He only gets 8 mins, it's like he misses a few shots and he gets yanked, now he will be scared to shoot again. Stans has to play him more and find a way to rest SWAT. Osby and Turner need to play more for Kodi, so Kodi can spell SWAT some along with a few minutes from Reik and Lewis.
Where was Osby on Saturday?
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He only gets 8 mins, it's like he misses a few shots and he gets yanked, now he will be scared to shoot again. Stans has to play him more and find a way to rest SWAT. Osby and Turner need to play more for Kodi, so Kodi can spell SWAT some along with a few minutes from Reik and Lewis.
Osby and Kodi both have no basketball sense. I think Osby might shoot better but he is doing little if anything to warrant playing time. Their poor play is what is killing us and if they could give a consistent 20 minutes each we would be at least 6-2 now in the league. I look for Phil to start playing 25 to 30 minutes a game because at least he gives great effort on both ends of the floor.
I have more basketball knowledge than you think... What games have you been watching? I agree Turner plays great, but he is not tall enough to guard a real 4 or 5. Osby and Kodi, just need to let someone else bring the ball up the floor like Bost, Turner or Randy. No need to hate on Romero...
But at some point the COACH is responsible for how his players play. We don't ever get better.
JV's offense hasn't improved very much under Stans. Same for our TOs and our offense. At some point it falls on the COACHES shoulders. When is that point?
Ala Croom.
JV's offense hasn't improved very much under Stans. Same for our TOs and our offense. At some point it falls on the COACHES shoulders. When is that point?
Ala Croom.
He has more potential than what has been displayed.
My point is most players don't seem to improve under Stans. True or false?
My point is most players don't seem to improve under Stans. True or false?
in your constant apologetic mind for Stansbury does he become at fault? It's Stansbury's job to install an offense and put his players in position to make plays.
If people are standing around on offense- its Stansbury's fault. Because if they had somewhere to go, they would be doing it.
You want to ***** about Kodi hanging out at the 3pt line? Fine. Where is our offensive set that calls for Kodi and Jarvis to work the blocks and the elbows? Thats Stansbury's job and we dont have that right now
You can ***** about Kodi and Osby, but Bost and Stewart have been making comments about Stansbury. And there is a reason they are doing it. Hopefully you will get a clue one day
If people are standing around on offense- its Stansbury's fault. Because if they had somewhere to go, they would be doing it.
You want to ***** about Kodi hanging out at the 3pt line? Fine. Where is our offensive set that calls for Kodi and Jarvis to work the blocks and the elbows? Thats Stansbury's job and we dont have that right now
You can ***** about Kodi and Osby, but Bost and Stewart have been making comments about Stansbury. And there is a reason they are doing it. Hopefully you will get a clue one day
I'm as disappointed as anyone at how this season has played out so far, but this statement is completely untrue whether you are talking about player improvements or team improvements.
This team isn't doing well, and I think a lot of it is due to both not having backups for certain positions, as well as players being frustrated. This year is atypical of a Stansbury coached team. Even so, I'm not giving up hope that we can still salvage something.
Or is Stans fault when Osby drives out of control; to the hoop running over anybody in his way? I think you have to ask players eventually what are you doing and I know for a fact our coaches do that contantly. You tend to blame every loss on the coaching and if we win it is all players. You can't have it both ways. At some point the players have to take some blame. I simply know that the offense we run is not as bad as you describe it and it was good enough to win the SEC tourney and win all its SEC road games one year. That is not easy to do and while it is obvious you live each day for us to lose another, I think players have to realize if they don't value each possesion and work to get a good shot, then it is on them. Simply put, yopu and Fish can spout off all you want to about motion offense, or whatever chickenshit offense you may get away with in the academy league, it still comes down to execution and making shots. We have players who can't score from 3 feet and in my mind they ought to know how to do that by now. I still say we can win the SEC west and then the tourney is a crap shoot, but one thing we all can count on, you will be one miserable 17ing loser if we do.
