Which conference is the toughest?
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CCL Blue.
Until a team raises their hands to join the CCL Blue conference, it's the CCL Blue.
Wassup
Until a team raises their hands to join the CCL Blue conference, it's the CCL Blue.
Wassup
I agree top to bottom toughest conference. But I think the question asked may have a different answer. To navigate to a playoff berth having only 4 Blue games and the crossovers make it easier than say maybe DVC to get a playoff berth.
Yes the DVC is now very strong especially with all the Valley teams joining them last year top to bottom.
CCL Blue then DVC then MSL West then Southwest Suburban Blue - then West Suburban Silver then ESCC then Central Suburban South
Don't agree with this list. Southwest suburban blue, ESCC, and north suburban are all much better then the msl west. If maybe even put the fox valley ahead of it.
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I'll take the NSC Lake over MSL and CSL.
Lately it's been every bit as good as the Dvc
Lately it's been every bit as good as the Dvc
Agree with this. DVC teams have a tougher overall schedule than CCL Blue teams. I actually think the DVC is too good now with the addition of the Valleys. Many good teams don't make the playoffs.
depends on who you are really. Cant be the CCL Blue because you can lose all your conference games and still qualify. I was going to say the DVC, but then I thought about it and because the most of the conference can be competitive with each other it would be possible for a bunch of teams to have losses and qualify. I think you have to look at a conference with 4 really tough teams then a drop off, then look at it from the perspective of the bottom teams.
Probably the ESCC... put some respek on it
Probably the ESCC... put some respek on it
DVC.
Last year Waubonsie Valley tied for fourth with Lake Park & Wheaton North with a 4-4 conference record. WN beat WV during the season. An easy non-conference game against Aurora East gave WV the the five wins they needed to get in the playoffs where they advanced to the final four after winning three playoff games.
WN's only non-conference game was a loss to Joliet Catholic.
LP's only non-conference game was a loss to a good South Elgin team. A game they gave away in the last three minutes after dominating the entire game. They also gave away the game they lost to WN with two mind blowing TO's in the last three minutes.
Last year Waubonsie Valley tied for fourth with Lake Park & Wheaton North with a 4-4 conference record. WN beat WV during the season. An easy non-conference game against Aurora East gave WV the the five wins they needed to get in the playoffs where they advanced to the final four after winning three playoff games.
WN's only non-conference game was a loss to Joliet Catholic.
LP's only non-conference game was a loss to a good South Elgin team. A game they gave away in the last three minutes after dominating the entire game. They also gave away the game they lost to WN with two mind blowing TO's in the last three minutes.
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This the biggest question since the multiplier and also the biggest "who cares" question.
Does it really matter?
Does it really matter?
1. DVC
2. CCL Blue
3. ESCC
4. West Suburban Silver
I think after these 4 it's MSL, South Suburban Red, Central Suburban South (in no particular order).
2. CCL Blue
3. ESCC
4. West Suburban Silver
I think after these 4 it's MSL, South Suburban Red, Central Suburban South (in no particular order).
Well when you talk about toughest overall schedule - let's take Rice for instance. They play Marist (ESCC pre-season favorite), Montini (who's pretty loaded and a perennial state champ), Crete Monee (who again will vye for their conference championship), Aurora Christian (a playoff caliber team), Joes (a gimme) Mt Carmel (enuff said), Loyola (enuff said), Provy (who has a lot back) and Rita (who still has a lot back - 2 D1 commits already I believe). So Rice has 3 8As, 3 7As a 6A and 2 5As. Marist has 1 8A, 3 7As, 3 6As and 2 5As on their schedule.
JC will be middle of the road this year. Marian Catholic better but still a stretch to make playoffs again.
Thoughts?
JC will be middle of the road this year. Marian Catholic better but still a stretch to make playoffs again.
Thoughts?
Both MC and BR might not have as good of records as last year , but both could actually be better. MC will be much bigger on O line and better in backfield and at QB.
All these CCL Blue replies are off the mark.
Look at the question posed in the original post in this thread. It isn't asking for the most competitive conference. It's asking in which conference is qualifying for the playoffs the toughest.
The CCL Green, West Suburban Gold, Mid Suburban East, and LIttle Okaw Valley Southeast, all with just one qualifier last year, would be more accurate answers.
There are 256 qualifiers each year. For the sake of discussion and ease of math, let's assume there are 512 football playing schools that would equate to a statewide playoff qualification rate of 50%. All one would have to do to fully answer the question, then, is find those conferences with less than 50% of its schools qualifying and rank them in ascending order in terms of the numbers of qualifiers.
If the CCL Blue has five schools and it routinely qualifies 4 or 5 schools each year, how tough is that?
Look at the question posed in the original post in this thread. It isn't asking for the most competitive conference. It's asking in which conference is qualifying for the playoffs the toughest.
The CCL Green, West Suburban Gold, Mid Suburban East, and LIttle Okaw Valley Southeast, all with just one qualifier last year, would be more accurate answers.
There are 256 qualifiers each year. For the sake of discussion and ease of math, let's assume there are 512 football playing schools that would equate to a statewide playoff qualification rate of 50%. All one would have to do to fully answer the question, then, is find those conferences with less than 50% of its schools qualifying and rank them in ascending order in terms of the numbers of qualifiers.
If the CCL Blue has five schools and it routinely qualifies 4 or 5 schools each year, how tough is that?
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But that wasn't the question. The question was, "Which conference is the toughest to navigate on the way to a playoff berth?"
On the way to a playoff berth.
Which is the same reason I dont consider the DVC either because you may have some historically tough opponents, but at the same time "you" are WWS, or NC, or WV, or NV etc so getting the wins is a possibility. Where as with the ESCC you have to play Naz, JCA, Marist, and MCC along with another school who may be having an "up" year and you might be St. ViatorS or Marian Catholic. Its going to be a little harder to make the playoffs.
So ESCC schools might be having an up year, but "you" as WWS, NC, WV, or NV might not have a down year?
What I am saying is that the schools in the conference are closer in capability. So, while they may have a down year they are closer to their competition than say... Marian Catholic up or down is to JCA up or down.
Since we are being so literal, how do we know he didn't mean which schools are hardest to find?
Or, maybe he meant which schools will have the worst traffic or most road construction on the way?
ESCC, It is not easy to be a mediocre team in this conference and having to play, MARIST JCA NAZ BENET ND
Meh. Unless you are Marian Catholic or Viator, it's not that difficult to rack up wins in this conference. Plenty of parity. With that, I would say Marian and Viator might have the most difficult road to the playoffs of any teams, but that's because they aren't good. Same could be said for many bottom feeders in conferences around the area.
My money is still on the DVC. West Suburban Silver second. CCL-B third.
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We cannot regularly compete with the South Suburban Allstars and a revamped LWE. Skinny jeans have doomed the program.Bones' fence around the compound, a stones throw from Ikea U.
Yeah....but Ivlow is forming an all-star coaching staff....first Darlington....now Coach Weiss.