Whit Hughes

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Just. Won't. Go. Away.
I keep hearing his name. Why?
How ridiculously laughable. Hey i guess it's who you know not what you know right?
 

cps36

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i don't think it will because he is the best candidate. More to the point he has no experience to my knowledge in the field. AmI wrong? I would like to know how he got inserted into the conversation in the first place. I dont hate the guy, he's actually who i would vote for if we had to pick someone with no experience, but why do that?
 

patdog

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I have no problem with hiring him for an assistant AD job, but right now he's not qualified to be an AD in the SEC.
 

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this ain't MC. We'd better damn well sure not hire somebody to be an SEC AD who has NO EXPERIENCE working in athletics.
 

8dog

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Michigan hired the CEO of Domino's. Ole Miss's AD is a banker. Of course, I don't want Pete Boone as my AD.
 

paindonthurt_

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We need a guy who has some but not limited to the following characteristics:

creative - we are MSU. We need a guy who can create or build upon our brand and market it to the people. We don't sell ourselves yet.
energetic - he can be young or old.

He needs to be able to raise funds/grow profit.
He needs to be able to build on the momentum or create his own momentum.

He needs to be a CEO type with a plan for growing and expanding. I have no idea what Whit Hughes is like, but if he is a great business person who can be creative in a stiff market, then I have no problem with that (if he is the best we can find or get). I want the best person available regardless of gender, creed, race, etc.

Would you be against a Donald Trump (excluding his experience in the USFL)? A guy who is good at business can surround himself with Athletic experience.
 

cps36

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He is successful as a business man because he knows about the business he is in, which is real estate. Perfect example the USFL. He thought "oh anybody can do it!" We all see how that went. Mainly because he competed with the NFL. We are competing with Alabama, FLorida, LSU, Georgia, etc.

Yeah i think a person who has never worked in an athletic department can come in, manage a multi-million dollar budget, ensure that there are no recruiting violations, manage building projects, raise funds, raise fan attendance, put programs in a situation to prosper, plan for the future, hire and fire coaches, move us ahead of some of our SEC counterparts, AND all he has to do is "surround himself him Athletic experience."

Also, Lee Fowler is about to be fired. Let's not hire him.
 

paindonthurt_

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Donald trump has lots of businesses if i'm not mistaken. They aren't all dealing with real estate. Besides I didn't say Donald Trump. I said Donald Trump type meaning a guy who is a good business man.

<span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">Yeah i think a person who has never worked in an athletic department can
come in, manage a multi-million dollar budget, ensure that there are no
recruiting violations, manage building projects, raise funds, raise fan
attendance, put programs in a situation to prosper, plan for the
future, hire and fire coaches, move us ahead of some of our SEC
counterparts, AND all he has to do is "surround himself him Athletic
experience."</span>

I'm also confused on this. Was it sarcasm or is this your opinion?

At the AD position business sense (growing a business) is more important than athletic sense/experience. Ask LT. He wasn't forward thinking at all. He lived year by year and kept us within budget.

I personally would prefer a guy with great business skills who also happened to have Athletic experience, but if I have to settle with one or the other, i pick business over athletic any day for AD.
 

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Whit Hughes is more qualified than you obviously know. young. energetic. great connections. great resume. sound like anyone we've hired before that may be leaving today? do some research. there is a reason he is still in the picture.
 

paindonthurt_

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Like those snobby obnoxious prep bastards or not. They are generally intelligent and know people. Knowing people helps out a lot when raising funds which is a big part of the AD's job.
 

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It will help that Whit was in athletics here...he's smart....as long as he surrounds himself with the right people, he probably would be a good hire. He definitely loves MSU and that's the most important aspect of these candidates. They BETTER love this school.
 

Mr Meoff

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How old is he - 35? What if there's another candidate that's 34? Does that automatically make that guy better than Whit?

And energetic is good, but only if the energy is used wisely (see Ed Orgeron.)

I do, however, think Whit's political connections can be a factor.


My opinion - hire the guy who's ready now - Strick - and hire Whit as Associate AD and we're good to go for the next 20 years.
 

cps36

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if you have to ask if something is sarcasm is probably is.
Second,We DON'T have to pick one or the other. We can have an AD with Athletic Department experience AND Business sense. My point was General business sense is not a substitute for Specific business sense. A person who can run a restaurant might not be able to run a construction company. I feel like you think there is magical "business sense" out there that if someone has it then they will be successful.

Also it's not about Business sense vs. Athletics sense, its about ATHLETICS BUSINESS SENSE. Athletics IS a business. We don't need someone learning on the job.

And i was comparing competing with the NFL to competing with the Alabamas and the big boys of the SEC. GrantedI can't see there being a rival league to the NFL, butI also can't see Mississippi State with 13 national championships and a 100,000 seat stadium.
 

paindonthurt_

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pain's def of "business sense": forward thinking, creative, motivational, trying to grow his brand, increasing profits, etc. Many people have that "sense". They can take any product and make it better. they can take any business and make it more profitable. They can market their brand and make it more noticeable.

SECOND: Didn't I say that exact same thing? I'd rather a guy with "business sense" and athletic experience, but i'd lean on business more than athletic. Seems i remember saying that exact same thing before.

Can't see M State with 13 national titles and 100,000 capacity: Would that opinion change no matter who the athletic director was? If no, it's a moot point. If yes, lets go get that guy or the closest thing to him we can find. If 17ing bozo the clown is the BEST we can do, lets get that big footed SOB.