Yeah, he's a douchebag but he's the douchebag America needed at this time and it's not even debatable.
 
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IF Trump was on the list you dang well know that the Biden and Harris henchmen (Garland and Comey) would have leaked it last year during the election. I'm sure there's a lot of famous people on there but I doubt DJT is one of them.
Garland is a bad example for the point you're trying to make. He was the most useless and disappointing cabinet official in our lifetimes, obsessed with being respected and #bipartisan, completely failing at both.
 

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he’s a perv and probably a pedophile but people memory hole all that cause he don’t like them brown folks neither
 

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A blue Q thread. This is fun!
How is this a blue Q thread? Like what is the theory that only the left holds in this?

From what I can tell, both sides are suggesting the list might exist or might never exist. And both sides are suggesting the list might incriminate people they like and dislike.

Is this really what you think the left's version of Q is?
 
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If there is a list, there is a woman sitting in Federal prison for the next 17 years that could probably clear this up. Maybe some enterprising journalist could have a good ol' Barbara Walter's style one on one and get some answers.

If Trump is on the list, I would think he would know that and not let the Attorney General and Director of the FBI, who he both appointed, make public statements about it as they have. Instead we would be getting the usual "I can't comment on an ongoing investigation ".
 

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he’s a perv and probably a pedophile but people memory hole all that cause he don’t like them brown folks neither
Blow it out your ***. If Trump was implicated in any fashion that info would have been released years ago; anyone who thinks otherwise is a damn moron. The intelligence community worked overtime creating the Russia Collusion hoax and you think they wouldn't release info on Epstein? Not to mention Trump haters within the gov't just like the one who released his tax returns which showed, shock, he paid the taxes he owed.
 
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