Who is leaving next year?

[sheyduke]

Lukes parents were at a good bit of games last year so I don't see the big deal here...and he isn't even a good defender much less a "stopper"

IMO if he leaves he sits at the end of a bench for at least 2-3 years....now if he wants to get paid and do that then fine he should leave...but it's his decision

Once again the point is, How many players in the NBA are defensive stoppers? Luke will get drafted and play because of his offensive ability.
I never said anything about his defense. There are only a hand full of guards in the NBA that can play defense. Luke is a scorer that can switch hands going to the rim and shoots lights out and will thrive in the NBA just for his shooting.
I can't recall his parents being at every game like this year.

 

[DevilDJ]

I don't see Luke's name in a lot of NBA draft talk.

#30...

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Luke-Kennard-72914/

#20...

http://www.nbadraft.net/ranking/bigboard

#24...

http://www.nbadraft.net/2017mock_draft

#16...

http://uproxx.com/dimemag/nba-draft-watch-luke-kennard-duke-markelle-fultz-kentucky/6/

Who's to say a strong finish this season and those positions don't improve even more? I'd say it's more likely that Grayson returns since Kennard has passed 'im in these drafts and , honestly , I don't think he does either. I think he finishes school this summer too. If I've learned anything in the age of OAD is if these kids have a chance to go they almost always do...unless they play for Roy in which case they stay all 4 years. Bolden gone , Chase gone ( transfer. ) Javin? Wouldn't be shocked at a transfer. Kid was a Top 40 recruit outta high school and never gets the warm-ups off. That was probably not what he envisioned when signing with Duke. Final thought. Let's face it. Guys leave Duke. Good bad whatever. K has his share of transfers. Throw that in the mix and I'm gonna hope for the best but expect the worst.

 

[CRAZIE4LIFE]

Coach K is retiring too

 

[HeLooks2MuchLikeDave]

I'm hearing that Coach K was strongly considering transferring to State, but didn't want to sit out a year

 

[AlanInNJ]

I hear the Cameron Crazies are leaving too soon to be replaced by a low energy and less witty group of Cameron Kookies.

 

[Rook#32]

FSU fan here but I love CBB and watch most of Duke's games because I have always been a Coach K fan.

It stinks to see a guy like Giles leave early withhis stat line but with him battling injuries he's likely gone. Bolden has the raw ability but I think it would be a huge mistake to leave. Luke seems like he would be a guy that is not going to make the mistake Grayson did and he'll leave after an All-American year.

I see Bolden Leaving because of the T word.

 

[WI#1Dukie22]

Law of averages will take place:

Tatum and Giles will leave and then:

1 of Jeter/Bolden will not be back
1 of Luke/Grayson will not be back

And then 50/50 on a head scratcher: i.e. Frank going pro
A second transfer
Missing on all remaining recruits

I see a bare minimum we lose 6 (includes Matt/Amile) and a max of 8. 8 would be devastating, and have ripple effects for a bit.

 

[WI#1Dukie22]

I can't see a scenario where both Bolden and Jeter leave or where Both Luke and Gray go pro, but they would be MUCH more likely. Of course when we cut the nets down anything can happen

 

[Jake1985]

Or even crazier that Marcus Keene comes to Duke next year....

 

[WI#1Dukie22]

That would get some media attention!

 

[adm015]

Why do people think Jeter would transfer? It that was the case why not transfer over Christmas break that way he could play next year. I think Jeter and Bolden will be back next year along with Javin.

 

[DukeDenver]

I see a bare minimum we lose 6 (includes Matt/Amile) and a max of 8. 8 would be devastating, and have ripple effects for a bit.

I think we lose the 2 seniors plus 2-3 more to the draft. We may also lose a transfer, but that's my worse case scenario. I see no way we'd ever lose 8 guys. I predict 5 including seniors.

 

[WI#1Dukie22]

5 would be INCREDIBLE news!!

