Who stood and kneeled for the anthem?

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Unless you're a white female, then you're applauded and cherished o_O

Could've sworn she had a lot of people destroying her. But, again, if she wants to be black she better be ready for what comes with it.
 

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You can claim to be black if you want to. But you better be ready for what comes with it.

Dude - im a descendant of the Melungians -- I got some North African in me

Plus -- I have every right a man has who decide a to be a woman
 

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Could've sworn she had a lot of people destroying her. But, again, if she wants to be black she better be ready for what comes with it.

Destroyed only by those who outed her. The left applauded this woman like she was a female Jesus
 

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Okay
If that's who you are, then be it.

And I do sir
You'll probably never meet anyone more comfortable in their own skin - and lacking Any desire to deceive than me

There are PLENTY of black brother a and sisters that see through the phony balogna politics of the day

Their. Voice and identity is just suppressed-like several others
 

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I mentioned that because to most reasonable people, civil rights is not a left vs right issue. And if you want to know, I always vote what I judge to be best for the country, not just for me and those I care about.

And that is what this country has achieved, the great ideal it continues to strive for, and why you stand for the flag as they did last night.

Yep, these POS millenial hoes and they're stupid personal feelings, man. Govt has totally convinced them it is about THEM personally and the govt's job is to do whatever it takes to make them happy, healthy, happy, etc... It's the craziest **** the govt has ever successfully pulled...and it certainly didn't start with millenials, so i apologize. These damn baby boomer hoes. Smh.
 
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i'll tell you how it's relevant. Do you believe in Jesus Christ? Do you know what He teaches about anger? self righteousness? envy? jealousy? Do you not believe in forgiveness. This life is not about you, it is not about your misperceived grievances and righting them so that all is well in YOUR perception or the perception of HUMANS you trust. Man is imperfect and we are here to do things to make God happy, to show HIS glory in loving the way He loves all of us. And it starts over every day. But that's just what I have learned. That's why I asked.

I think you have a chip on your shoulder the size mount rushmore.
Good to know.
 

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I talk to black folk all the time who tell me that they have to secretly vote for Trump because they will be beat up by white democrats.
 

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Nice. That's fantastic.


Okay

We call it identity politics

The Bolsheviks (so?) called it "vanguard political groups "

Lots of people getting used right now
Our nation has been socially engineered to be increasingly Balkanized and hyper responsive to certain words tones and social expressions

One way to blunt the power of the propaganda is to
TURN **** OFF
 

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We call it identity politics

The Bolsheviks (so?) called it "vanguard political groups "

Lots of people getting used right now
Our nation has been socially engineered to be increasingly Balkanized and hyper responsive to certain words tones and social expressions

One way to blunt the power of the propaganda is to
TURN **** OFF
You know what else I'm seeing now that I've
Moved to Tucson?

White peoples and Latino peoples get along pretty well too

MOST folks
DO
Get along

The spew that passes for media would have you thinking that all races hate and distrust
Each other on a daily basis


Damn -- I've already got 3 Mexican and 2 Puerto Rican friends
Up in this joint -- teaching em guitar and being mentored professionally in return

(Luring them in as Kentucky fans on the down low too shawty)
 

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Nah, I never defined it as that. I always saw it as people being in love, as some historical societies have. And apparently in nature there are those type of relationships too

See the previous post with the link to the paper written on it.

I've seen a dog take a **** then turnaround and eat it too, I guess you're cool with people doing that, nature and all.

Instead of going off of a paper that is pure fantasy, why not use the actual EO? It does not solely target muslims, it does not target every muslim nation, it specifically targets people of 7 nations that Obama recommended.
 

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Countless heroes have DIED so that we could have the choice to stand, sit, kneel, protest, celebrate, vote, *****, moan, etc. So stand up during our anthem and respect them bad mother effer's!
 

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Countless heroes have DIED so that we could have the choice to stand, sit, kneel, protest, celebrate, vote, *****, moan, etc. So stand up during our anthem and respect them bad mother effer's!

That's true and it's a very respectable view

But when/of your government starts to become increasingly militant and engages in conflicts that lack a clear connection to "supporting and defending the constitution against..."

