Why Can't This F'ing Team Field? The Comedy Of Errors Continues........

MSUCostanza

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in its overboard criticism of coaches.

As bad as we were before Cohen came, I wasn't expecting any team worth a **** last year or this year.
 

JxnDawg39211

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things are never as good as they seem, nor are they as bad as they seem. It is usually either one extreme or the other with the sheep and the trolls.</p>
 

hotdigitydog

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much talent......Yes, last years recruiting class was very good from all accounts but it's gonna take more than one class.........I always thought it was funny how people failed to realize that good players make a coach look better........</p>
 

farley662

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If you're a college ball player, you should be able to catch and throw the damn ball. If not, the coach needs to have you fielding with oven mits and throwing balls into a barrel.
 
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farley662 said:
If you're a college ball player, you should be able to catch and throw the damn ball. If not, the coach needs to have you fielding with oven mits and throwing balls into a barrel.

That lack of talent excuse doesn't hunt on this level. We're talking about fundamentals here. And that's on the coaches.
 

MSUCostanza

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The guy can coach. He won the SEC at freaking Kentucky, their first ever baseball championship. If we are still this bad halfway through the year, I'll be surprised. We still won't be very good, but I think we'll improve. Next year, in year 3, I'll expect more.
 

dudehead

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but effective coaching can produce a better baseball team than this even with average players.

Look at Saban: he took a marginally talented team and in his third year won a national championship. Of course he replaced a lot of players but he also effectively developed a lot of Shula's players as well. I personally believe that, at the college level, effective coaching is more important than having the top talent. In other words, I would rather have the best coach with good talent than a good coach with the best talent.

I still support Cohen but I do suggest that he really needs to examine what's going on with his players and his coaching because something or someone is off track right now.
 

GBryne4Heisman

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dudehead said:
but effective coaching can produce a better baseball team than this even with average players.

Look at Saban: he took a marginally talented team and in his third year won a national championship. Of course he replaced a lot of players but he also effectively developed a lot of Shula's players as well. I personally believe that, at the college level, effective coaching is more important than having the top talent. In other words, I would rather have the best coach with good talent than a good coach with the best talent.

I still support Cohen but I do suggest that he really needs to examine what's going on with his players and his coaching because something or someone is off track right now.
I couldn't disagree more.Talent wins in college athletics.

Baseball is different than football & Basketball though, because essentially every player redshirts. Even the true fresh on MSU teams had all fall to see SEC pitching/hitting, workout, and learn. Thats why it's easier to make an impact in baseball as a freshman thanother sports IMO.
 

JohnDawg

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SELA tied the game up on a shitastic throw by our left fielder, then later they stole home to take a 6-5 lead.
 

SLUdog

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4 years....that will explain that to you. Saban makes the team move from 9-3 level to 13-0 level in his coaching.
 

karlchilders.sixpack

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Cohen is doing exactly what he did at KY, before he came to MSU.
Do I know the problem is...no.

But Get OFF of Cohen. As usual, we are where we are....most of you were creaming in you jeans to get him here, and nowwe have him.

Just 17n relax and we will win sooner or later.Maybe this year, if we straighten out the fielding,That is much easier to fix than no pitching or poor hitting.
 

Todd4State

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karlchilders said:
Cohen is doing exactly what he did at KY, before he came to MSU.
Do I know the problem is...no.

But Get OFF of Cohen. As usual, we are where we are....most of you were creaming in you jeans to get him here, and nowwe have him.

Just 17n relax and we will win sooner or later.Maybe this year, if we straighten out the fielding,That is much easier to fix than no pitching or poor hitting.


We are in better shape than UK was when he took over. That team had nothing.
 

Coach34

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dudehead said:
but effective coaching can produce a better baseball team than this even with average players.

Look at Saban: he took a marginally talented team and in his third year won a national championship. Of course he replaced a lot of players but he also effectively developed a lot of Shula's players as well. I personally believe that, at the college level, effective coaching is more important than having the top talent. In other words, I would rather have the best coach with good talent than a good coach with the best talent.

I still support Cohen but I do suggest that he really needs to examine what's going on with his players and his coaching because something or someone is off track right now.


Saban got there. They had alot of good football players, plus more coming in that Shula recruited until he was removed a month before signing day- 4-5 of which will be drafted in April- plus those that were drafted and signed as free agents last year