Who think Cohen should adopt the Stansbury model?
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Depending on our progress those 2 seasons and what kind of team we look to have, reevaluate for 2013. If Cohen pans out the way you & I think he will, it won't be a big deal to play a top 5 schedule the way we have this season. But with the inexperience and youth the next couple of seasons, I think it's a good idea to have a bunch of easy games in the OOC to build confidence.
To me our biggest mistake was scheduling SELU and going to Corpus Christi to play Oklahoma and UCLA.
Let's be honest here- we're not a top 10 team right now. We're going to have a lot of freshmen play next year. Let's get them some confidence. Going up against a guy from UCLA that is a potential first round pick is not the way to do that.
And our RPI will be OK because we play in the SEC. We will have enough quality competition just by being in that conference.
That's exactly what I would do if I were Cohen.
Let's be honest here- we're not a top 10 team right now. We're going to have a lot of freshmen play next year. Let's get them some confidence. Going up against a guy from UCLA that is a potential first round pick is not the way to do that.
And our RPI will be OK because we play in the SEC. We will have enough quality competition just by being in that conference.
That's exactly what I would do if I were Cohen.
instead of having a top 20 schedule next year- lets drop back into the 60's-70's....once John has had 2 more years to get things stable, then we go back to having a top 20 schedule like we should...
It has worked for Stansbury 12 years...Shirley it will help John the next 2
It has worked for Stansbury 12 years...Shirley it will help John the next 2
regional, if not national, it's exactly what he should do.
And Richard Williams and Larry Templeton did set Stansbury up with exactly that kind of schedule his first year, to ease him and the players through the transition.
And Richard Williams and Larry Templeton did set Stansbury up with exactly that kind of schedule his first year, to ease him and the players through the transition.
about what we have established as a solid fact about Stansbury- he plays a ***** OOC schedule to get his win total up, and then plays solid in conference.
I think at this point, with all the flak Cohen is receiving, it would be a good idea for him to follow that model for Miss State success. Especially since the SEC is so much tougher in baseball than it is in basketball
Very simple equation
I think at this point, with all the flak Cohen is receiving, it would be a good idea for him to follow that model for Miss State success. Especially since the SEC is so much tougher in baseball than it is in basketball
Very simple equation
But for my school, I don't mind playing a few schmuck teams. This conference is difficult enough. Why make it harder?
The goal is to host a Regional (to give yourself a better shot at hosting a Super). How do you do that? Win 40 games. One series against a solid program is fine, but when you have to face the SEC gauntlet, throw some SWAC schools in there too.
Personal opinion.
The goal is to host a Regional (to give yourself a better shot at hosting a Super). How do you do that? Win 40 games. One series against a solid program is fine, but when you have to face the SEC gauntlet, throw some SWAC schools in there too.
Personal opinion.
I want Stansbury to play a national schedule because he has our program on solid ground and its time for us to take the next step. The schedule he plays now is ridiculous
I want Cohen to play a national schedule in baseball, but lets get the program turned around 1st, get on stable ground...and once we have his 3rd and 4th recruiting classes on campus...then we can start playing a top 20 schedule every year
I want Cohen to play a national schedule in baseball, but lets get the program turned around 1st, get on stable ground...and once we have his 3rd and 4th recruiting classes on campus...then we can start playing a top 20 schedule every year
but we need to play an easy schedule in baseball and football. In football you obviously don't need to impress a selection committee to get in a bowl, and you do in baseball, but playing in the sec provides enough opportunites to get quality wins. Our basketball schedule only gave Stansbury two chances at good ooc wins, and the sec was so bad this year in basketball only two of the eight teams on the sec home schedule made the ncaa tournament. I would like to see somegreat oocbaseball teams come to Dudy Noble, but itshouldn't happen until we get to a regional.
but SELU....we should NEVER be afraid to play them. I don't care where they are ranked...which was 24 the last time I saw it. <div>
</div><div>Next year = top 8 in SEC</div><div>
</div><div>2012 = top 6</div><div>
</div><div>If those things don't happen...we need a new coach. </div>
</div><div>Next year = top 8 in SEC</div><div>
</div><div>2012 = top 6</div><div>
</div><div>If those things don't happen...we need a new coach. </div>
Heck, I've been saying for years that we need to play a schedule like Ole Miss's and that it was ridiculous that we're a 3 win team playing Oregon and Georgia Tech every year.
Let's face it- the formula works.
Let's face it- the formula works.
it's about being smart and putting yourself in position to win- for now and the future. What good does us having the 3rd toughest schedule in the country do for us if we have another losing season? It's about psychology- when did we really start hitting as a team? After we skulldrug Jackson State. Why? Because it gave our hitters confidence.
If SELU is a top 25 team, we do not need to play them right now. We need a team that our players- many of whom will be freshmen, sophomores- can get good at bats against, and have good outings against so that they can have something to build off of.
Think about it this way- we don't play SELU and OU and UCLA and we replace them with UT-Martin and Georgia State, we're 25-18 right now as opposed to 20-23, with a likely 26th win coming up in the form of JSU.
If we have that record, this team is more confident because all of a sudden, they're not a losing team- they're a winning team. It helps fan morale. Be honest- how many of ya'll feel better about our team after they beat Alcorn by 25 even if it "is only Alcorn"? That means more support for the team. It's a trickle down effect.
Once we get where all we have are juniors and seniors- then you play the UCLA's.
If SELU is a top 25 team, we do not need to play them right now. We need a team that our players- many of whom will be freshmen, sophomores- can get good at bats against, and have good outings against so that they can have something to build off of.
Think about it this way- we don't play SELU and OU and UCLA and we replace them with UT-Martin and Georgia State, we're 25-18 right now as opposed to 20-23, with a likely 26th win coming up in the form of JSU.
If we have that record, this team is more confident because all of a sudden, they're not a losing team- they're a winning team. It helps fan morale. Be honest- how many of ya'll feel better about our team after they beat Alcorn by 25 even if it "is only Alcorn"? That means more support for the team. It's a trickle down effect.
Once we get where all we have are juniors and seniors- then you play the UCLA's.
I damn sure do. Say what you will about our basketball schedule but at least it keeps the season interesting. Apathy is rapidly setting in with MSU baseball.
Lets also remember that a bad season for us in basketball consists of an NIT appearance, a West title, and an appearance in the SECT finals. Granted that sucks compared to what we all expected this year but it beats the hell out of winning 5 of 21 SEC games and getting swept for the 5th time this year. Give me the "***** schedule" all day long.
Lets also remember that a bad season for us in basketball consists of an NIT appearance, a West title, and an appearance in the SECT finals. Granted that sucks compared to what we all expected this year but it beats the hell out of winning 5 of 21 SEC games and getting swept for the 5th time this year. Give me the "***** schedule" all day long.
Jackson State, Jacksonville State, Tulane even though they beat us one year with Croom. But it's very rare that we play four teams like that in a season. Heck, even this year we play Houston on the road. That's not a gimme.
Honestly, I can't remember the last time we did. Heck, our "easy" 1999 schedule had Oklahoma State on it. They weren't great that year, but I wouldn't call it a cakewalk either.
1997 maybe with ULM, Memphis, and UCF was about as close as it came. And UCF had Duante Culpepper on that team.
Honestly, I can't remember the last time we did. Heck, our "easy" 1999 schedule had Oklahoma State on it. They weren't great that year, but I wouldn't call it a cakewalk either.
1997 maybe with ULM, Memphis, and UCF was about as close as it came. And UCF had Duante Culpepper on that team.