Who were the players that said this:

RobbieRandolph

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Per Cohen's interview with the press today:

Though he says now he got a real heads-up last summer from a couple of Bulldogs. "I'm not going to mention any names, I had two players walk into this office and say 'I want to forfeit my scholarship right now if you can go get us quality pitching," Cohen recalled. "When kids say that to you the first thing you say is my God, is it worse than I thought on the mound?!"

My guesses: Russ Sneed and Connor Powers.
 

RobbieRandolph

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Per Cohen's interview with the press today:

Though he says now he got a real heads-up last summer from a couple of Bulldogs. "I'm not going to mention any names, I had two players walk into this office and say 'I want to forfeit my scholarship right now if you can go get us quality pitching," Cohen recalled. "When kids say that to you the first thing you say is my God, is it worse than I thought on the mound?!"

My guesses: Russ Sneed and Connor Powers.
 

DerHntr

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i bet those two get to stay on the team too if they have any talent. they already appear to have the attitude and willingness to do anything to win like cohen wants.

your guess is as good as any other on who it might be but sneed and powers wouldn't surprise me one bit.
 

JohnDawg

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edited to add: I missed the part that said last summer. My apologies.
 

Todd4State

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Does this mean that the players were throwing themselves under the bus?

At the very least, when the players are saying this, it should tell people that the talent wasn't there to start with.

It also adds to my thought that we have all these people talking about how unfair Cohen was to some of the pitchers, and yet, not very many people have mentioned that the pitchers lack of performing was unfair to the rest of the team.
 

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Our Ole Miss fans and some of our sixpackers have been saying that Cohen is throwing his players under the bus and it will cause problems and yet we have players willing to give up their scholarships to make the team better and help Cohen win. Odd.
 
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pokemystar

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I'll say you're all idiots if you believe that horseshit.
 

Coach34

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spoken like a true pitcher. Unless your Ryan Powers and you are about to kill Cohen
 
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Coach34 said:
spoken like a true pitcher. Unless your Ryan Powers and you are about to kill Cohen

Actually Powers never threatened to kill Cohen. That was made up by all you geniuses.
 

ScoobaDawg

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No it wasnt...totally different from most of his other posts have been
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<span class="actionlinks">Nominate | Report</span> <p class="topicdate">Posted: Today 9:10 AM</p> <h4>Re: Well...Who stays? Who goes? </h4> _________________________________________________ <div class="messagebody"> What manay of you do know (beause you or your child did not play here durng the Polk era) was that when Polk recruited a kid, (actually he said recruits a family) he would say that the kid was on a scholarship that was for four years if he kept his nose clean and did everything the coaches asked of him while he was there. Polks philosophy was that if he evaluated them incorrectly as being SEC caliber, it was not the kids fault and that the kid would not be forced out.
That being said, he also went on to say that if the kid was not good enough to play SEC level. He would try to find the a college that could use their talents and let them continue playing baseball. I have seen that happen several times to many kids who went to other schools and were successfull. He knew the competitive spirit would not allow most kids to do all the work required just to sit the bench. Most would either choose to quit or leave for more playing time. Polk honored that agreement for as long as I knew about him in the program.
Under the new staff, the kids are under a different reality that does not care to help the kids find a place to go. They are either encouraged to leave or they are told to leave and they may or may not get help finding a place to go. And, under the new rules that the NCAA started last year, there are no more book only scholarships, everyone must get at least 25% scholarships, transfers are very difficult because a transfer must be academically eligable the semester he enrolls and up to date on the APR schedule or the student must sit out a year to catch up.
Polks philosophy had a bad side that some less talented kids stayed on and took valuable scholarships. (even if they were then just book only) but it also developed fierce loyalty among Polks players. Most of his players would kill for the man. Good or bad he was loved by his players.
Cohen has a different reality and is taking a down program in a much more competitive baseball environment than what Polk had when he took over. He is expected to win in a place where it is tough to recruit becasue of unfair scholarships (no state lotto like Ga or Ten, remember Polk talked about this). I know he is being as fair as he can be in the environment in which he finds himself. Win or get fired in a few years. Cohen may not get the love of the players like Polk did but his realities and the rules he has to work with force a harsher system for the players. Injured players who may take a year to recover may have to leave, players in a slump have to go, I hate it, Polk warned against it and that is why he left. He was here for the kids and the program in that order, now the rules force Cohen to reverse the emphasis. He is not a bad man, just faced with different rules and realities. Cohen has been a Good to my kid as he could be. Do I like all the decisions and things that happened, no. But he was fair and up front. And by the way, that's baseball. I should know. </div>
 

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pokemystar said:
Coach34 said:
spoken like a true pitcher. Unless your Ryan Powers and you are about to kill Cohen

Actually Powers never threatened to kill Cohen. That was made up by all you geniuses.

because Powers still has teeth. I just think its hilarious someone posted that
 

Todd4State

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was that today Cohen said something to the effect that of a player wanted to leave that they would do anything they could do to help them out. Or at least that's how I understood it.

Maybe the difference is that Polk would do the legwork and find a school for the player whereas Cohen is saying "if you want to play somewhere else, you do the legwork and find a place and then we'll help you out".
 
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Hogue does not have a scholly coach33. And nobody on the team said they'd be willing to give up their scholarship.