Whos the next DC for Stoops.

Jared1985

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Charlie Strong had to be the most obvious choice, ties to the state, great recruiter and when he was calling plays as a DC was always extremely well thought of.

Would be a slam dunk hire for Stoops imo.

Any other "gettable" names being thrown around?
 

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I don't think Stoops will continue to call plays himself.....he said from day 1 he didn't want to and wanted to be more of a CEO type coach.

The D has improved from when Elliot was calling the plays sure, but honestly our defense still hemorrages yards and point to everyone who matters.

We need some new blood on D imo.
 
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JBHolmesfan

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I don't think it'll be Charlie Strong. He'll get a head coaching job. If I were him I wouldn't risk coming here to be a DC. He can go somewhere with loads of NFL talent. I know we're on the rise, but he can do better if he's not a head coach somewhere. I think Notre Dame hired Greg Hudson as their interim DC. The interim tag may be a mistake. However, if Kelly leaves he may be available. Hudson was at FSU with Stoops if I'm not mistaken.
 

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Not that I agree with staying pat on defensive side of football...but I fully expect the defensive staff to stay intact going into next year. I don't think Stoops believes he has issues on that side of ball to rectify.
 
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Not that I agree with staying pat on defensive side of football...but I fully expect the defensive staff to stay intact going into next year. I don't think Stoops believes he has issues on that side of ball to rectify.
I don't disagree with you. I disagree with Stoops if he feels that we don't have issues to rectify defensively. We are not a good defensive team by a long shot. Firing Eliot may not be the answer, but we have to improve on that side of the ball before we get over the hump.
 

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Not that I agree with staying pat on defensive side of football...but I fully expect the defensive staff to stay intact going into next year. I don't think Stoops believes he has issues on that side of ball to rectify.
I doubt he feels that there aren't issues to fix on defense, but instead of replacing staff I expect his answer would be off season training, more teaching and recruiting. I don't think he wants to replace Eliot but there are other ways to improve your defense through hard work etc
 

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So, obviously teaching and recruiting are huge parts of being a coach and a DC. However, with that fancy job title comes one of the biggest parts of his job, which is to call the game defensively. If he isn't doing that then one of the big parts of his job is minimized. So, does he do the other things well enough to make up for not calling plays on Saturdays? Is it simply enough that during the games he is kind of just the "eye in the sky" that notices trends and gives advice rather than actually fully calling the game?
 
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I doubt there are any staff changes. Stoop will be DC next year or at least call the plays
 

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We need Dline players not new Coaches
No staff changes get better recruits upfront solves a lot
Find 2 more Jordan Jones at linebacker
Agree. Our short comings have largely been due to execution, depth and talent level. I don't think the schemes have killed us as much as those factors.

I'd kill for a few more Jordan Jones
 

Comebakatz3

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When Jordan Jones learns to play under control and use that speed without over pursuing he'll be absolutely amazing. I don't mean to take anything away from him. Just making an observation.
 
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Rhavic

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Based on what I've seen from others who probably would know, we'll have a new DC next season.
 

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Charlie Strong had to be the most obvious choice, ties to the state, great recruiter and when he was calling plays as a DC was always extremely well thought of.

Would be a slam dunk hire for Stoops imo.

Any other "gettable" names being thrown around?
Forget Strong. He's getting paid by Texas not to coach. He has a Joker deal.
 
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I don't think Stoops will continue to call plays himself.....he said from day 1 he didn't want to and wanted to be more of a CEO type coach.

The D has improved from when Elliot was calling the plays sure, but honestly our defense still hemorrages yards and point to everyone who matters.

We need some new blood on D imo.
Very young defense. Depth coming from talented red shirts. Defense actually performed quite well with Mark working with them.
 

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Defense has been improved x1010000000100101000 under Stoops. He needs to be the DC, Strong would be a great hire though.
 

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Based on what I've seen from others who probably would know, we'll have a new DC next season.

Hope your right. No staff changes in D, namely Elliot, would be a huge mistake. This D has too much talent to be giving up the points they do. Need someone with an aggressive mindset. Hate the bend but don't break D because we break more times than not.
 

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Hope your right. No staff changes in D, namely Elliot, would be a huge mistake. This D has too much talent to be giving up the points they do. Need someone with an aggressive mindset. Hate the bend but don't break D because we break more times than not.
Nuclear Minter is available and ready to explode!
 
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Strong isnt gonna jump at a coaching job or he will lose about 10 million bucks he has coming to him from Texas.
 

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Defense has been improved x1010000000100101000 under Stoops. He needs to be the DC, Strong would be a great hire though.

Does anyone have an actual numbers compairing last year's defense to this year's through regular season.

