Where does Mullen go?

[11thEagleFan]

So, as an outsider, I find this whole situation very interesting. Over the past couple years, anytime I heard State fans complain about Mullen, I wrote it off as ungrateful bitching and unrealistic expectations. After all, a 10 win season followed by a 9 win season is damn good, especially in the SEC West. But after watching every State game this year, it appears as though the fans want him gone, and frankly, as if he doesn't want to be there anymore.

My question is, where is there for him to go? His stock was highest at the end of the 2014 season. He's not a hot commodity anymore. There aren't many fan bases that are going to be excited about a Dan Mullen hire, and I can't see him coaching a G5 team. The number of Power 5 schools I could see hiring him is slim. Would he really take a pay cut and go somewhere like Purdue, Kansas, Northwestern, Iowa State, etc.? It's like a guy that's tired of dating his "solid 8" girlfriend and is willing to date a 4 or 5. Just a weird, uncomfortable situation.

 

[Bulldogg31]

Where does he go? Recruiting.

He's going to have to replace a few coaches in the offseason as well.

 

[11thEagleFan]

Yeah that's my take as well. I think he stays for at least one more year and tries to turn it around.

 

[Bulldogg31]

He's absolutely here next year unless he leaves on his own accord.

Look, nobody's happy with how this year has gone. It started with a terrible second half against South Alabama and it has snowballed. But the fact remains that Mullen has done more for this football program than anyone in the modern age. Anyone who denies that is incorrect.

The same is true for those who complained about Cohen after we finished dead last in the SEC In 2015, which was two years after our highest-ever finish. I was one of those and I was wrong. He didn't need to be fired but needed to change. To his credit, he did and he gave us our first SEC championship in any sport in forever. Now the man's being talked about for the AD job. Pretty big turnaround.

Mullen won't be fired but he'd better change and quickly. Also, his new agent needs to do a better job controlling his PR in the offseason. If he explores other options that's fine, but good grief keep it quiet.

 

[Shmuley]

His buyout has to move down to make him a halfway attractive lateral move candidate. As ****** as he recruits, he desperately needs to get out of the sec.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

ESPN. Lee Corso is retiring, and Dan's fitting himself to wear mascots' hats.

 

[8dog]

I dont think the buyout if he leaves is nearly what the buyout is if he gets fired

And frankly i would t be surprised if we negotiated it down if the opportunity arose

 

[Bulldogg31]

His buyout has to move down to make him a halfway attractive lateral move candidate. As ****** as he recruits, he desperately needs to get out of the sec.

You're right about the buyout, plus right now he's already the 14th highest-paid coach in the country.

Also, people say he's a ****** recruiter, but be honest, it's not easy to recruit to Starkville. Only MSU alumni try to dispute that. We know it's a great place but to an outsider Starkville's not a great town. It's getting better but it's not great.

That said, Mullen recruits at a higher level "rankings-wise" than anyone we've had. Put him at LSU and he'd recruit top-10 classes. Same at a USC, or Texas, or anywhere that big-time recruits already want to go.

Come play at LSU and learn from the coach who taught Tebow, Alex Smith and Dak...not a tough sell.

 

[skydawg1]

He would be a great fit at LSU.

 

[josebrown]

Honestly, I don't give a 17, as long as he goes.

 

[Digging dog]

3 wins = lateral move.

 

[EngDawg]

ESPN. Lee Corso is retiring, and Dan's fitting himself to wear mascots' hats.

That will be Lester.

 

[fishwater99]

He is not going anywhere. We won't fire him and nobody else will hire him.
He is not going to quit, he will keep making 4+ million a year until we fire him.

 

[Bulldogg31]

He is not going anywhere. We won't fire him and nobody else will hire him.
He is not going to quit, he will keep making 4+ million a year until we fire him.

Agreed and would add, "or until he turns it around." Maybe Cohen turned me into a believer.

 

[patdog]

Hard to see him going anywhere at this point. Nobody's going to pay him anywhere near what he makes now. And we're not going to pay the buyout to fire him. I think 2017 is going to be make or break for Mullen, one way or the other.

 

[Requiem For A Dawg]

Also, people say he's a ****** recruiter, but be honest, it's not easy to recruit to Starkville. Only MSU alumni try to dispute that. We know it's a great place but to an outsider Starkville's not a great town.

How come people use this is as an excuse for Mullen? Doesn't seem to bother baseball or basketball recruits.

Howland and Cohen kill it in recruiting.

 

[tatedog]

This is probably the single most overused excuse for bad recruiting. If the location of a college mattered so damn much then Vanderbilt would be an SEC power and Auburn would be Vanderbilt.

eta: And oh yeah , Dan, if it takes a Heisman caliber qb 180k to fall in love with Starkville, give him the 17ing money next time.

 

[Croom's knee socks]

How come people use this is as an excuse for Mullen? Doesn't seem to bother baseball or basketball recruits.

Howland and Cohen kill it in recruiting.

Exactly! If we keep Mullen around another year we deserve everything we get. Our online talent and defensive back talent are already worse than croom's last year. Yea lets give him another year to completely screw things up**

 

[Palos verdes]

This is probably the single most overused excuse for bad recruiting. If the location of a college mattered so damn much then Vanderbilt would be an SEC power and Auburn would be Vanderbilt.

eta: And oh yeah , Dan, if it takes a Heisman caliber qb 180k to fall in love with Starkville, give him the 17ing money next time.

This is one of the single most accurate posts I've ever seen on this board.

 

[Shamoan]

Might be headed to Houston.

 

[Croom's knee socks]

Might be headed to Houston.

