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AzzurriDawg4 said:
Now that would have been a Mississippi-relevant animal....err insect.

You could throw a bunch of boll weevil infested cotton out on the field and have your "workers" pick it up.
I agree with DesotoCountyDawg.Where have you been? Boll Weevil is gone.
 

57stratdawg

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have a song that says something about "Mississippi Boll weavell aint got no natural home.."
 

Hidog78

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I really hope that Hotty and Toddy make it to the end.

Hotty and Toddy gosh allmighty what the hell are you doing?
We are bent over 17ing each other and we are happy as can be.
With glidder face and tight acess
Where OLE MISS Masscots by damn!!!!!!!!!!

Oh please let it be so
 

dawgstudent

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It's from olemiss.edu, Got it off the university's website.

http://www.olemiss.edu/conf/welcometable/whyOM.html

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[quote]The state of Mississippi opened its flagship university in 1848. The first chancellor of the university, F.A.P. Barnard strove to create a one of the most advanced educational institutions of the time but his efforts were interrupted by the Civil War. As sectional controversy increased, Mississippi joined the fray, following South Carolina into secession in 1861. In February, 1861, Governor John J. Pettus commissioned the University Greys. Almost all of the university's students enlisted in the new regiment and when only four students reported to campus in the fall of 1861, the university closed, while most of its students went off to fight for the cause of the Confederacy. Ultimately, the University Grays suffered a one hundred percent casualty rate at Gettysburg. General Robert E. Lee's admonishments after the Civil War to furl the battle flag seemed to hold sway for a time. The more important business of recovering from the devastation reeked by the war was tantamount. But tied closely to that recovery was the treatment of newly-freed slaves. The hopes for equality promised during Reconstruction were quickly dashed. Mississippi led in the creation of a Jim Crow state, legislating segregation with its post-Reconstruction constitution in 1890. All Southern states soon followed its example. It was not a completely dismal time--in 1882, the university admitted women to the college, ahead of most flagship universities in the South. In the early decades of the twentieth century, a cadre of New South boosters lobbied for reconciliation with the North in an effort to propel economic advancement in the still-crippled region. It has been noted that one of the best creations of the New South was the Old South, a suggestion that reflects those New South boosters' attempts to mitigate their supplication of the assistance of the North by hearkening back to a nostalgic, if illusory, "moonlight and magnolia" time under slavery. During this time period, the university became known as "Ole Miss," a moniker used by slaves to describe the wife of the plantation owner. In 1948, on the heels of his own presidential initiative on race, President Harry Truman desegregated the armed forces. In addition, he followed the recommendation of his civil rights commission and added a civil rights plank to the Democratic Platform for that year. In response to this addition, the entire delegation from Mississippi and half of the delegation from Alabama walked out of the Democratic Convention. They formed a new party, the Dixiecrats, and ran Strom Thurmond from South Carolina as their presidential candidate. In the wake of this rebellion against recognition of civil rights as a priority, students at the university rallied behind their state's politicians, unfurling the Confederate battle flag put away long before. Thus a new "tradition" began. And yet, cooler heads seemed to prevail for a time. With the defeat of the Dixiecrats, Mississippi elected a moderate governor, J.P. Coleman. In 1953, a survey conducted by the student newspaper found that a majority of students attending the university would welcome a black student. But after allowing the FBI to investigate a lynching in the state, Coleman was defeated in the next gubernatorial election by Ross Barnett. On May 17, 1954, the Supreme Court abolished segregated education and massive resistance to integration began in the South. In 1962, after months of negotiation, James Meredith was admitted to the university, the first black student. Many from outside the state came to campus to repel what they saw as an attack upon their way of life, calling the occasion the last battle of the Civil War. They were joined by students and Mississippians as well. The Kennedy administration called in federal troops to quell the uprising. Caught in the middle of the Cuban Missile Crisis, President Kennedy was informed that missiles in Cuba had a range of 4500 miles. He replied, "Can they hit Oxford, Mississippi?" His retort attests to serious nature of the resistance to integration at the university. That resistance to Meredith's arrival on campus caused a night of rioting on September 30, 1962, with two dead and many wounded. Troops remained on campus for the next year protecting Meredith, who graduated the following May. In civil rights historiography, the riot at the University stands as a signal event. The University of Mississippi has changed greatly over the last 35 years. Today about 12% of the student body is black, but bullet holes still riddle the Lyceum columns in the Circle and their existence is tangible evidence of the lengths some have been willing to go to prevent racial justice. James Meredith, in a recent column in the Daily Mississippian, called "Mississippi" the most powerful word in the English language. From slavery to Civil War battles, to entrenched segregation and the violent lynchings of Emmett Till, James Chaney, Michael Schwerner, and Andrew Goodman, among many thousands of others, Mississippi holds a prominent place in the memory of those concerned with human rights. And yet, throughout its history, the state has witnessed many whites and blacks who havechallenged white supremacy. Too often, their story remains untold. Mississippi is the bogeyman of racism for the United States and has become the repository of all that is impossible to improve. The record of those who have challenged those stereotypes is clear. The participation in a national conversation committed to challenging racial oppression by Mississippians attests to the continued desire and willingness to change. Therefore, there is perhaps no more appropriate place to hold[/quote] a discussion on race relations than the flagship university of the state of Mississippi.
 

