Where is the Most Improvement Needed?

Dawgs'n'Grizz

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I know there are several factors contributing to our struggles this season, but where do you guys think we need to improve the most in order to compete next year? I'm saying a lack of a legitimate two-way threat in the post has severely hurt us this year.
 

diggidydog

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i would like to see our offense get it inside the three point line at least once before the shot clock hits 10 seconds on most of our possessions. Rarely happened tonight.
 

Shamoan

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Take your pick. We do just about everything poorly in stretches. Basketball is more theatre than sport and watching it is like watching wrestling where we are the heel just about every game.
 

Leeshouldveflanked

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We just don't have much down low.... Herard, is only in year 4 of playing basketball period....Ado will help us more than anything .... We are a team of 1's and 3's... Need more 4's and 5's
 

57stratdawg

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What happen to Holman? He was nearly averaging 11ppg halfway through the season. Hasn't reached double digits since the A&M game.
 

FlotownDawg

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Nobody knows how to throw a good post entry pass. Our bigs can't catch it anyway. Herard has no offensive game at all other than to pump fake it 5 times and hope he gets fouled. Holman is soft. Peters plays out of control too often and settles for threes way too much. Q tries to do too much and has become a turnover machine. He is also going through a major shooting slump and can't hit a 3. Keglar has gotten much better recently but that's the only bright spot I see.
 

bruiser.sixpack

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Only every thing that has to do with the game of basketball. Major suckage at every phase of the game. These guys need to go home to mama and have her kick their weak *** into shape. They suck dinkey balls.

But.... I think they are real close to becoming a solid team.
 

bruiser.sixpack

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Sarcasm sucks when the team sucks too. Ole miss will crack open this teams narrow necks next week and **** down their throats in our own gym. Call a spade a spade and a bunch of pussies, pussies. In the words of the Jap on Major League, " they have no marbles!" Howland's hapless hounddogs!
 

mstateglfr

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Defense needs to improve.

This team has shown they can succeed when they play hard D without fouling as they thrive in transition.
 

ShrubDog

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What happen to Holman? He was nearly averaging 11ppg halfway through the season. Hasn't reached double digits since the A&M game.

He is catching the ball further from the paint and when in the paint he gets bodied up, throws him off.

1. Defense
2. Rebounding
3. Aggressiveness
4. Toughness
5. Tenacity
 

Shamoan

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i agree our defense sucks, but how do you improve it in today's ultra sensitive refing climate? there are instances where the whistle randomly blows and we get called with a foul. i rewind it and watch it 5 times and still see nothing. for me, its got to be on the offensive and rebounding end. refs gonna screw things up on the defensive end no matter what unfortunately, which means we have to make it count on the offensive end.

i honestly have no idea of what constitutes a foul anymore because on any play, they could call one....kinda like holding in football.
 

fishwater99

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Dribble Drive, get into the paint to shoot or pass. It's like we settle for the 3 pointer every possession. Live and Die by the 3 Ball.
We have to aggressively drive to the basket more.
We need to play better defense and stop making dumb fouls. Get after those loose balls, they never seem to bounce our way.
I still don't understand why we don't play zone defense anymore, not all the time but wouldn't hurt to mix it up some.
 

Wizard.sixpack

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I know there are several factors contributing to our struggles this season, but where do you guys think we need to improve the most in order to compete next year? I'm saying a lack of a legitimate two-way threat in the post has severely hurt us this year.
Maturity. When this happens we'll be just fine. I hate to beat a dead horse but we are so young. Not Kentucky-talent young, a step below that, so there are obvious growing pains. The game experience that these young bullies are getting now will pay HUGE dividends in the next few years. Everyone seems to forget the consistency in Howland's 3rd year jump at EVERY school he has coached.
 

ShrubDog

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Exactly, not playing a zone at times has me wondering what the 17 is going on...
 

mstateglfr

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i agree our defense sucks, but how do you improve it in today's ultra sensitive refing climate? there are instances where the whistle randomly blows and we get called with a foul. i rewind it and watch it 5 times and still see nothing. for me, its got to be on the offensive and rebounding end. refs gonna screw things up on the defensive end no matter what unfortunately, which means we have to make it count on the offensive end.

i honestly have no idea of what constitutes a foul anymore because on any play, they could call one....kinda like holding in football.

Fully agree. I struggle to understand some fouls too. The consistency doesnt seem to be there.
I dont subscribe to the consipiracy that MSU is getting screwed or whatever. I see the difficulty in consistency in Big12 games, other SEC games, etc so its not MSU specific.

What would be really nice is if off ball fouls which dont affect play werent called as often as they are. Calling Herard for an offensive foul because he pushed too much while trying to establish position in the lane when the ball has been swung to the opposite side of the court is pretty pointless. His play didnt gain an advantage. When no advantage is gained...do all those fouls need to be called?
I cant figure out what is a moving screen and not a moving screen when 90% are moving but only 10% are called. Seriously, that **** is insane. Its especially tough since a lot of screens are now slipped and therefore the screener is always moving.


if 1/3 of our fouls are stupid and on the players(slapping as someone drives the lane, slapping after missing a close shot, etc), 1/3 of our fouls are because we are in terrible defensive position, and 1/3 of our fouls are because the players understandably cant figure out what is and isnt a foul in any given moment.


Where we clearly could improve is our pick and roll defense. Good lord our bigs cant hedge a screen to save their lives. And the weakside of our defense rarely slides over to fill the space/defend the free man soon enough. They slide over too late and its either a basket or a slapping foul on us since everyone is slow to recover and get in the correct position for help.
 
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Yes at least 1/3 of our fouls are head scratching calls by the ref (like the foul on Stapleton that was an and 1. He never touched him at all). We can't control those but we can do something about the other 2/3.

When was the last time we drew a charge? I can't remember us drawing one in weeks. That's another product of being in poor defensive position.
 

Hoover Dawg

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Yep. I was thinking probably year 4 for Howland because he had to deal with the seniors and Rick Ray's signees last year, but he's obviously accelerated that. No reason to think we aren't a tournament caliber team next year with the new recruits and Ado coming in.
 

coach66

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Honest answer, we need to improve it almost every facet of the game and we need

to add quality depth if we are going to compete for SEC titles and NCAA slots, we have a long way to go.

Post Play
Protecting the ball
Defending
Rebounding
Power Forward Needed
 
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