Stans has lost control of this team once again. I give Stans all the credit in the world when he does a good job coaching see the UGA game this year and the SEC tourney last year, I was wooly as hell, then Wash exposed SWAT and our coach.
It always comes back to the players executing, but it is the coach whohas to have the players ready to execute and an offenisve gameplan for each team we play. Stans fails to do this year after year. He needs to hire an offensive assistant or he will be done in a few years.
1.We still have no offense besides Bost driving or the dish to SAWT and the otherplayers standing around, that is not the <span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1265692660_2" style="BACKGROUND: none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%; CURSOR: hand; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none">motion offense</span>.
2. Why do we jack up the first 3 pointer we get, there is no need to shoot the first time you touch the ball with 25sec on the <span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1265692660_3">shot clock</span>.
3. SWAT needs more rest throughout the game with better substitutions, he gets too tired at the end of games. Osby and Turner need to play more at the 4 so Kodican come in for SWAT at the 5. Where are Lewis and Reik for a few minutes a game, you would think our coaches would have them ready to play.
4. Osby and Turner need to get moreminutes.. Romero showed against Vandy that he can play in the SEC.
5. Neverwent to or worked at a MPSA school, 5A from the River City, Baby..
6. We need to get our athletes free on the transition offense and more "Motion" in our half-court set.
7. Free Renardo!!!!!! We need another Big Body...
8. Basketball is my sport, I want MSU and Stans to win, I just get frustrated with the lack of improvement year after year with our coach...</p>
It always comes back to the players executing, but it is the coach whohas to have the players ready to execute and an offenisve gameplan for each team we play. Stans fails to do this year after year. He needs to hire an offensive assistant or he will be done in a few years.
1.We still have no offense besides Bost driving or the dish to SAWT and the otherplayers standing around, that is not the <span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1265692660_2" style="BACKGROUND: none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%; CURSOR: hand; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none">motion offense</span>.
2. Why do we jack up the first 3 pointer we get, there is no need to shoot the first time you touch the ball with 25sec on the <span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1265692660_3">shot clock</span>.
3. SWAT needs more rest throughout the game with better substitutions, he gets too tired at the end of games. Osby and Turner need to play more at the 4 so Kodican come in for SWAT at the 5. Where are Lewis and Reik for a few minutes a game, you would think our coaches would have them ready to play.
4. Osby and Turner need to get moreminutes.. Romero showed against Vandy that he can play in the SEC.
5. Neverwent to or worked at a MPSA school, 5A from the River City, Baby..
6. We need to get our athletes free on the transition offense and more "Motion" in our half-court set.
7. Free Renardo!!!!!! We need another Big Body...
8. Basketball is my sport, I want MSU and Stans to win, I just get frustrated with the lack of improvement year after year with our coach...</p>
And you tend to blame the players for every loss and praise the coaching staff after every win. In other words, you don't know any more than the idiots your trying to bust on.
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And is the most concerning thing to me with the basketball program. Because this is really the first time that I can remember under Stansbury where you have players calling him out and things like that. Yes, we have had problems with players before under Stansbury, but he has always handled it, whether that be kicking Walter Sharpe off of the team or handling things internally with Charles Rhodes, when something that threatened the team chemistry, it was always handled and then the team turned around.
Stansbury may very well do that again this year as far as handling problems with the players, but it sure feels like a ticking time bomb right now.
And again, I don't understand why he keeps Kodi Augustus around on the team. His attitude is toxic. All he does is whine, and is WAY worse than any of the other guys that Stans has kicked off of the team in years past. I think it's starting to trickle down to the other players and I think it is killing our team chemistry. And even more mind boggling, it's not like we don't have another guy that could play the four in Osby, and while I know that playing Osby more wouldn't necessarily get us in the tournament or anything like that, it probably would help our overall attitude.