AND postures in such a way as to start making your patriotic tribute become - arbitrary? Ubiquitous and unquestioned.....

Then yeah - there's room for tough questions and push back there -

Big subject - worthy of some thought
But I'm going down to this "adult pool" that I've discovered
 

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That's true and it's a very respectable view

But when/of your government starts to become increasingly militant and engages in conflicts that lack a clear connection to "supporting and defending the constitution against..."

AND postures in such a way as to start making your patriotic tribute become - arbitrary? Ubiquitous and unquestioned.....

Then yeah - there's room for tough questions and push back there -

Big subject - worthy of some thought
But I'm going down to this "adult pool" that I've discovered


Disagreeing with a decision by our government is a right earned by the brave men and women who died for this great country and that's a good thing. However, that anthem is not about each daily decision made by our government, it stands for much more. Find another way to voice your concerns. That anthem stands for all of us.
 

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Disagreeing with a decision by our government is a right earned by the brave men and women who died for this great country and that's a good thing. However, that anthem is not about each daily decision made by our government, it stands for much more. Find another way to voice your concerns. That anthem stands for all of us.

Cool, can't wait to protest at my job by peeing in the floor to protest liberal racism. Hope people will piss in their job's floors too as a sign of unity. If they don't, then they are racists pieces of ****
 

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Cool, can't wait to protest at my job by peeing in the floor to protest liberal racism. Hope people will piss in their job's floors too as a sign of unity. If they don't, then they are racists pieces of ****

You have the right to piss in the floor at work to protest. You're welcome, said every dead American who died for your right to do so. The anthem stands for that right. THATS what you stand for when it's played.
 

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You have the right to piss in the floor at work to protest. You're welcome, said every dead American who died for your right to do so. The anthem stands for that right. THATS what you stand for when it's played.

Ha! Funkjumper I'll say that when my boss tries to fire me. Hopefully, throwing piss and **** at my boss and calling him a racist islamphobe, misogynist, capitalistic , homophobe will save my job
 

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Disagreeing with a decision by our government is a right earned by the brave men and women who died for this great country and that's a good thing. However, that anthem is not about each daily decision made by our government, it stands for much more. Find another way to voice your concerns. That anthem stands for all of us.

That's not entirely true
At least not by my convictions - and our forefathers would have disagreed as well

Our rights come from our creator -and they are inalienable

And no military force can sustain or safeguard rights when a nation becomes deeply corrupt or even systematically evil in nature

I'm not saying all those are happening at this point but I am trying to point out that The role of our military isn't to be a source of rights nor can they sustain and protect them from a decaying and increasingly amoral people

So I respect their role - but I believe we've not only overstated their role but also sent them on some missions that are a fools errand (Afghanistan immediately comes to mind) where the populace should be demanding accountability as opposed to "saluting " their work and what they're being ordered to do

Good conversation
 

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You have the right to piss in the floor at work to protest. You're welcome, said every dead American who died for your right to do so. The anthem stands for that right. THATS what you stand for when it's played.

I'd say you have the free will to urinate on that floor

But there's no such thing as a "right" ??

Not picking at you --- but I think we've twisted the idea of what a "right" is etc

But that's a much bigger conversation than I can address at the moment
:cheers2:
 

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That's not entirely true
At least not by my convictions - and our forefathers would have disagreed as well

Our rights come from our creator -and they are inalienable

And no military force can sustain or safeguard rights when a nation becomes deeply corrupt or even systematically evil in nature

I'm not saying all those are happening at this point but I am trying to point out that The role of our military isn't to be a source of rights nor can they sustain and protect them from a decaying and increasingly amoral people

So I respect their role - but I believe we've not only overstated their role but also sent them on some missions that are a fools errand (Afghanistan immediately comes to mind) where the populace should be demanding accountability as opposed to "saluting " their work and what they're being ordered to do

Good conversation

I don't disagree, CastleRubric. By 'creator', you're bringing in religion which is another freedom earned by those who died and yet another reason to stand and pay tribute to that right.
 

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Gotta give Kellcat or whatever her name is credit. She's got balls as a woman of color to give her opinion. I applaud that.

What do you think of Tanning Mom standing?
 

