Who do you follow and believe during this crisis?

LineSkiCat14

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Incredible that this has to be said then reiterated in 2020.

Why should we blindly trust a scientist when they prove themselves wrong every day? I really can't stand this "Can you believe people think they're smarter than scientists?" take. Such a simplified argument. We can't question them? We can't say "Hey dude, you've been wrong like 87 times, why should we believe you now"? We can't also agree with them (for sake of argument), but also say, we need to put food on the table and we'll take our risks?

No one thinks they know more than a scientist in their given field.
 

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Why should we blindly trust a scientist when they prove themselves wrong every day?
Stop exaggerating to try to make your tired point. It’s not every day. Just stop. The word NOVEL is in the name of the virus. Novel means “new”, as in “wasn’t here before”. You can’t just expect the scientific community to magically come up with a cure and have all the answers in a matter of 3-4 months. You learn and adjust. That’s what science is about.
It’s also not “a” scientist.
 
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Why should we blindly trust a scientist when they prove themselves wrong every day? I really can't stand this "Can you believe people think they're smarter than scientists?" take. Such a simplified argument. We can't question them? We can't say "Hey dude, you've been wrong like 87 times, why should we believe you now"? We can't also agree with them (for sake of argument), but also say, we need to put food on the table and we'll take our risks?

No one thinks they know more than a scientist in their given field.

right? If the scientists said you have to be stripped naked and examined by brownshirts that come to your house before you're allowed to leave every day is that something you're gonna go along with. If they try to take you from your home is that something you're gonna go along with. Well **** no. Let's start with fauci the guy has done nothing but lie he's a rat and a disgrace he should be exiled. There's a scientist for you

as to the original premise I don't believe the virus is a crisis. The crisis is the so called cure. I trust my own instincts and common sense above all and never the mainstream media
 
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LineSkiCat14

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Stop exaggerating to try to make your tired point. It’s not every day. Just stop. The word NOVEL is in the name of the virus. Novel means “new”, as in “wasn’t here before”. You can’t just expect the scientific community to magically come up with a cure and have all the answers in a matter of 3-4 months. You learn and adjust. That’s what science is about.
It’s also not “a” scientist.

I never asked any of that.

My point is that a Scientist isn't an economist. And they can't predict the future any more than you or I can. A lot of these NON SCIENCE BELIEVERS OMGFG.. aren't non-science believers, actually. They just think we can reopen the economy, TO PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE, while still maintaining social distancing and other preventative and protective measures.
 

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I never asked any of that.

My point is that a Scientist isn't an economist. And they can't predict the future any more than you or I can. A lot of these NON SCIENCE BELIEVERS OMGFG.. aren't non-science believers, actually. They just think we can reopen the economy, TO PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE, while still maintaining social distancing and other preventative and protective measures.
You quite literally asked why we should trust a scientist when they prove themselves wrong. Don’t backtrack. I would love to hear who you might deem more qualified.
 

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Why should we blindly trust a scientist when they prove themselves wrong every day? I really can't stand this "Can you believe people think they're smarter than scientists?" take. Such a simplified argument. We can't question them? We can't say "Hey dude, you've been wrong like 87 times, why should we believe you now"? We can't also agree with them (for sake of argument), but also say, we need to put food on the table and we'll take our risks?

No one thinks they know more than a scientist in their given field.
Why? To keep the death toll and the number of days in lockdown to a minimum.

A pandemic has been predicted for years, a team was assembled and a plan submitted. The results of the federal government ignoring intelligence and scientists, are in. Nobody likes the results. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
 

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The multiple doctors I work with plus, and as you said, myself, because I'm a respiratory therapist. Scientists as well. Def not politicians.
The scientists’ track record sucks. I believe in people with common sense and the courage to act on the facts. It’s a little terrifying seeing how the “sheeple” have behaved during this sad time. Time for rational people- not scare-mongoring know-nothings and demagogues - to take the reins.
 

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You quite literally asked why we should trust a scientist when they prove themselves wrong. Don’t backtrack. I would love to hear who you might deem more qualified.

