Who do you see the Bears taking with their first pick in 2017 draft?

flyerforlife

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1. Myles Garrett to Cleveland
2. Mitch Trubisky or Deshaun Watson to S.F
3. Mitch Trubisky or Deshaun Watson or Johnathan Allen to Chicago
 

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1. Myles Garrett to Cleveland
2. Mitch Trubisky or Deshaun Watson to S.F
3. Mitch Trubisky or Deshaun Watson or Johnathan Allen to Chicago

What about Kizer?

Trubisky's star rose very far very fast, and I'm leery of that. Do the Bears (or anyone else) really want to invest a high draft pick on a one year starter?
 

flyerforlife

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What about Kizer?

Trubisky's star rose very far very fast, and I'm leery of that. Do the Bears (or anyone else) really want to invest a high draft pick on a one year starter?


My thought exactly. Watson or Allen they need both positions
 

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If they can get Kizer 2nd Rd, great, but they need high value defense at the 3rd overall pick. I could also see them overthinking the dice roll at QB and picking Chad Kelly as a nod to the meatheads.
 

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Allen, Williams

I think you could get Watson or Kaya in the second round. Draft best player available. Don't like fast risers like Trubisky.

Kizer scares me some

Not really a big fan of any of the quarterbacks in this draft though I know they need one.

And Pace needs to be shot if he takes Kelly at any point unless he's a UFA
 

Snetsrak61

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Watson had a ton of turnovers over the past few years....don't we have one of those under contract already? I say trade it and get more picks
Wonder how much correlation and carry over there is. Matt Ryan threw A TON of picks his last two years at BC and has done alright in the department as a pro. Jameis Winston is another guy, who while still interception prone has improved a bit as a pro. All accounts I read about Watson say he has the type if work ethic and drive to improve his game.
 

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Linemen and defense until we get to .500.

Dallas had a couple of drafts where they went Oline in the top rounds. Now they have arguably the best overall Oline in the league. They make the running game go (Murray, Elliott etc) and that is a QBs best friend (a good running game. Second best friend is a stud 6 foot 6 TE that can run and has hands).

Agree - Chicago should go Oline and D as this years QB class is not all that great in my opinion.
 
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flyerforlife

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Dallas had a couple of drafts where they went Oline in the top rounds. Now they have arguably the best overall Oline in the league. They make the running game go (Murray, Elliott etc) and that is a QBs best friend (a good running game. Second best friend is a stud 6 foot 6 TE that can run and has hands).

Agree - Chicago should go Oline and D as this years QB class is not all that great in my opinion.

That not always the case the Rams when they were in St. Louis went o-line a number of years in a row, And you see how that turned out.Build on Defense first.
 

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With the League rules slanting to favor offenses I think it now more important to build the offense. I say roll the dice on the Watson kid and solidify the O Line. Defense next year.
 

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Projecting picks before the combine and pro days is absurd IWBCH

That said, at three, gimme Allen or Adams right now.
 

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I have always been a defense first guy. If you can hold teams, you will be in a lot of games. But you do need to score points too. Then, of course, it depends on what's in the draft as someone else said.
 

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Just watched all UNCs snaps versus Miami, FSU, Pity.Trubisky is really good. His placement and accuracy arr great. He throws well on the run, has great awarenes, and is exceptional throwing routes outside the hashes.

He's also got great size and mobility.

His best trait is his ability to put the ball right where it needs to be. His biggest question mark is taking snaps under center and throwing deep over the middle.

I'm not opposed to him at three barring something in the days of testing.
 

Snetsrak61

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I'm currently just smitten with the idea of Deshaun Watson, but I havent legitimately watched tons of tape and certainly not with a critical scouting eye. The good news is I think there are plenty of routes they can take which is more than I felt a couple weeks ago where it felt like a two man draft and the Bears outside lookimg in.
 

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Watched Watson today too. He's far better on the ball, throwing slants and posts, and has the resume. Cannot say I'd be mad if thwy took him. Size scares me.
 

Snetsrak61

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Watched Watson today too. He's far better on the ball, throwing slants and posts, and has the resume. Cannot say I'd be mad if thwy took him. Size scares me.
He's got enough height. And bulk can be worked on, especially if you don't rush him into a starting roll. Let him bulk up and learn a pro offense for a year. Cutler, or if you prefer to move on immediately, a Hoyer or Glennon type can be a one year bridge.
 

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I mean hes not Cam Newton big but hes not little either. Signing bonus and some prime rib will do the trick.
 
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Watched Watson today too. He's far better on the ball, throwing slants and posts, and has the resume. Cannot say I'd be mad if thwy took him. Size scares me.

Trade down and get a pair of Bama defensive line bookends.