 

[CRAZIE4LIFE]

Semi is transferring back.

 

[DukeJim99]

I'm bad at this and I have no inside info. So, to be honest, this post is pointless.

But I wanna play along, so... chance a player is not here next year:

Tatum - 99.9%
Harry - 80%
Luke - 60%
Grayson - 50%
Frank - 25%
Jeter (transfer) 35%
Bolden (D-league, Europe, NBA) - 35%
Javin (transfer) - 5%

I think if I was their adviser, I'd advise Jayson to go to the NBA. No question.

I think I might advise Jeter to transfer if Bolden and Javin stay. Jeter is young for his year. He won't be harmed too much by sitting out and he needs to be somewhere that he can get minutes so he can develop. I hope he stays though. He seems like a good kid who works hard. And I think his time will come here. I want him to stay..

I would hate to be the guy advising Harry. Such a tough decision. Come back, weaker draft in 2018, could easily play himself into a top-five pick if he performs as we think he should and shows no further injury issues. A top five pick is a world of difference from the #20-#30 that he's projecting at now. But, what if he comes back and under performs or gets injured again? Then you're kicking yourself for telling him to come back. I think he'd be GREAT for Duke in 2018 and I think he'll be a top-five pick if he stays, but I'm a homer. I wish him well whatever he decides.

No way should Bolden transfer. If he does, that is probably the one decision out of all these kids that would surprise me the most.

 

[sheyduke]

Why do people think Jeter would transfer? It that was the case why not transfer over Christmas break that way he could play next year. I think Jeter and Bolden will be back next year along with Javin.

Couple reasons on Jeter;
1) There were rumors last season that he was thinking about it.
2) He didn't leave at mid-season because he had lower back surgery and needed to get healthy.
3) he has seen his minutes reduce greatly since the Kansas game and no one on here can really say as to why except Duke went small( sorry but a kid don't get the nod to start if he's doing so bad in practice).
4) sometimes a year of getting stronger and stepping away from being on the court and a new surrounding can really get a player back in stride and see where he needs to improve.
5) Why ride the bench another year at Duke? He did it as a freshman then as a sophomore and with Carter coming in and Bolden possibly staying next year isn't looking any different for him. Oh and there is still Big V and Javin.
Flip side is, he can take the Luke approach and come back swinging. Although imo he don't given his first two seasons.
Oh and when I say ," riding the bench." I'm not saying he should start. He's a good back up. But the issue is he didn't even get back up minutes really after Kansas or has he made it off the bench at all in games.

 

[adm015]

Do you guys think that Coach K will ever work on developing a bench and play 8-10 players a night? It just seems that with the talent that K brings to Duke he would utilize more players.

 

[pisgah101]

Newest CBS mock draft has Luke unlisted and harry at 30.. no one else except Tatum

 

[Mac9192]

Do you guys think that Coach K will ever work on developing a bench and play 8-10 players a night? It just seems that with the talent that K brings to Duke he would utilize more players.

No. That's why it makes no sense to have people jacked up over all this talent year in and year out when max number he ever plays is 8 and that's stretching it.

 

[DiehardDukeFan4Life]

I've seen several people say that they think Jeter could decide to transfer because he hasn't played much this season which isn't an impossibility but I don't see him transferring because he still gets excited from the bench during games and jumps up and cheers on his teammates and greets them with excitement when they come to the bench, also most seem to keep ignoring that he had back surgery and that could be the main reason that he isn't getting playing time right now because it's possible that he might not be fully healed and recovered from his back surgery, yes he's young and in good shape from being an athlete but speaking from experience of having back surgery when I was younger. They say kids/young people recover/heal quicker, which is true but even so, when I had back surgery when I was 12-13 years old it still took me at least 2-3 months to fully recover and get back to full strength after surgery. Some people just take longer to heal/recover from injuries/surgeries.

