Orgeron at LSU or Herm Edwards at Arizona State? Those two train wrecks are going to be a lot of fun to watch over the next couple of years.
Which is the biggest impending dumpster fire...
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Herm will be lucky to finish 2 seasons I believe. Don't think he will win and put that together with the downright bizarre crap he says and he won't be there long
Barely any college experience: check
Haven't coached in a decade: check
Overall losing record: check
You're absolutely right that Croom made more sense. He at least coached a decade in college, was actually coaching at the time we hired him, and was actively looking for a job. Not that any of that was a good enough reason to even interview him, but it's better than an NFL washout who's best known (by us) for giving us the term "Ralph".
Haven't coached in a decade: check
Overall losing record: check
You're absolutely right that Croom made more sense. He at least coached a decade in college, was actually coaching at the time we hired him, and was actively looking for a job. Not that any of that was a good enough reason to even interview him, but it's better than an NFL washout who's best known (by us) for giving us the term "Ralph".
I'll go Orgeron at LSU only because LSU has significantly higher expectations than AZ State. If LSU has a losing or near break even season over the next couple of years Ogre will probably be immediately ousted. AZ ST will likely give Edwards 4 years regardless unless things get totally embarrassing.
That's a weird situation, with the ASU AD having previously been Herm's agent. I wouldn't have much confidence in the school's president pulling the plug quickly knowing that he or she didn't look sideways at Herm's deal and those circumstances when it first came up.
Herm. Ogre isn't going to kill the talent situation there at least. The funniest part was the "innovative new approach" with Herm as the GM and thus keeping both of their(reputation of elite) coordinators -- and they managed to keep neither of them.
I didn't find Illinois hiring Lovie Smith as big of disaster on the front end -- and he's 5-19 and still owed an absolutely insane amount of money.
It's starting to look, to me, like the Arizona schools are the Mississippi schools with a lot more outside distractions and less locally available talent.
I didn't find Illinois hiring Lovie Smith as big of disaster on the front end -- and he's 5-19 and still owed an absolutely insane amount of money.
It's starting to look, to me, like the Arizona schools are the Mississippi schools with a lot more outside distractions and less locally available talent.
Anytime the Pack get's overly bearish on something (like at peak meltdown on the Pack late in the 2Q after a Fitz pick while were only up 7 on La Tech), usually the opposite happens.
Herm seems like he would be a flop for sure, but I may buy some Herm stock since the sentiment is so negative. I'd sell on the "deadcat bounce" though.
Herm seems like he would be a flop for sure, but I may buy some Herm stock since the sentiment is so negative. I'd sell on the "deadcat bounce" though.
Herm is out of touch with reality. His opening press conference, he berades a reporter asking him a legit question because said reporter worked for "Devil Rebellion News" or some ****.
Im paraphrasing but Herm proceeds to go into a rant " I don't know about no devil news, I'm Catholic"
"I don't do no devils"
Just right there behind him are his mascot symbles of the "Sun Devil"
On the podium he speaks from lies the largest of the Devil symbols ....and yet he throws out some ornery ********, the same ornery ******** that got him **** canned from the NFL.
https://twitter.com/kg_holler/status/937751097955045376
Complete and utter ridiculous hire.
Im paraphrasing but Herm proceeds to go into a rant " I don't know about no devil news, I'm Catholic"
"I don't do no devils"
Just right there behind him are his mascot symbles of the "Sun Devil"
On the podium he speaks from lies the largest of the Devil symbols ....and yet he throws out some ornery ********, the same ornery ******** that got him **** canned from the NFL.
https://twitter.com/kg_holler/status/937751097955045376
Complete and utter ridiculous hire.
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You are not wrong. I will point out that Herm has already proven to have a better game plan than anything Ogre has grunted.
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The “our new coach will be a hands off, GM type” seems to be the new way of saying “I’m a really bad AD that just hade a terrible hire, and this is how I’m rationalizing it.”
It’s like saying you know your coach sucks, and you don’t actually want him to be in charge of anything.
It’s like saying you know your coach sucks, and you don’t actually want him to be in charge of anything.
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call it what you like.[/QUOTE]
Ok.
Unprofessional
Uncomfortable
Uninspiring
But if you have followed that bag of gas, it's not unbelievable.
call it what you like.[/QUOTE]
Ok.
Unprofessional
Uncomfortable
Uninspiring
But if you have followed that bag of gas, it's not unbelievable.
The guy may be awful, but you are really reaching here. That was nothing more than a poor attempt at a light joke.....he definitely didn't berate anybody.
Herm Edwards is the John Gruden of College Football. Using his podium at ESPN to constantly further his image as some kind of Bear Bryant/Bo Schembekler fusion with multiple NC’s while always graduating Rhodes Scholars and Nobel Prize winners or Foriegn Policy diplomats. When you actually look at his record he didn’t achieve ****. But to listen to him...
It will be interesting at Florida for sure. I'm not ready to say that Dan will be a failure but then it all depends on what the powers that be and the fanbase consider success versus failure. He will have to be given a honeymoon of sorts but who knows how long it will last. I'd say LSU probably has the most potential to go downhill fast...things just don't seem to be on an upward trajectory under O and Alleva
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