Who is rooting harder to lose, Giants or Eagles fans?
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Giants looked so crisp until that roughing he passer penalty. Since them it's been all eagles
Giants are all of a sudden vomiting all over the field. Sort out the turnovers and we should win this game.
Awesome interception thrown by Eli! If he can get those up a bit, they would have a better chance to lose, thus having a better chance in the lottery.
Bradford has 3 INTs. They've played bad enough to lose. Giants are just too pathetic. Time for new coaching staff. Its looking like paperbag time
Just me actually. I underestimated the Eagles D for sure, but both teams were a mess out there. Giants just a lot messier.
Rusojo another Eagles fan who says they will be 12-4 every single year. Bradford is garbage. Oops I meant 15-1 when they sit their players in last game of year
Yep yet another horribly inefficient game where they still SMACKED the opponent up and down the field. Look for this team to work out those links on offense and grow as the season goes on. The oline is already improving from week 1.
Playing for an number one overall draft pick when you're tied for 1st? LOL. That distinction might fall to teams like Tennnesee, Tampa, New Orleans, Detroit, Baltimore, KC, Jacksonville etc.
I don't think either fan base was rooting for their team to lose. Because the NFL east is so awful, both of these teams have a shot at the playoffs. If the Giants had won, they would have had a definite lead, and an Eagles victory ties the teams for first place.
There is a feeling in Eagles-land that all is not well -- that maybe Chip Kelly isn't the offensive genius he was cracked up to be. The Philly papers think the defense basically won the game.
There is a feeling in Eagles-land that all is not well -- that maybe Chip Kelly isn't the offensive genius he was cracked up to be. The Philly papers think the defense basically won the game.
camden: The feeling is that the QB's subpar play is holding the entire machine back. Yes, the OL could be better at springing the running game, but everyone's main worry is that Bradford misses more plays than he makes. It's costing us points and all the resulting 3-&-outs are gassing the defense. Against a good team, the score is upside down. Philly fans get a bad rap, but they aren't stupid. They know we aren't playing anywhere near like a first-place team.
I agree that the QB is a problem. So is DeMarco Murray (most weeks) and the OL. Chip Kelly's personnel moves do not look good so far.
There have been far more horribly played games than great games the last few seasons and this year in particular. The NFL is on record pace for penalties. Rule changes have killed defenses and the running game. The NFL has become captive to the fantasy football not great team play.
The Cowboys Eagles game is a perfect example. Look at stats and final score and you think wow great game. But for those that actually watch the game it may have been the worst played game I have ever seen!
Camden: Some of his moves have panned out (Jenkins, Thurmond, Carrol, Hicks, Sproles), but I agree with you that his big bets (Bradford/Murray) haven't panned out (so far). Still, you have to give him credit: He's won 10 games his first two years and is in first place 1/3 into his 3rd season.
WhiteBus: I guess we'll just have to disagree. While I agree, I wish the pendulum would swing back towards the defense, I still think the NFL has enough compelling match-ups to endure the inevitable clunker or two. Even though this game was ugly as hell, it was fairly tight with enough swings in momentum to make it interesting.
WhiteBus: I guess we'll just have to disagree. While I agree, I wish the pendulum would swing back towards the defense, I still think the NFL has enough compelling match-ups to endure the inevitable clunker or two. Even though this game was ugly as hell, it was fairly tight with enough swings in momentum to make it interesting.
I guess you are OK with crappy play as long as they are close games. That is the biggest deference between you and me.
My point is exciting finishes doesn't equate to great play. The quality of the game is much less than what we saw in previous decades.
As a Rutgers fan it was exciting but no it wasn't a well played game. When I watched the replay I skipped the entire 3rd quarter. Awful
If Rutgers had lost that game after tying it at 52 I would never watch a second of the replay.
can Titans take Jon Gruden with the first overall? I cant wait until they fire Whiz, knew he would fail from the day he was hired. at least Rutgers comes back from 25 down, if we're down 3 it's game over
We disagree on what we consider watchable football. "Bad" football I can watch as long as it's exciting and compelling. Definitely wouldn't watch a replay of it, however.
For instance, the Eagles/Lions blizzard game last year (or was it the year before?) was an absolute farce but I loved it.
For instance, the Eagles/Lions blizzard game last year (or was it the year before?) was an absolute farce but I loved it.
Mike: Receivers are not running open every play. In fact, much of the blame of the offensive woes rest on the shoulders of the receiving corps. They are not running wide open like you say, they have had trouble beating man coverage consistently, and lead the lead in drops. The team is improving each week and I will not be suprised when Bradford follows suit.
Chip Kelly won 20 games his first two seasons with a 4-12 team and gets no credit for it. Everyone complained after his drafts that he does not give a rats a** about defense. He makes some changes with high paid offensive personnel to give him room to improve the defense this year and the narrative then becomes how could this guy get rid of his playmakers on offense. Chip and his Eagles are moving right along. The Philly media refuses to give him the benefit of the doubt. He's almost always been right. Chip would be embraced by any other fan base.
After last nights game and first 3 and out the Eagles fans booed the players off the field; the media asks questions in press conference displaying the same attitude. I was at the Eagles jets game where the jets looked absolutely horrific and the crowd did not boo once until about 7 minutes left in the third quarter.
I'll sit here and have the last laugh. Ignore the mainstream narrative. It's bogus.
Chip Kelly won 20 games his first two seasons with a 4-12 team and gets no credit for it. Everyone complained after his drafts that he does not give a rats a** about defense. He makes some changes with high paid offensive personnel to give him room to improve the defense this year and the narrative then becomes how could this guy get rid of his playmakers on offense. Chip and his Eagles are moving right along. The Philly media refuses to give him the benefit of the doubt. He's almost always been right. Chip would be embraced by any other fan base.
After last nights game and first 3 and out the Eagles fans booed the players off the field; the media asks questions in press conference displaying the same attitude. I was at the Eagles jets game where the jets looked absolutely horrific and the crowd did not boo once until about 7 minutes left in the third quarter.
I'll sit here and have the last laugh. Ignore the mainstream narrative. It's bogus.
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Rewatch the some of the games and take note of how often the announcers mention Bradford had options.
There are receivers open more often than not. Even on that one INT, Cooper was open when he converted to a comeback. Instead, it is likely that Bradford misread the coverage and threw right at the safety. Bradley read "post" but if Cooper ran the post, he would have run right at the safety playing center field (which is why the ball was gift wrapped directly at him).
He also overthrew Ertz in the endzone early on. If that ball is placed correctly, it's a TD. How about that failed third down conversion where he threw to the flat at no one when Sproles was heading upfield with a linebacker in a trail position?
Those are just the ones that I remember. I'm sure there were many more.
Rewatch the some of the games and take note of how often the announcers mention Bradford had options.
There are receivers open more often than not. Even on that one INT, Cooper was open when he converted to a comeback. Instead, it is likely that Bradford misread the coverage and threw right at the safety. Bradley read "post" but if Cooper ran the post, he would have run right at the safety playing center field (which is why the ball was gift wrapped directly at him).
He also overthrew Ertz in the endzone early on. If that ball is placed correctly, it's a TD. How about that failed third down conversion where he threw to the flat at no one when Sproles was heading upfield with a linebacker in a trail position?
Those are just the ones that I remember. I'm sure there were many more.