I'm not expecting them to know everything about the virus lol. That's exactly what my point is. They can't know everything. Things change. But it's why a lot of their models continue to get debunked all the time.

So why should we trust what they said about Covid back in March? Should we trust what they say about it now? Maybe, Maybe not.

But me even saying that? I guess I'm one of them non-sciencing believing hill billys.
 
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I’d believe science but we don’t have it yet. If we knew the real number infected it could change everything. What if the death rate is on par with flu? It very well might be. I don’t ever watch cnn, fox or any others. All political
Let’s say the death rate is the same. When’s the last time the seasonal flu accounted for nearly 90,000 deaths? Hell just since the beginning of April we’ve had just about 84K deaths. Even if the death rate is the same, it’s far worse than the flu because it spreads much more easily and rapidly and the whole lack of any type of vaccination. At least the flu has a vaccination that is sometimes beneficial in preventing and proven medication that is much more readily available for treatment.
 
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How is it that after all we’ve learned over the last 4 months, we still have people changing the subject by talking about risk factors, infection rates and death rates?
People dont want to admit to themselves that theyve been duped.

When it began, I thought it was complete nonsense. When sports shutdown, then I completely flipped and was really worried. Those guys dont just let billions of dollars burn arbitrarily.

But as more time has passed, its obvious that for most of us, its not a big deal. I think it is obviously more contagious than other viruses we have encountered. Yes, that is concerning. But for a very, very, very, very small percent of people is it proven to be fatal. And as crass as it is, Im sorry, but that minute percentage doesnt outweight ehat we are doing to impoverish so so many unnecessarily.

Go get tested if you want. If you want to wear a mask, feel free. If youre perfectly healthy those measures are completely arbitrary. I wish people would get that through their thick damn heads. MOST PEOPLE do not have it. Glaring at them in stores because they are healthy and therefore chose not to pointlessly wear a mask is assinine.

If youre sick, keep your *** at home. If youre old and vulnerable. Keep your *** at home. If you are in contact with people who are high risk, take common sense precautions.
The remaining 99% of us are ready to get back to life.

I havent stopped working as an essential Fed employee. The only thing thats changed for me is how incredibly inconvenient shopping is with so many people grouped to a few open stores while others are arbitrarily closed. Its complete idiocy.
 
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People dont want to admit to themselves that theyve been duped.

When it began, I thought it was complete nonsense. When sports shutdown, then I completely flipped and was really worried. Those guys dont just let billions of dollars burn arbitrarily.

But as more time has passed, its obvious that for most of us, its not a big deal. I think it is obviously more contagious than other viruses we have encountered. Yes, that is concerning. But for a very, very, very, very small percent of people is it proven to be fatal. And as crass as it is, Im sorry, but that minute percentage doesnt outweight ehat we are doing to impoverish so so many unnecessarily.

Go get tested if you want. If you want to wear a mask, feel free. If youre perfectly healthy those measures are completely arbitrary. I wish people would get that through their thick damn heads. MOST PEOPLE do not have it. Glaring at them in stores because they are healthy and therefore chose not to pointlessly wear a mask is assinine.

If youre sick, keep your *** at home. If youre old and vulnerable. Keep your *** at home. If you are in contact with people who are high risk, take common sense precautions.
The remaining 99% of us are ready to get back to life.

I havent stopped working as an essential Fed employee. The only thing thats changed for me is how incredibly inconvenient shopping is with so many people grouped to a few open stores while others are arbitrarily closed. Its complete idiocy.

the sports leagues were duped too by the doomsayers. Remember the leagues wanted their money especially for March madness but the pressure from the left wing sports media to shut down was very intense.

There was no reason to cancel a freakin thing. It's gonna go down as the biggest scandal in modern world history just watch. Scorched earth mission
 
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I believe in the scientists. Yes tthey have guesses but they know something about what they guess.
Others sepculate and they have no basis for their speculations.
most bitches are from people not getting happy right now.
I believe in my own thoughts on preservation. I would bet, I will be here when this is over. Really, hope you are too!
Who do you put your life trust to?

