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<blockquote data-quote="The Bell Tolls for Thee" data-source="post: 131636312" data-attributes="member: 1812660"><p>Since Lincoln? All the voter suppression of black people from post Civil War until the Civil Rights act were Democrat. And that was real suppression, not the current garbage talking point that things like requiring a photo ID is suppression. </p><p>I'm not saying parties can't change, but you are trying to say that Republicans were responsible for things from decades ago that they weren't. You seem to agree with the Orwellian idea that there is only a never ending present where your narrative is above reproach. All Republicans are racist, therefore all prior atrocities are their doing. All Republicans are dullard thugs just like the Capitol rioters, but don't paint all of BLM or their Democrat supporters with the same brush as those that did 2 BILLION dollars in damage through multiple riots across multiple months. Nevermind that prominent Republicans denounced the one riot at the Capital and prominent Democrats like the current Vice President tried to rationalize and justify the months of riots. </p><p></p><p>Refusal to vote on a black President's nominee? Over 25 times a Supreme Court vacancy has opened in the last year of a presidential term. Nearly all cases where the POTUS and Senate were opposing parties the nominee was not voted on or not confirmed. Opposite is true for when both sides are of the same political party. But the time it happened in 2016 it was all due to Republican racism and not that the nominee was not palatable to the party's agenda? As if the Republicans would have not voted on Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, or Barrett had they been nominated by Obama? </p><p></p><p>Coddling up to Putin? You mean when Romney called them a legitimate threat to the US in 2012 and Obama mocked him? The same Obama that told Russian officials to let Putin know he was just posturing tough for the election and would be more "flexible" after? The same that allowed the Russian invasion of Crimea with hardly even a strongly worded statement? The same that turned over Syria to Russian control? Where are your examples of Trump or Mitch taking it even more easy on Russia than that? Now I'm not saying that Trump was great at handling Russia. I am ointing out that you don't really give a **** about Russia, just using it as a convenient political club.</p><p></p><p>Republicans oppose illegal immigration and they say it's because of avoiding overcrowding the job and social program pool, but it's really because they hate brown people. However when Obama, Schumer, Pelosi, and Hillary were all anti illegal immigration 12 years ago ... it's because they have compassion for American workers. Or was that shoved down the memory hole and current Democrats were never opposed to illegal immigration?</p><p></p><p>KKK members say they support Trump? </p><p>Anti-semites, Farrakahn for example, support every Democrat. So are we to say that this makes all Democrats anti-semites? A Bernie supporter shot up Republican lawmakers in an act far more heinous than the Capital riot this year. He did it while shouting a Bernie campaign talking point. A talking point that other Democrats have echoed regarding healthcare. Does that mean all Democrats are blood thirsty nutjobs?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Bell Tolls for Thee, post: 131636312, member: 1812660"] Since Lincoln? All the voter suppression of black people from post Civil War until the Civil Rights act were Democrat. And that was real suppression, not the current garbage talking point that things like requiring a photo ID is suppression. I'm not saying parties can't change, but you are trying to say that Republicans were responsible for things from decades ago that they weren't. You seem to agree with the Orwellian idea that there is only a never ending present where your narrative is above reproach. All Republicans are racist, therefore all prior atrocities are their doing. All Republicans are dullard thugs just like the Capitol rioters, but don't paint all of BLM or their Democrat supporters with the same brush as those that did 2 BILLION dollars in damage through multiple riots across multiple months. Nevermind that prominent Republicans denounced the one riot at the Capital and prominent Democrats like the current Vice President tried to rationalize and justify the months of riots. Refusal to vote on a black President's nominee? Over 25 times a Supreme Court vacancy has opened in the last year of a presidential term. Nearly all cases where the POTUS and Senate were opposing parties the nominee was not voted on or not confirmed. Opposite is true for when both sides are of the same political party. But the time it happened in 2016 it was all due to Republican racism and not that the nominee was not palatable to the party's agenda? As if the Republicans would have not voted on Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, or Barrett had they been nominated by Obama? Coddling up to Putin? You mean when Romney called them a legitimate threat to the US in 2012 and Obama mocked him? The same Obama that told Russian officials to let Putin know he was just posturing tough for the election and would be more "flexible" after? The same that allowed the Russian invasion of Crimea with hardly even a strongly worded statement? The same that turned over Syria to Russian control? Where are your examples of Trump or Mitch taking it even more easy on Russia than that? Now I'm not saying that Trump was great at handling Russia. I am ointing out that you don't really give a **** about Russia, just using it as a convenient political club. Republicans oppose illegal immigration and they say it's because of avoiding overcrowding the job and social program pool, but it's really because they hate brown people. However when Obama, Schumer, Pelosi, and Hillary were all anti illegal immigration 12 years ago ... it's because they have compassion for American workers. Or was that shoved down the memory hole and current Democrats were never opposed to illegal immigration? KKK members say they support Trump? Anti-semites, Farrakahn for example, support every Democrat. So are we to say that this makes all Democrats anti-semites? A Bernie supporter shot up Republican lawmakers in an act far more heinous than the Capital riot this year. He did it while shouting a Bernie campaign talking point. A talking point that other Democrats have echoed regarding healthcare. Does that mean all Democrats are blood thirsty nutjobs? [/QUOTE]
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