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Who has more non grad fans, OM or MSU?

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And part 2: Do we need more?


Part 1 I say probably OM but its close. More old geezers that didn't go to college liked the winning and Dixie stuff years ago. I think we overtake them in the younger generations.

Part 2 I think both would benefit from growing our non grad fanbase. We all make fun of the trailer park following Bama has but I think it's very beneficial in the end.
 
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I'm one of them ... went to JCJC, Gordon, and Lipscomb - but Jack Crystil

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FreeDawg said:
And part 2: Do we need more?


Part 1 I say probably OM but its close. More old geezers that didn't go to college liked the winning and Dixie stuff years ago. I think we overtake them in the younger generations.

Part 2 I think both would benefit from growing our non grad fanbase. We all make fun of the trailer park following Bama has but I think it's very beneficial in the end.
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Yep, OM has to have the biggest sidewalk contingent due to old south sympathies.

Yeah, sidewalk fans are beneficial and we should have more. However, loyal fans are beneficial too. We need both.
 
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Maroonthirteen

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OM but I am in north MS.

2. Hell yes. I would say our game attendance would jump a couple to 5 thousand if all of the east MS blue collar people were not Alabama fans.
 
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Purely anecdotal....

but you see a lot more MSU gear on random folks around town in Jackson metro.
 
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Here at my office in Hattiesburg, I have two non-grad OM fans. 0 non-grad MSU fans. 1 non-grad Bama fan.
 
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Ole Miss all day long

FreeDawg said:
And part 2: Do we need more?


Part 1 I say probably OM but its close. More old geezers that didn't go to college liked the winning and Dixie stuff years ago. I think we overtake them in the younger generations.

Part 2 I think both would benefit from growing our non grad fanbase. We all make fun of the trailer park following Bama has but I think it's very beneficial in the end.
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that rebel flag comes in handy on 87 chevy trucks w/the tennis ball on the CB whip and those handy rebel shirts nice w/sleeves cut out.

Close 2nd is bama
 
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Basically this in a nutshell.

Im from a small town in central Mississippi and most of the "rednecks" that I know were Ole Miss fans because of the mascot and the old south history. These guys would be kicked out of the grove on site, but they did not understand that, nor did they know what the grove was or where it was located. They liked Ole Miss for other racial reasons.

Indndawg said:
that rebel flag comes in handy on 87 chevy trucks w/the tennis ball on the CB whip and those handy rebel shirts nice w/sleeves cut out.

Close 2nd is bama
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Same for me. That 98-yard drive in the last 2 minutes in Memphis in 1974 hooked me for life.
 
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JacksonDevilDog said:
Im from a small town in central Mississippi and most of the "rednecks" that I know were Ole Miss fans because of the mascot and the old south history. These guys would be kicked out of the grove on site, but they did not understand that, nor did they know what the grove was or where it was located. They liked Ole Miss for other racial reasons.
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North MS is filled with non OM grads. I believe they out number even Bama non grads. It's mostly because of what you said. The old south image they portray. I only know 1 non MSU grad in this area besides me.
 
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That's because almost everyone who goes to MSU is from Jackson. Ole Miss has the coast, MSU has Jackson.
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Not sure I concede the coast to OM. Lots of MSU folks here. I know quite a few USM grads that sent their kids to MSU. Also a lot sidewalk LSU fans.
 
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What are you even talking about? There's a ton of old money Ole Miss folks in Jackson. Ever been through Jackson Prep? And to say Ole Miss owns the Coast is ******* stupid at best. Just because Dickie Scruggs is from Pascagoula doesn't mean they own the Coast.
 
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FreeDawg said:
And part 2: Do we need more?


Part 1 I say probably OM but its close. More old geezers that didn't go to college liked the winning and Dixie stuff years ago. I think we overtake them in the younger generations.

I have to agree. With all the PC things done, you have to assume OM has pissed off those redneck sidewalk fans and the older sidewalk fans that pulled for OM because of their success in the 60's are dying off. A lot easier for a typical MS sidewalk fan to pull for state now a days than it is for OM when both programs have similar success.
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whereisATL said:
A lot easier for a typical MS sidewalk fan to pull for state now a days than it is for OM when both programs have similar success.
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Interesting take. I suppose with the Our State stuff, and Ole Miss' emphasis on Texas/Georgia/Illinois/etc., this makes more sense. Ole Miss was always considered the elite, even back in the day. I think instead of trying to keep that up, they promoted themselves to other states instead of strengthening themselves in MS. MSU took advantage. Now the gap is much closer or possibly swinging in favor of MSU (I'm talking State of MS here).

But there again, you see the following that Ole Miss baseball has amassed, they've taken many of the youngsters and made them Ole Miss fans because of the hoopla around it for the past decade. But I still think the focus is on out of state for you.
 
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Another reason UM has more - look at a population density map of Mississippi.

http://www2.census.gov/geo/maps/dc10_thematic/2010_Profile/2010_Profile_Map_Mississippi.pdf

I would say a lot of north MS sidewalk fans lean toward UM rather than MSU simply because it's closer to home. Draw a one hour radius from Oxford that reaches basically to Memphis / Desoto County, Holly Springs, Tupelo, Batesville, New Albany, Pontotoc. Lot of small towns but also a lot of people living in rural areas outside those towns. You have a lot of non-grad people with decent incomes due to the manufacturing industries in this area. They can afford to go to ball games and many live within about an hour of Oxford.

Now do the same thing with Starkville. You get Columbus, West Point, Louisville, Philadelphia, Kosciusko, Houston, Amory, Aberdeen, and stretch just barely to Tupelo. So you have some small towns, but the area between those towns are bare... no one lives there. Those areas are also on average poorer than the counties to the north where UM gets a lot of it's sidewalk fans. And to the east (Columbus area) you're competing with Bama.

I went to a high school 30 minutes from Oxford, 90 minutes from Starkville. I can't tell you how many UM games I went to and how many school trips we took there. I only visited MSU one time in my whole life (when I was about 12) before I went there looking for an apartment. I would guess 90% of my friends from highschool would say the same thing. Very few went to college, and so now they are UM sidewalk fans.

Strangely... almost all of my highschool friends that went to a 4-year college chose MSU over UM.
 
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MadDawg.sixpack

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OM - and it's not even close.

Why? The rebel flag and colonel reb. Why do you think it took so long to get rid of them? And why there is such a strong contigent fighting to bring them back?

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Maroonthirteen

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Yep, bingo Kired. Desoto county and Germantown/Collierville, TN is an hour drive to Oxford. That is huge for their attendance figures. That is the difference in their attendance vs ours. That and Lowndes county is just as much an Alabama community as State.
 
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dawgfan016 said:
Ole Miss does not own the coast, not even close. If anyone owns the coast it's LSU.
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I would rate the coast like this:

1. LSU/Bama - depending on who had the better season that year
2. MSU/Ole Miss - I really know about the same from each school
3. MGCCC
4. USM - 5 of their 10 are down here.
 
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Ole Miss definitely has more sidewalk fans in North Ms but I live and grew up about an hour from both campuses and the disparity has changed since Mullens arrival. My brother is a UM grad and we were recently talking about how many more State tags, stickers, t-shirts, and yams signs that you see now compared to 5-10 years ago. A young energetic coach and a 3 yr run at the Egg Bowl has built excitement for the casual fan. It will be interesting to see if its sustainable after the bear victory last year and their hiring of the newest coach.
 
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