MedDawg

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I've used the plantation owner's wife references from "The University of Mississippi: A Sesquicentennial History" before, but you have one from OM's own official website. Never seen that before.
 

Chickamauga

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I think most people assume that "Ole Miss" is just shorthand for "Mississippi." The unpleasant connotations are much less obvious.
 

RebelBruiser

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Exactly. When you say "Ole Miss" to the average person, the last thing they think is "plantation owner's wife". When you say "Rebels", "Dixie", and some of the other things, that's a different story.

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the term "Ole Miss" is the most likely thing to stick around long term. I could see us eventually changing the name "Rebels", but ideally changing the mascot would help re-brand that term in a non-Confederate way. It's all about how you define it or how the general public sees it.
 

karlchilders.sixpack

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so, in their final five, they select two that don't actually exist.

H T is justa saying,& no such thing as a land shark.

Very typical.
 

MadDawg.sixpack

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there was a complete chronology of how the name came to be on the ole miss website. It described how the namecame from an on-campus contest by students to come up with the new "nickname". According to that article, Ole Miss barely beat out the #2 choice among students: Ole Massa. This article, which was archived from the Daily Mississippian is nowhere to be found now.

Good find here, though, DS.</p>
 

HighPointDawg

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is pulling for the LandShark because he claims that Ole Miss "invented" this term/word. <div>
</div><div>He didn'tappreciateknowing that the Miami Dolphins DL used this term back in the 80's and when I told him my HS cleats (that I use for yard work) are Nike "landsharks".. Also I think there is an Arena Football team called the Landsharks too...</div><div>
</div><div>Not that this matters, I mean we didn't create the Bulldog breed either but just is funny how people come up with **** and then decide to preach it everybody.</div>
 

FlabLoser

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MadDawg said:
there was a complete chronology of how the name came to be on the ole miss website. It described how the namecame from an on-campus contest by students to come up with the new "nickname". According to that article, Ole Miss barely beat out the #2 choice among students: Ole Massa. This article, which was archived from the Daily Mississippian is nowhere to be found now.

Good find here, though, DS.</p>
And before being The Rebels they were The Flood. They should have stayed that way.
 

FlabLoser

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Its been made clear that "rebels" isn't going to go away and that you will still be "The Ole Miss Rebels" regardless of what on-the-field mascot is going to be out there. "Rebels" is going to get a lot more air play and media exposure than any sideline mascot.

Take the WWL's page for your school for example. http://espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=145 They're still going to call you "Mississippi Rebels" (kudos to the WWL for recognizing your school's real name). And your logo is still going to be that script Ole Miss. That webpage is going to be unchanged the day your school trots out Hotty & Toddy, a bear, or something else.

As long as your school is widely known as the "Ole Miss Rebels", the stereotypes will remain.

Heck, Col Reb was axed years ago and that didn't improve anything, right? Neither will trotting out some other animal under the banner "Ole Miss Rebels".
 

GroveHard

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The nickname was adopted <span style="font-weight: bold;">BECAUSE</span> it was the nickname for a plantation mistress. Take your time.
 

MedDawg

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Ole Miss' OWN OFFICIAL WEBSITE associates together theUniversity's nickname "Ole Miss" and theterm "Ole Miss" as used by slaves. Dawgstudent proved that with a link/reference.

Can you evenfind any other historic use of the term "Ole Miss"? You canSAY it's from "Old Mississippi", but do you have even one reference? Clark Griswold doesn't count.
 

GroveHard

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