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I'd say you have the free will to urinate on that floor

But there's no such thing as a "right" ??

Not picking at you --- but I think we've twisted the idea of what a "right" is etc

But that's a much bigger conversation than I can address at the moment
:cheers2:

I agree with that. My point being, if Willy chooses to use pissing to get his protest in then he can do so in this country. Celebrate that.
 

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I agree with that. My point being, if Willy chooses to use pissing to get his protest in then he can do so in this country. Celebrate that.

Well, just equating kneeling compared to pissing on the floor as being insubordinate as a job is no different.

Look FunkJumper. I got tile in my kitchen. For Trump protesting . You can piss in my floor if you need to. I'll even wipe it up for you if you let me torture you through chemical restraints
 

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Welp.

Body cam footage of Michael Bennett’s run-in with Las Vegas Metro Police from August 27 has now been made public. From what we can see it appears the police acted appropriately when dealing with the Seattle Seahawks defensive end.

Police released the footage and claim it justifies their actions, and it’s hard to argue with that when you see the tape. Bennett was inside the Cromwell Hotel and Casino when there were reports of shots fired. He crouched low and then rushed out of the casino area.
 

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Welp.

Body cam footage of Michael Bennett’s run-in with Las Vegas Metro Police from August 27 has now been made public. From what we can see it appears the police acted appropriately when dealing with the Seattle Seahawks defensive end.

Police released the footage and claim it justifies their actions, and it’s hard to argue with that when you see the tape. Bennett was inside the Cromwell Hotel and Casino when there were reports of shots fired. He crouched low and then rushed out of the casino area.
I am utterly shocked. I wonder if skip and Shannon will talk about how disgusting it is that he would make all this up. Just put this in the column or more racism propaganda from the left. Bennett is a pathetic excuse of a man.

I would be very happy if the NFL took its games in England and diversified it moving half the season to games in Libya and Somalia. Clearly Roger goodell is Islamophobic and a white nationalist.

This is irrefutable proof that this "movement" is completely fabricated. From Michael Brown, to the Missouri poop Nazi sybol to this. There is no oppression, there is no systemic racism. The more blacks vote democrat, the more misery you will get.

It must be amazing to be black in America. You can literally just make something up and you will get cameras get on the news, probably be able to sue the city all for something you say happened. haha and everyone will kiss your *** b/c they are scared your stupid *** will call them racist. Blacks calling people racists is like a rat hitting the food lever for a pellet. They're so used to getting what they want.
 
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Cool, good for you. That doesn't change who I vote for though.

Wasn’t trying to change your vote; my point was only that no party has a monopoly on racism, and I guess a broader more nuanced point that people tend to point the finger at other's faults without looking at their own or seeing the same in themselves that they accuse of others (this is everywhere in today's society).

My point in engaging in this thread is that I want to see you or someone else negate the argument as presented by this civil rights attorney in the interview below.

 

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Have we figured out who's on the righteous side and who isn't?

I'm pretty shocked it hasn't been cleared up yet.
It is clear, only those who lack the intelligence to figure it out have not. You stand if you want to show respect or kneel if you want to show disrespect. Quite simple really.
 

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I don't disagree, CastleRubric. By 'creator', you're bringing in religion which is another freedom earned by those who died and yet another reason to stand and pay tribute to that right.

Ref: introducing religion

When I state that rights originate from the creator it DOES take on a religious aspect

But my point is political really

I could be Jewish Christian or atheist - regardless - I would still have to be ideologically honest and acknowledge that our Republic WAS founder with that notion/conviction/guiding principle-- as an integral element of the union of Athenian democracy and th Roman republic

And I think It's a philosophy that does more to empower "regular " people than the disengenuous Marxist "workers" movements (which are inherently atheist actually)

I just hink all that makes sense with or without my stating any personal religious faith / practice
 
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Funny thing, I was reading a few sites about NFL viewership being down again this year and most think that it is due to the hurricanes this year or some other obscure reason like a shift in media coverage of matchups or whatever. No real credence given to the fact that many are fed up with the protest. The liberal media still does not get it. Did not when many on the GOP side and some from the center left shifted to Trump. There is always some other underlying reason for them when the truth is not in line with their agenda.