The last time the Bears drafted from Clemson was a appliance. (Refrigerator)

Wassup
 

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Trade down and get a pair of Bama defensive line bookends.

The last time the Bears drafted from Clemson was a appliance. (Refrigerator)

Wassup
I wouldn't call William Perry a bust by any means. He had some pretty good years with the Bears unlike a few of the recent number one picks.
 

Snetsrak61

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I wouldn't call William Perry a bust by any means. He had some pretty good years with the Bears unlike a few of the recent number one picks.
Its also totally irrelevant considering how long ago and how specific it is. Neat bit of trivia though!
 

JFelice

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No QB is worth #3 pick. Bears have too many needs to be reaching for a QB just because they haven't had one in a while. It's not surprise that the best GM's have made their mark taking the best player available, when you start reaching for needs you've already lost. The draft is pretty good at a number of the Bears need positions. Bears need impact players all over the place and the opportunity to get a big time one is available yet most Bears fans want to reach for a QB. That's why the organization sucks, it does dumb crap like that.
 

JFelice

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If they can get Kizer 2nd Rd, great, but they need high value defense at the 3rd overall pick. I could also see them overthinking the dice roll at QB and picking Chad Kelly as a nod to the meatheads.
No chance to get Kizer 2nd Rd. Of the big 3 his ceiling is the highest but there is also fairly significant bust risk. With that said he'll be taken in first 12 picks.
 

JFelice

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Now that Peppers is coming out I would take him and 3.
No chance, he doesn't have a position in Bears D. Bears played an insane amount of Cover 6 this past year, historical Fangio is a 2 high safety DC and that's all he's showed with Bears. You don't see many 3-4 defenses that walk their SS up in the box often. Peppers cover skills are lacking. He needs to go to a creative DC that can create a position for him in a 4-3 base, ala Buchanon in Arizona or Shaq Thompson in Carolina. If Peppers plays a modified WLB role for a coach that can utilize his strengths he can be a solid player but under no circumstances do you take a player like that, that is scheme dependent, at #3. Safety isn't good value at a pick like #3 but with how good Malik Hooker and Jamaal Adams are I don't think you care about going a little high on one of them. If you could get a guy like Ed Reed at #3 would you take that or pass because of positional impact? To me at this point there are 4 acceptable picks:

Edge Myles Garrett Texas A&M (won't fall to 3)
3-4 DE Jonathan Allen Alabama
S Malik Hooker OSU
S Jamaal Adams LSU

Other guys may climb into that group with strong combined (Soloman Thomas being one, a number of CB's as well) but as of right now if the Bears don't take one of those 4 above they've screwed the pooch.
 

JFelice

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At #3 you take best player and that's Allen and it's not even close.

I wouldn't be opposed to trading down.
Agreed, so many similar type QB's have struggled to come close to replicating their college success. I guess Mariota is best case comparison but he always took much better care of the football. Is Mariota a franchise QB? Doubtful. Watson's accuracy issues put very serious doubt in his ability to be a franchise QB, at that point why on earth would you consider drafting him there when you can select potential multiyear pro bowlers at other need positions? The Bears had zero playmakers at DB this year, couldn't create a turnover to save their lives and the front 7 is actually shaping up nicely, what good is pressure when you can't take advantage of it?
 

JFelice

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Dallas had a couple of drafts where they went Oline in the top rounds. Now they have arguably the best overall Oline in the league. They make the running game go (Murray, Elliott etc) and that is a QBs best friend (a good running game. Second best friend is a stud 6 foot 6 TE that can run and has hands).

Agree - Chicago should go Oline and D as this years QB class is not all that great in my opinion.
I have no problem with this sentiment at all. I think that can be our calling card, with a solid run blocking OL, a very good young RB and lots of pieces toward an elite defense in tow there is no problem winning games on the ground and on defense with an efficient QB. Look at the Chiefs, Texans (don't even have the QB) etc. The issue is their is no OL worthy of the 3 pick. I have serious questions about them even in middle of 1st. That said your defense contingency still holds water.
 

JFelice

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With the League rules slanting to favor offenses I think it now more important to build the offense. I say roll the dice on the Watson kid and solidify the O Line. Defense next year.
You simply can't afford to miss on another high pick, can't miss at #3 and can't miss with another QB. If you think Watson is a franchise QB that's another story, I disagree but doesn't mean I won't be wrong. If Pace sees things how I do, no sure franchise QB, only Kizer really with that ability albeit very risky and far from realizing it then I will shoot him if he takes a QB that high. If Pace truly believes one of them is a franchise QB than you have to take that guy.

Sorry for the 10 posts, as a Bears fan the draft is all I have, and I've been researching it all year lol.
 
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