Like another poster said, myself. I rely on common sense, using critical thinking, and not being a "useful idiot". It's freeing, yet frustrating because there are very few of us around. It's good to see that there are others that are thinking the same way.
 

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Got to be the dumbest post I have ever read on any message board. You made the **** up about Miami, nobody ever said they would be underwater.
I will go with science over Dr. Trump aka self proclaimed genius every time.
Believe in him at your own peril.
I never said I believe Trump on everything. I only said I don’t believe all the made up science on this virus and climate change. It is all about power and money, nothing else. But you keep drinking the koolaid. Figures don’t lie, but liars figure.
 

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Imagine a virus that can come to the grocery store with you, on the bags you bring from home, but the same viruses don't come on the clothes you brought from home......because the virus only likes old grocery bags and not clothing.

A virus so smart it will only attack people in non essential businesses and waits until a group is 10 or more.......and then it strikes. If there is a group of nine it waits for the 10th to enter....and then the attack begins.

A virus unable to attack in liquor stores but will definitely kill everyone at the gym. Imagine a virus so deadly that it can be killed with soap and water.

Imagine a virus that can't jump 3 feet over glass at the grocery store but could kill everyone at the fitness club.....but will in no way kill anyone buying booze, smokes, weed or fast food.

Imagine a virus that doesn't infect children but does infect old people because it can think and obviously can assess age before it strikes. Imagine a virus that can kill at less than 6 feet, not 7, not 8....6.

Imagine a virus infecting everyone on TV but infecting no one you know personally......unless you're on Facebook and then someone you don't know, knows another person you don't know, who knows a friend of Aunt Betty, who had the virus.

Imagine a virus so deadly, hospitals are laying off nurses and closing entire floors...just to stay open.

Imagine a virus so smart that it knows not to infect government officials as they're signing government legislation regarding the virus killing everyone instantly at distances closer than 6 feet.

Imagine a virus understanding that it can only kill the public and not the politicians who huddle together shoulder to shoulder in front of the cameras. Kill the public and leave the people in government alone.

Imagine a virus that only infects non communist countries because it can see borders with its special glasses. This virus is really something.

Imagine a virus that's supposed to be airborne but doesn't come out the sides of any mask because the mask is magic like that. The virus being so smart it knows to stay inside the mask and not leak out the sides of the mask with the rest of the air.

And if the masks work at blocking the virus, why can't we go back to work wearing masks and if they don't work....why are we wearing them?

Imagine a virus so smart that it will kill you instantly at the park, beach the ocean or on the bike path as you exercise (with no one else around you for miles) but will leave you alone at all essential businesses.

Imagine a virus so deadly and so lethal that the only way to protect yourself from it, is to inject it under your skin.

Now imagine a person who can't figure any of this out. Then you can see that it's a completely illegitimate extortion scheme
This.
 

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Let’s say the death rate is the same. When’s the last time the seasonal flu accounted for nearly 90,000 deaths? Hell just since the beginning of April we’ve had just about 84K deaths. Even if the death rate is the same, it’s far worse than the flu because it spreads much more easily and rapidly and the whole lack of any type of vaccination. At least the flu has a vaccination that is sometimes beneficial in preventing and proven medication that is much more readily available for treatment.
90,000- inflated number. Gang bangers killed in drive by shooting, hospitals listing death as Covide so they get more money. The actual number is probably somewhere in the 40/50 thousand range.
 
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Chicago mayor said to pledge allegiance to the new world order and to Lucifer and immediately the media tried to say it was fake lmao
 

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I’m gonna go with whatever the Scientologists come up with. Seems like the perfect balance of science and voodoo.

Not trying to call you out but.. What about what a scientist said 10 years ago?

God I wish it worked like that for my job.

"Hey everyone, make sure your passwords are only 6 characters long. What? Can they be your name? Sure, no one is going to crack that **** anyways."
 
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I’m a pharmacist and I trust none of them — because there is no consensus - none . The experts are close to laughable . Models were a joke .. try googling “ can you be reinfected with Covid “ answers from experts all over the map . The correct answer is “ no one “ . The WHO is a joke .. the CDC played games with the numbers .


