Where are the midgets??

[Jgbishop]

This is the first time I've gotten to watch us yet this year. Somebody made a comment a few weeks ago that we look bigger this year and we certainly do. Are they Balis made?**

 

[engie]

Feel like there is a fahr coinz in here somewhere...

Been recruiting differently since the Hump/Collins class. Just had the ball change a year too early and we got caught with our pants down both on the hill and at the plate. Much different team now though...

 

[Jgbishop]

No adidas batz?? FAHR COHENZ!!*

 

[57stratdawg]

Yeah. In some ways this is year 2 of a rebuilding project.

 

[KurtRambis4]

We've been

trying to tell y'all that the ball change SEVERELY impacted the '14 and '15 teams.

 

[rugbdawg]

The midgets are on Oregon's team.

 

[mcdawg22]

Gridley is out there, he's just batting .571 this weekend.

 

[Bulldogg31]

trying to tell y'all that the ball change SEVERELY impacted the '14 and '15 teams.

Did the ball change only affect State?

I don't disagree that the new ball had a huge impact on Cohen's small-ball lineup, but he was rightfully being held accountable by fans who were disappointed in the 14 and 15 results.

He got as much notice about the ball change as every other coach out there unless he missed an email or something**

I'm very happy to see he appears to have gotten it fixed and this team is a LOT more fun to watch than the last few.

Hail State

 

[dawgstudent]

Cohen admitted he strictly recruited for small ball where speed was his primary concern - not size.

 

[missouridawg]

He also made multiple requests to delay implementation of the new ball so he had time to fix the problem. NCAA said no.

 

[coach66]

Yea, I made a post after watching practice a few weeks ago that there was a

Midget shortage. Nice to see what is starting to look like MSU baseball return. This team has a chance to be decent, love Mangum's intensity as a freshman, he is going to be a player.

 

[8dog]

New ball came into play in 15. Eliminated the most effective pitcher in school history.

 

[patdog]

But, other than a couple of players, we were't particularly fast either. Fact is, the last 2 years are the result of Cohen bringing in a bunch of under-performers and no leaders. That hurt us a lot more than the change in the baseball did. It's good to see a lot of those guys gone for this year.

 

[engie]

Did the ball change only affect State?

I don't disagree that the new ball had a huge impact on Cohen's small-ball lineup, but he was rightfully being held accountable by fans who were disappointed in the 14 and 15 results.

He got as much notice about the ball change as every other coach out there unless he missed an email or something**

I'm very happy to see he appears to have gotten it fixed and this team is a LOT more fun to watch than the last few.

Hail State

^ didn't enjoy Omaha in 2013.

Us being so far down the rabbit hole was what made us so damn effective in Hoover and Omaha during the dead bat/ball era...

No better example than the sec tourney 2012 -- to playing at FSU in regionals. I didn't love the overall approach either -- but it was effective in our yard and both of the postseason locations.

 

[KurtRambis4]

I am not

sure why I'm even entertaining this, bcause you don't even know what players are on the roster, and nobody is saying we didn't suck those years, but you have to use some context.

As DS and others stated, Cohen had solely built his team around small-ball, which fit the old ball fine. He made these statements BEFOREHAND, so you cannot say "well he was just using excuses after the ball was changed." The ball was essentially changed overnight, with no time for us to change our recruiting.

This wasn't just an offensive deal either, it was geared towards our pitching too. Just look what happened to Ross.

Now, you can be simple-minded and think Cohenz sucks and it was the bats, or you can look at all the evidence and draw a logical conclusion.

This his is essentially our first full year of reacting to th changes, and just look at the difference.

Again, I aknowledge we sucked last year.

 

[Bulldogg31]

sure why I'm even entertaining this, bcause you don't even know what players are on the roster, and nobody is saying we didn't suck those years, but you have to use some context.

As DS and others stated, Cohen had solely built his team around small-ball, which fit the old ball fine. He made these statements BEFOREHAND, so you cannot say "well he was just using excuses after the ball was changed." The ball was essentially changed overnight, with no time for us to change our recruiting.

This wasn't just an offensive deal either, it was geared towards our pitching too. Just look what happened to Ross.

Now, you can be simple-minded and think Cohenz sucks and it was the bats, or you can look at all the evidence and draw a logical conclusion.

This his is essentially our first full year of reacting to th changes, and just look at the difference.

Again, I aknowledge we sucked last year.

I understand you've got me lumped in with the anti-Cohen Sky-is-Falling idiots on this board, which is fine, but I'm not sure why.

I did hate the Adidas bats, but they did indeed suck. That is why they are gone this year. Given a choice, zero players elected to keep using them.

I haven't been a fan of Cohen's style the past few years. I hated the small-ball tactics, even when the college game somewhat dictated you play that way. Several teams still used power pitching and power hitting effectively during those seasons. Cohen's style was boring to watch in my opinion, and we were losing, making it even harder to watch.

I've always said I didn't want Cohen fired, but if we made a change I'd be fine with it. I'm really not invested in him in any way, but if he made the necessary changes and won, great. If not, next man up.

I'm still learning who the new guys on the roster are because they are new. I like them. It's a good solid lineup and a good team. We have guys who can drive the ball in the gaps and occasionally put one over the wall. I like that.

We have over 20 guys who can throw in the 90's. I like that. We have a handful of closers with big-time power pitches and nasty breaking balls. I like that too.

I'm a fan of State baseball, not a huge Cohen guy, but I like winning. If he wins, I'm all in.