Why are Mississippi Folks so fat?

[ronpolk]

OK then what is the solution? Have the government mandate that there must be a Kroger within walking distance of every American? Good luck with that. I think that even if there were that option most would still buy ding dongs and chips.

The problem is not the availability of food. If enough people wanted to buy healthier food, it would be available. Their are many causes but one of the main ones is an ingrained culture of government dependency where people are given just enough to live on while they sit on their asses all day and was created to maintain a perpetual reliable voting bloc.

The government already gives incentives to developers who will build in a food desert, or at least they used to. There used to be tax credits/incentives to open grocery stores in food deserts. The problem with most food deserts is that there is a lack of population to support any development. The tax credits are meant to help out with that but those are usually just a bridge and aren’t available forever.

I don’t think the concept of a food desert is the problem. The problem is poor rural communities are tough to build anything in, does not matter if that is healthcare or food. The are underserved communities in every sense and that’s because no one lives there.

 

[AttalaDawg72]

But in reality MS isn’t much fatter than most places if you don’t include the delta. Remove the delta, and MS ranks pretty much middle of the pack in all statistics. That’s some hellacious poverty to overcome

Remove the worst part of any state and it’ll jump way up.

 

[ronpolk]

The comment in red doesn't address rural food deserts, obviously.
The comment in red doesn't recognize the reality that there are areas which were once food deserts and changed, despite the demographics and socioeconomic of the area staying the same.


Other than your point being bad, you make a good point.

I’ve been a part of a few developments that used tax credits to build grocery stores in food deserts. And it certainly checked the box if “fixing the food desert” but I can tell you from seeing the actual stores and financial statements, produce sales are practically zero at most of those stores.

Sure the food desert was solved on paper, but in reality nothing was done outside of giving the dollar general competition on frozen pizza and Cinnamon Toast Crunch.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Just keep eating. You have a mouth, stomach and butthole. Don't let it go to waste. My BMI is sitting at 23 and I eat what I want about 6 days a week.

Joking I know but one of the easiest ways to heal of bunch of gut and digestion problems is to not eat for a while. In other words, fast. I know they have all these BS 'cleanses' out there that they like to sell women (and coach34) that makes them shlt for a week, lose a bunch of water, and think they lost weight. But the best way to truly do it is to give it a rest. I try and go a day, once a week. But hardcore and the most benefit is 3 days if you can really get in the zone.

Fasting is largely a religious thing, yes, but it also comes with many health benefits. Funny how that works. Also causes you to produce a shlt load of HGH.

One other thing - if you shlt more than once a day, you're probably eating too much.

 

[BoDawg.sixpack]

Diets are overrated. And here's proof. She's in shape and eats 16,000 calories in one meal.

 

[FrontRangeDawg]

There's absolute no augment to counter that society was much, much, much better 40+ years ago when spanking kids was the norm. Would you rather live in 1980 and have your kids grow up in 1980 or today? I'll take 1980 and the spankings.

No one can argue with you about whether you think society was "much, much, much better" 40+ years ago, because that's your subjective experience. You are the one who determines that.

I'm not sure what that has to do with hitting children.

I imagine many people think that today's society is better than it would have been 40 years ago. For example, women in Mississippi, who gained the federally protected right to vote in 1984.

Again, I was spanked a ton as a kid like most people born in the 70's. I wasn't permanently traumatized, but I do remember being afraid of my father in those moments when I was young and didn't understand the cause/effect that people think is being conveyed. It didn't change my behavior in any way for more than the instant in which the spanking happened. It doesn't do anything except show children that physical violence is appropriate for generally mundane mistakes of judgment. If anything, it creates more bad behavior (like lying to cover up other things to avoid being spanked.)

As an aside, I did fight a ton as a teenager, because I grew up thinking it was okay to hit and be hit. This was to my overall detriment (it led to a few nights in Oktibbeha County lock-up).

The best corollary I can think of is grandparents. I think it's accepted that grandparents can play a big role in child development (at least in my family and most of my friends by observation.) And the model of teaching/discipline from grandparents is typically teacher and indulger. My grandparents disciplined me plenty when I was with them, but never physically. I respected the heck out of my grandfather, but I wasn't afraid of him.

Anyway, I have the proof I need, which is well-adjusted teenage boys who never got spanked and somehow learned the lessons they needed without it.

 

[mstateglfr]

There's absolute no augment to counter that society was much, much, much better 40+ years ago when spanking kids was the norm. Would you rather live in 1980 and have your kids grow up in 1980 or today? I'll take 1980 and the spankings.

^ this is a false choice. You are claiming it's either 'better society with spanking' or 'unruly society without spanking'.

Reality is that if society is more unruly or worse now, it is due to more than just a lack of widespread spanking.
I am confident you know this, yet you posted like you don't know this.
That is odd.

 

[greenbean.sixpack]

No one can argue with you about whether you think society was "much, much, much better" 40+ years ago, because that's your subjective experience. You are the one who determines that.

I'm not sure what that has to do with hitting children.

I imagine many people think that today's society is better than it would have been 40 years ago. For example, women in Mississippi, who gained the federally protected right to vote in 1984.

Again, I was spanked a ton as a kid like most people born in the 70's. I wasn't permanently traumatized, but I do remember being afraid of my father in those moments when I was young and didn't understand the cause/effect that people think is being conveyed. It didn't change my behavior in any way for more than the instant in which the spanking happened. It doesn't do anything except show children that physical violence is appropriate for generally mundane mistakes of judgment. If anything, it creates more bad behavior (like lying to cover up other things to avoid being spanked.)

As an aside, I did fight a ton as a teenager, because I grew up thinking it was okay to hit and be hit. This was to my overall detriment (it led to a few nights in Oktibbeha County lock-up).

The best corollary I can think of is grandparents. I think it's accepted that grandparents can play a big role in child development (at least in my family and most of my friends by observation.) And the model of teaching/discipline from grandparents is typically teacher and indulger. My grandparents disciplined me plenty when I was with them, but never physically. I respected the heck out of my grandfather, but I wasn't afraid of him.

Anyway, I have the proof I need, which is well-adjusted teenage boys who never got spanked and somehow learned the lessons they needed without it.

Don't be a dumbass dude, women in MS voted long before 1984. The state legislature may have not technically codified that right, but i'll assure you women voted longe before. MS didn't vote to ratify the 13th amendment until 1995, guess what slavery in MS had been gone for 148 years by that point. I feel like you automatically fall that whatever you read.

 

[FrontRangeDawg]

What an absolute crock of shlt.

my dad whipped my a$$ when I didn’t do what he said. He explained to me before and after why.

same with my sisters and brother. He didn’t have to whip us a lot bc we learned.

im better for it and I love my dad for it.

are there other ways? Sure but one way doesn’t work for everyone and some kids need their @SS beat occasionally

It's not a crock, we just disagree.

My dad was an incredible guy. Gentle, rational, good teacher, thoughtful. My closest confidant after I graduated grad school. He beat the **** out of my brother and I because that was what was the norm for a dad then. It was really stupid and base, and he acknowledged this when he had grand kids.

As a kid, he always explained why he spanked me and why it was happening. He did that when I was 3, 4, 5, etc., all the way up to when I was a teenager and hit him back. I hit him back because corporal punishment is an exercise in unequal power, not discipline. Once I hit him back, the spankings ended.

I'm glad that you were able to comprehend the lessons behind spanking. I don't think it's unusual that small children can't use the same adult rationale that is guiding the spanking. Raising kids generally shows you that when you're the adult.