 

[Tross282003]

I think Tatum, Giles and Kennard are gone. Jeter could transfer. Bolden comes back and If Allen is smart he would come back. I don't think crack the first round this year. My two cents

 

[skysdad]

Couple reasons on Jeter;
1) There were rumors last season that he was thinking about it.
2) He didn't leave at mid-season because he had lower back surgery and needed to get healthy.
3) he has seen his minutes reduce greatly since the Kansas game and no one on here can really say as to why except Duke went small( sorry but a kid don't get the nod to start if he's doing so bad in practice).
4) sometimes a year of getting stronger and stepping away from being on the court and a new surrounding can really get a player back in stride and see where he needs to improve.
5) Why ride the bench another year at Duke? He did it as a freshman then as a sophomore and with Carter coming in and Bolden possibly staying next year isn't looking any different for him. Oh and there is still Big V and Javin.
Flip side is, he can take the Luke approach and come back swinging. Although imo he don't given his first two seasons.
Oh and when I say ," riding the bench." I'm not saying he should start. He's a good back up. But the issue is he didn't even get back up minutes really after Kansas or has he made it off the bench at all in games.

You know we seem to have rumors every year just because so and so is not getting the minutes so of us think they deserve. Last year Chase was no where ready to get significant playing time. This year he has showed progress but this back injury plus other nagging injuries have held him back. He's gonna play at Duke as a senior and join 8 others that we seem to enjoy questioning his abilities and he may even walk away with a natty ring. OFC

 

[spike05rk]

Tatum 100% gone
Giles 100% gone
Kennard 60%
Allen 50%
Bolden 20%

 

[sheyduke]

I've seen several people say that they think Jeter could decide to transfer because he hasn't played much this season which isn't an impossibility but I don't see him transferring because he still gets excited from the bench during games and jumps up and cheers on his teammates and greets them with excitement when they come to the bench, also most seem to keep ignoring that he had back surgery and that could be the main reason that he isn't getting playing time right now because it's possible that he might not be fully healed and recovered from his back surgery, yes he's young and in good shape from being an athlete but speaking from experience of having back surgery when I was younger. They say kids/young people recover/heal quicker, which is true but even so, when I had back surgery when I was 12-13 years old it still took me at least 2-3 months to fully recover and get back to full strength after surgery. Some people just take longer to heal/recover from injuries/surgeries.

And Derek Thornton played and cheered for every game how did that work out?

NBAdraft has
Tatum-6
Giles-13
Luke-23

 

[sheyduke]

You know we seem to have rumors every year just because so ans so is not getting the minutes so of us think they deserve. Last year Chase was no where ready to get significant playing time. This year he has showed progress but this back injury plus other nagging injuries have held him back. He's gonna play at Duke as a senior and join 8 others that we seem to enjoy questioning his abilities and he may even walk away with a natty ring. OFC

I'm not questioning his ability at all sky. Just the fact that with who is coming in and Bolden possibly staying that Jeter may look at it and decide its best to try a new start

 

[DukeDenver]

Chase wants to transfer to Chapel Hill, but Roy turned him down. That's the only reason he'll be back.

 

[Mac9192]

Chase wants to transfer to Chapel Hill, but Roy turned him down. That's the only reason he'll be back.

That's cold

 

[DevilDJ]

Newest CBS mock draft has Luke unlisted and harry at 30.. no one else except Tatum

That could be interpreted as good news...for Luke's return anyway. K's on record as saying he was gonna be careful with Harry. Let's face it , another injury and his NBA dream could be over. Because of that , I still think he leaves. Too much at stake.

 

[DiehardDukeFan4Life]

And Derek Thornton played and cheered for every game how did that work out?

NBAdraft has
Tatum-6
Giles-13
Luke-23

Derek Thornton didn't have to have back surgery in the middle of the season. Totally different situations between the 2 players.

 

[dukehokie]

Or even crazier that Marcus Keene comes to Duke next year....

No Duval and this becomes a very real possibility.

