Which one of these has hurt us the most this season?....
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Are you talking for RPI purposes? Or just "what hurts more as a fan"?
Cause I can answer one of those...
Regarding RPI, all 4 have hurt. But it all starts with scheduling OOC. That was the first mistake. I know we expected UCLA, USC, Okla. and Oregon to be better, but we knew Valley State would be horrid (currently sitting at #300 out of 300 teams according to Warren Nolen), not to mention several others (hello Alcorn St. #293, South Dakota St. #213, Mass-Lowell #189, Nicholls St. #211, Tenn. Martin #273, Memphis #212). Hell, if all of those would have been at the level of La. Monroe #146, we would have been a hell of a lot better off.
Then losing to one of the worst (Eastern Ky #215) didn't help things.
Then losing to one of the worst (Eastern Ky #215) didn't help things.
If you're just talking about RPI, then each of the losses to A&M, Oral Roberts, and EKU hurt equally badly. Same for the failing to finish the sweep of home series. Is our OOC schedule really that weak? We're still in the low teens RPI aren't we?
But if you're going to complain about something RPI related, I guess you have to complain about scheduling anybody in the high 200's RPI wise, as you can get more or less the same type gimme from a high 100's, low 200's team, without hammering the RPI as badly.
Current nonconference SOS is 179 out of 300.
So in order of what hurts the most RPI wise, it is 2, 3, 4 (and 1 doesn't really factor in that much).
Failing to complete the sweeps hurts slightly more than being swept by A&M because 2 were on the road (Vandy, LSU). I mean, theoretically, any change in a game is equal to any other change. Losing to A&M gave you -1.3 for that game, while winning would have given you +0.7 (so you technically lose -2) where as pulling out one of the road sweeps would have changed the -0.7 to a +1.3 (again, a difference of 2).
The sweep by A&M, though, counts as 3.9 losses, which really hurts.
We're ranked 3rd in the country in several polls, and every writer out there says we're a potential national seed, so none of them hurt too bad in my opinion.
But our current overall SOS is ranked 4th......is the non-conference SOS factored into the RPI formula separately?
Here's what our RPI would be based on your questions:
1) Winning both OR/EKU - #9
2) Weak OOC - (I can't replicate that)
3) Failing to Sweep - Here's what it would be if we swept any of these:
+A) Vandy - #9
+B) UGA - #9
+C) UF - #9
+D) LSU - #9
+E) Van & UGA - #8
+F) Van/UF/LSU - #8
4) Texas A&M Scenario:
+A) All three were rained out - #8
+B) We win two - #9
+C) Win win one - #9
Not sure if you're picking up on a general theme here, but there is a pretty sizable gap between
#7 Miami - .6125
#8 NCSU - .6056
#9 UCSB - .5971
Basically everything you listed has us landing somewhere in there.
No it's just a separate consideration for the committee. So they'll see RPI, SOS, NCRPI, NCSOS, Road record, wins vs RPI Top 25, etc.
Yes, remember changing the opponent doesn't matter - only location.
Here's what our numerical RPI would be under these given circumstances:
.5976 - #9 - Sweep OM
.5976 - #9 - Sweep UGA
.5976 - #9 - Win 1 against A&M
.5976 - #9 - Beat Oral Rob
.5976 - #9 - Beat EKU
Same with away games:
.5965 - # 9 - Sweep UF
.5965 - # 9 - Sweep LSU
.5965 - # 9 - Sweep Vandy
Here's what our numerical RPI would be under these given circumstances:
.5976 - #9 - Sweep OM
.5976 - #9 - Sweep UGA
.5976 - #9 - Win 1 against A&M
.5976 - #9 - Beat Oral Rob
.5976 - #9 - Beat EKU
Same with away games:
.5965 - # 9 - Sweep UF
.5965 - # 9 - Sweep LSU
.5965 - # 9 - Sweep Vandy