Ah, finally another healthcare professional who sees and understands reality. Good work, my man.
 
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Not trying to call you out but.. What about what a scientist said 10 years ago?

God I wish it worked like that for my job.

"Hey everyone, make sure your passwords are only 6 characters long. What? Can they be your name? Sure, no one is going to crack that **** anyways."
OK
 

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I believe in the scientists. Yes tthey have guesses but they know something about what they guess.
Others sepculate and they have no basis for their speculations.
most bitches are from people not getting happy right now.
I believe in my own thoughts on preservation. I would bet, I will be here when this is over. Really, hope you are too!
Who do you put your life trust to?
I believe in science.

www.off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the coronavirus-panic/

I believe in Dr. Wittkowski, perhaps the most accomplished expert in the world in his field. I believe Dr. Bhattacharya of Stanford. I believe the Swedish scientists who advised against a lockdowns.

SCIENCE.
 
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I never said I believe Trump on everything. I only said I don’t believe all the made up science on this virus and climate change. It is all about power and money, nothing else. But you keep drinking the koolaid. Figures don’t lie, but liars figure.
I see your a self proclaimed genius too.
 
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I never asked any of that.

My point is that a Scientist isn't an economist. And they can't predict the future any more than you or I can. A lot of these NON SCIENCE BELIEVERS OMGFG.. aren't non-science believers, actually. They just think we can reopen the economy, TO PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE, while still maintaining social distancing and other preventative and protective measures.

You hit on the key point IMO, when you say they (nor can anyone) predict the future. People love certainty and they hate uncertainty. The situation as it exists right now is characterized by a good many unknowns. Info is evolving everyday about how this is spread, who is at risk, what treatments, or preventions may or may not help etc. And as time goes by that info will evolve and become more correct as more data is obtained. The health and pandemic experts are voicing opinions and advice on the best info we have at the moment and obviously not all of those opinions agree with each other.

So far as what actions should be taken, I agree that science and medicine represents one extremely important discipline in this situation, but the other is economics and finance. If we go to the extremes in either direction it could result in a a perilous situation. Instead we have to find was to function economically while doing the best we can to protect and treat citizens.

In the end it isn't up to the federal, state or even local government entirely, each citizen has a responsibility to do what they can to protect themselves and respect the health of their fellow citizens as well.
 

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I trust this creepy dude...



He called on his imaginary friend to blow away Covid-19 back on April 5th, and we haven’t had to deal with it since.


Good choice. I'm following this dude....he's selling a Covid-19 cure for only $25.



On a more serious note, I follow what the CDC and other top scientists/medical professionals have to say. At the other end of the spectrum, I don't listen to any half wit politicians, televangelists/preachers, or crackpot doctors with YouTube videos any more than I would listen to some mouth breathing knuckle dragger on Facebook when it comes to matters on anything, let alone when it concerns the health of myself and my family.
 

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I’m a pharmacist and I trust none of them — because there is no consensus - none . The experts are close to laughable . Models were a joke .. try googling “ can you be reinfected with Covid “ answers from experts all over the map . The correct answer is “ no one “ . The WHO is a joke .. the CDC played games with the numbers .
 

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Literally no one , not 0.01 % of humanity says Covid isn't dangerous. Everyone agrees it can kill you . Its the govt reaction and the politics of the virus that drives normal sane people insane. I've got a friend/cousin who daily post doom n gloom on his FB page , his career is microbiology / public safety . He's a PHD guy and I wouldn't trust his info over Joe Blow , because he's totally biased in his viewpoint . You can be intelligent and educated and dumber than a hoe handle. Or so biased you no longer recognize the truth. He's having to dig deeper for bad things to report these days , today it was article from NBC about another BIG DANGEROUS OUTBREAK IN WUHAN OR SHUHANN OR DUHAN or some ******** . It was affecting 100's causing HUGE LOCKDOWNS ..
 
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Not the so called "experts" that's for sure. Hilarious one can be called an expert yet be wrong over and over
 
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