The defense looked like it was in better position and played with more energy thats for sure. But as far as actual improvement??? The defense still sucked most of the time imo.

Anyone who was any good scored 25 or 30 points on us almost at will.
 

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We don't need a glorified down and distance reader being labeled our DC. I mean Stoops has been the quasi DC for 4 years anyway. No reason to keep DJ and not bring in a competent recruiter. DJ has been the worst recruiter on staff since his first year and big get of Hatcher and a couple of guys in Fla. We have Gran, Hinshaw, and Stoops for Fla. area. He is not much at all in recruiting circles.

I say bring in another DC who is a dynamic recruiter who you either still call the plays or you have a big bullhorn with your say. If DJ is not recruiting much and not calling the plays than it is time to go new direction.
 

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Prob need to look at per possession. Since we had a tremendous ground game this year im sure it cut down on the amount of possessions by the other team since we were controlling so much clock.

For a couple of years now those who always take up for the defense and saying there was really nothing wrong with it and blamed it all on the offense. It will be interesting to see if the amount of possession for the offense really did improve our defense.

If the D averages 13 yards per possession this season versus say 37 yards last year then yes the offense really helped out the D.


Does anyone have an actual numbers compairing last year's defense to this year's through regular season.

The defense looked like it was in better position and played with more energy thats for sure. But as far as actual improvement??? The defense still sucked most of the time imo.

Anyone who was any good scored 25 or 30 points on us almost at will.
 

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Does anyone have an actual numbers compairing last year's defense to this year's through regular season.

The defense looked like it was in better position and played with more energy thats for sure. But as far as actual improvement??? The defense still sucked most of the time imo.

Anyone who was any good scored 25 or 30 points on us almost at will.
Last year's defense gave up 27.4 points per game. This year's defense has given up 31.2 points per game. 394 yards per game allowed last year compared to 440 yards per game allowed this year. We have gotten 4 more sacks this year. 21 takeaways this year, 20 last year.

On those metrics the defense really hasn't gotten better at all. We simply must improve on that side of the ball or our ceiling will always be 7 wins.
 
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Jared1985

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Last year's defense gave up 27.4 points per game. This year's defense has given up 31.2 points per game. 394 yards per game allowed this year compared to 440 yards per game allowed this year. We have gotten 4 more sacks this year. 21 takeaways this year, 20 last year.

On those metrics the defense really hasn't gotten better at all. We simply must improve on that side of the ball or our ceiling will always be 7 wins.

Thank you for the stats. I really didnt have anything to back it up, but every time people started going on about how much improved our defense was I rolled my eyes thinking "there's no way it's much better than before".

Now here is a question. What year have we had our best year defensively I wonder and under who? Minter, Brown, Archer?
 

K_TIME

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Last year's defense gave up 27.4 points per game. This year's defense has given up 31.2 points per game. 394 yards per game allowed this year compared to 440 yards per game allowed this year. We have gotten 4 more sacks this year. 21 takeaways this year, 20 last year.

On those metrics the defense really hasn't gotten better at all. We simply must improve on that side of the ball or our ceiling will always be 7 wins.
Finally facts to the argument.

UK D improved during the USC, Vandy stretch and then reverted bigtime once we got back to play UT, UL..even Austin Peay rolled up yardage on us. We will not be able to outscore teams enough to get past 6-7 wins annually. We should look at shaking up the defensive staff in this offseason.
 

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We need players. We need some D-lineman that can help the linebackers. They might already be on the team but need to get stronger and faster. Amazing how good players can make a coach look good.
 

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Thank you for the stats. I really didnt have anything to back it up, but every time people started going on about how much improved our defense was I rolled my eyes thinking "there's no way it's much better than before".

Now here is a question. What year have we had our best year defensively I wonder and under who? Minter, Brown, Archer?
Without looking my guess would be 2008 or 2009. It's certainly been a long time since we've had a good defense.
 

Comebakatz3

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We don't need a glorified down and distance reader being labeled our DC. I mean Stoops has been the quasi DC for 4 years anyway. No reason to keep DJ and not bring in a competent recruiter. DJ has been the worst recruiter on staff since his first year and big get of Hatcher and a couple of guys in Fla. We have Gran, Hinshaw, and Stoops for Fla. area. He is not much at all in recruiting circles.

I say bring in another DC who is a dynamic recruiter who you either still call the plays or you have a big bullhorn with your say. If DJ is not recruiting much and not calling the plays than it is time to go new direction.

This is the big deal IMO. If he isn't recruiting well and he isn't actually calling plays in the game then what is he doing? How much is he really contributing to the defensive gameplan? How well is he doing coaching all of our outside linebackers? If he isn't recruiting well then at minimum can someone come in and do better than him at recruiting? If so then we might as well replace him.