I'll haul his **** tonight!! And give him a glowing reference if needed

 

[Bulldogg31]

So you guys think Mississippi State can be a top 10 recruiter?

Because Mullen's already signed classes in the Top 20.

You're thinking we can hire someone to outrecruit Bama, LSU, Georgia, Florida, USC, Texas, Tennessee, Auburn, Florida State, Clemson, Ohio State, and Michigan?

Any idea who that might be? We should hire him.

 

[Croom's knee socks]

So you guys think Mississippi State can be a top 10 recruiter?

Because Mullen's already signed classes in the Top 20.

You're thinking we can hire someone to outrecruit Bama, LSU, Georgia, Florida, USC, Texas, Tennessee, Auburn, Florida State, Clemson, Ohio State, and Michigan?

Any idea who that might be? We should hire him.

Recruiting is the least of my worries right now. Give a **** is the quality I'm looking for. If you still support this crap then you can get in the damn uhaul too and I'll drop you off in Houston with Dan

 

[Bulldogg31]

Recruiting is the least of my worries right now. Give a **** is the quality I'm looking for. If you still support this crap then you can get in the damn uhaul too and I'll drop you off in Houston with Dan

ok kid

 

[Croom's knee socks]

We've actually recruited ok in most positions except the O line and defensive back field. Dan wants out and the **** show has only just begun my friend

 

[Bulldogg31]

We've actually recruited ok in most positions except the O line and defensive back field. Dan wants out and the **** show has only just begun my friend

Ok

 

[Croom's knee socks]

You really brought some facts to back up your stance Im impressed

 

[Bulldogg31]

You really brought some facts to back up your stance Im impressed

K

 

[Salty Sands Dawg]

Croom's you will learn over time the members of the "legion of mediocrity" will always think small and never believe we can do anything better than what we have, even when we're bottoming out. It continues to amaze me and I'm well beyond twice your age.
Relative to your U-Haul comment, let me know if you need any assistance because like you, I'm ready as well!

You really brought some facts to back up your stance Im impressed

 

[Digging dog]

Where does he go? Recruiting.

He's going to have to replace a few coaches in the offseason as well.

Agree. We are witnessing the result of a bad 2013 class. One of Mullen's big misses.

 

[fishwater99]

So you guys think Mississippi State can be a top 10 recruiter?

Because Mullen's already signed classes in the Top 20.

You're thinking we can hire someone to outrecruit Bama, LSU, Georgia, Florida, USC, Texas, Tennessee, Auburn, Florida State, Clemson, Ohio State, and Michigan?

Any idea who that might be? We should hire him.

No, just recruit Top 20 a OL and CB's.

 

[Shmuley]

Hell, I'll set the bar THIS low for his pathetic recruiting ***: JUST 17n FINISH AHEAD OF ARKANSAS MORE THAN ONCE EVERY FOUR YEARS.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

Where does he go? Recruiting.

He's going to have to replace a few coaches in the offseason as well.

This will help him keep his job and appease those in charge.

 

[Croom's knee socks]

Agree. We are witnessing the result of a bad 2013 class. One of Mullen's big misses.

While it's true that the 2013 class was a stinker, that does not excuse the lack of give a crap. We had less talent than this in 09 but we atleast went all out on the field. With this schedule there was no reason not to win 6 games.

 

[Croom's knee socks]

Croom's you will learn over time the members of the "legion of mediocrity" will always think small and never believe we can do anything better than what we have, even when we're bottoming out. It continues to amaze me and I'm well beyond twice your age.
Relative to your U-Haul comment, let me know if you need any assistance because like you, I'm ready as well!

Yeah I think I'm done talking football. I'm officially moving into basketball mode

 

[notoriousD_O_G]

Croom's you will learn over time the members of the "legion of mediocrity" will always think small and never believe we can do anything better than what we have, even when we're bottoming out. It continues to amaze me and I'm well beyond twice your age.
Relative to your U-Haul comment, let me know if you need any assistance because like you, I'm ready as well!

I really don't understand who this "legion of mediocrity" you are crusading against is. Most people seem pretty upset with the way things are.

EDIT: http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/showthread.php?115860-Dear-Legion-of-Mediocrity

In 2013 you thought the same thing. Thank god we didn't fire him then. I agree Mullen has probably run his course here but you have been trumpeting this so long you were bound to be right one day. Congrats I know you are pleased.

 

[PonderThis1]

So, as an outsider, I find this whole situation very interesting. Over the past couple years, anytime I heard State fans complain about Mullen, I wrote it off as ungrateful bitching and unrealistic expectations. After all, a 10 win season followed by a 9 win season is damn good, especially in the SEC West. But after watching every State game this year, it appears as though the fans want him gone, and frankly, as if he doesn't want to be there anymore.

My question is, where is there for him to go? His stock was highest at the end of the 2014 season. He's not a hot commodity anymore. There aren't many fan bases that are going to be excited about a Dan Mullen hire, and I can't see him coaching a G5 team. The number of Power 5 schools I could see hiring him is slim. Would he really take a pay cut and go somewhere like Purdue, Kansas, Northwestern, Iowa State, etc.? It's like a guy that's tired of dating his "solid 8" girlfriend and is willing to date a 4 or 5. Just a weird, uncomfortable situation.

My vote is Boston College. They could pay him $3 mill and I'm sure we would lower the buyout.

 

[RocketDawg]

My vote is Boston College. They could pay him $3 mill and I'm sure we would lower the buyout.

That would still be a big salary hit. Cost of living in Boston is quite high ... probably about like $2M in Mississippi, meaning a 50%+ reduction in buying power.