 

[pisgah101]

That could be interpreted as good news...for Luke's return anyway. K's on record as saying he was gonna be careful with Harry. Let's face it , another injury and his NBA dream could be over. Because of that , I still think he leaves. Too much at stake.

Yep. Jerry Meyer said he thinks Giles will leave he said but if he stays he could shoot up like Blake griffen and make lots more $$$

 

[distance56]

Bolden ain't transferring, he would have to sit out a year before being able to return to the court. That means he would already be 3 years into his college career before considering turning pro.

Guys that are projected 1st rounders out of High School don't transfer after a down freshman year, they just go pro....

Exception to the rule but Malik Newman would be an exception here. Played at Mississippi St for a year, transferred to KU after it became clear he'd go undrafted instead of being a OAD as projected.

Newest CBS mock draft has Luke unlisted and harry at 30.. no one else except Tatum

I would not trust that Mock. It has not been reasonable all year. For example: Frank Mason is listed as a first round draft pick. As a KU guy I love Frank and I think he might get a shot to play his way onto a roster, but there is NO WAY he is a first rounder. Trust DraftExpress when looking at free NBA draft sites. They do a great job. Towards the end of the season they do a great job of putting up video explaining the pros and cons of players with strong draft considerations.

 

[dukiejay]

I think Vrank and Robinson are gone also. Obi more than likely. Really to be honest I don't think anyone is coming back and I think our incoming frosh are going to have second thoughts and go elsewhere. This will be to much of a challenge and Coach K will suddenly retire, the rest of the coaching staff will be taking jobs elsewhere and our team will consist of all walk ons. Now this may not be a bad thing because it will give many of the DI posters here who for years have better game plans anyway. OFC

This is what I think too.

 

[dukiejay]

Speculation is fun.

I think Grayson wants senior night. He doesn't return, IMO.....but, but, but.....

Jayson and Harry are gone. Don't pretend otherwise.

Luke is gone too.

No one else should pretend.

 

[HeLooks2MuchLikeDave]

Speculation is fun. So is playing the what if game. Next year our lineup could've been:

PG: Tyus Jones (Sr)
SG: Brandon Ingram (Jr)
SF: Justice Winslow (Sr)
PF: Jayson Tatum (So)
C: Jahlil Okafor (Sr)

Bench
Grayson Allen (Sr)
Luke Kennard (Jr)
Harry Giles (So)
Frank Jackson (So)
Marques Bolden (So)
Wendell Carter (Fr)
Gary Trent, Jr (Fr)

Coach K goes with a 6 man rotation and we all lose our minds!

 

[SoCal Dukie]

Tatum, Giles, Kennard, Allen......gone. Bolden, likely gone.

 

[topps coach]

Speculation is fun.

I think Grayson wants senior night. He doesn't return, IMO.....but, but, but.....

Jayson and Harry are gone. Don't pretend otherwise.

Luke is gone too.

No one else should pretend.

JMO but think that Luke"s decision will be based on the NBA evaluation combine feedback will determine what he does.Will be be interesting to see how they view him considering his relative lack of foot speed on the defensive end,and yes the NBA plays defense

 

[Mac9192]

JMO but think that Luke"s decision will be based on the NBA evaluation combine feedback will determine what he does.Will be be interesting to see how they view him considering his relative lack of foot speed on the defensive end,and yes the NBA plays defense

I don't care what anyone says, the NBA is watered down to the point where a guy (Kennard) that is a good college scorer can be considered enough to leave early. Out of all the early departures in last 5-6 years, how many are not playing much or not even in league? To be real, Grayson ain't ready either, nor is Giles, but I'd take $$ too. I'm only looking at it as a fan

 

[duke0527]

I wish we could have seen a full strength Giles, but the thought of him coming back and shredding his knee again in a Duke uniform is unsettling to me.

 

[1Dukie]

Leaving:

Nick Pagliuca
Matt Jones
Amile Jefferson
Grayson Allen
Luke Kennard
Jayson Tatum
Harry Giles