I'm not John Wooden, nor will I ever profess to be or anything like that. But it is very obvious to me that Stansbury better take control of his team- right now. Or he could get himself in big trouble.
It's one thing to pull the trigger on a couple of coaches who aren't coming close to meeting reasonable expectations. But even as frustrating as this year has been, we still have a decent shot at making the NCAA tournament. And making the tournament is a reasonable minimum expectation for our basketball program.
Stans and the team. when pondering the situation we are in right now this is the only huge difference that i can see in this situation versus previous years. like you said, we have always had problems but he has calmed them down before it gets out of hand. you are right, this time we look like a ticking time bomb and i actually think that if Renardo is cleared that the bomb will go off. i don't see the egos on the team liking the loss of minutes.
How do you know Stans has lost control of this team? What valid source other than internet message boards can verify that? I am not naive and I also know that Kodi was sat down early in the year to get the point across. It seemed to help for a while but a basketball novice can see that he and Osby don't have much basketball sense. They are athletic as hell but if you think our coaching staff is not aware of the problems, then you are either so biased or blind that it won't matter. All I know is Phil has not been scoring either and that compounds the problems. We may break out of this at any moment and particularly if the light bulb goes off for several players but one thing I can count on, coach 34 will still be trying to run off a good coach and be an armchair coach, which by the way is all he is because he has never coached on collegiate level. I will take Fish at his words, he says he really only wants us to win, and, Blueballs, who cares, he is sitting in his trailer in Ky wanting the BIg Blue to succeed and I know for a fact Coach and Blue seldom ever go to campus, so I doubt anything they state is first hand knowledge.I am currently watching Bruce Pearl get the everloving **** beat out of his team and we actually had a shot at Vandy, but heck, Pearl is a better coach according to this group than what we have and we kicked his *** in the SEC tourney last year and we will kick his *** again this year. Why not get a life and find something positive to talk about sometime or is that too difficult to do? I have suggested this to all of you in the past and I will do it again, call Stansbury, Kirby, Cunningham, or Grant and ask them to have lunch with you one day and just ask them why we do certain things. You might just get a new perspective but I know that would make you miserable so I don't expect it to ever happen.
So if it isnt the coach's job to improve players or improve the team...what exactly is the coach there for? Recruiting and setting the schedule? Cuz thats pretty much all thats left if the coach isnt responsible for improving players or the team.bullysleftnut said:
the players are starting to call out his decisions to the media on a regular basis now. That shouldnt be happening
And Bruce Pearl has won 10 SEC games every year he has been at Tennessee. You saying anything about him shows how much of a dumbass you really are.
And Bruce Pearl has won 10 SEC games every year he has been at Tennessee. You saying anything about him shows how much of a dumbass you really are.
I'm still blown away by the fact that some people think players haven't improved once they got here. I have no idea who is responsible for the improvement, but to suggest that they don't is moronic, at best.
Now that is a solution for any of you so-called experts. I also disagree with coach that all the players are calling their coach out. I saw where they called themselves out by stating"we don't have enough movement", etc. Also, Barry called out his teammates when he stated"Coach Stansbury tried to tell us Rider was not that bad and we didn't listen".I am not going to change any minds but I happen to be in a position where I can ask questions and I have always thought that information from reliable sources is a better way of getting to the bottom of things than some damn message board. Every person on this board knows that Coach34 hates Stansbury because he can't go a day without some form of ridicule. Others just chime in because for some reason they think an academy league coach is an expert. Now when we kick Pearl's *** just like we did last year in the tourney, he'll come up with some blind excuse. Hell their offense last night looked worse than anything we've ever run and it is no different with them than us, if you can't shoot, you can't win. Tenn will lose to Ky and then us in Starkville and we might even end up with a better conference record than them. Now, how about taking a day off, enjoy the day and give us one day without moaning and bitching, I know it is hard, but it does wonders for the soul.