Why doesn’t D1 football use radio helmet communication?

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NFL teams have been calling in plays to QBs and LBs via speakers inside helmets for a couple decades. The technology is good and the cost, relative to everything else, is probably manageable.

So why rely on hand signals, signs and players running in plays? Seems like a reasonable solution that should have already been in place.
 

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Headsets and wrist communication devices (Apple watch?) are going to used for bowl games this year as a test.

After Michigan sign stealing scandal it will likely accelerate the adoption of these devices full time.

One observation: side benefit for Rutgers fans will be much improved cell signals at the stadium. Schiano will not implement an Apple Watch comm system without knowing the signal will be reliable.
 

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NFL teams have been calling in plays to QBs and LBs via speakers inside helmets for a couple decades. The technology is good and the cost, relative to everything else, is probably manageable.

So why rely on hand signals, signs and players running in plays? Seems like a reasonable solution that should have already been in place.
From what I read, two big reasons.

1. College coaches don’t want to give their QBs as much power as the NFL does with the plays (IIRC the NFL headset cuts off 5-10 seconds before the play clock ends)

2. the NFL has a few approved helmet types and the concept of headset communications collectively bargained with the players, limiting their liability. College football has more helmet types, altering to add communications voids the manufacturer warranty, and no collective bargaining so adding helmet communications opens schools up to lawsuits by any player who gets a head injury.
 

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From what I read, two big reasons.

1. College coaches don’t want to give their QBs as much power as the NFL does with the plays (IIRC the NFL headset cuts off 5-10 seconds before the play clock ends)

2. the NFL has a few approved helmet types and the concept of headset communications collectively bargained with the players, limiting their liability. College football has more helmet types, altering to add communications voids the manufacturer warranty, and no collective bargaining so adding helmet communications opens schools up to lawsuits by any player who gets a head injury.

would love to see the NCAA mandate players call their own plays, on offense and defense.

make it a part of the game for players along with execution.

the coaching play calling industrial complex has jumped the shark and gotten beyond ridiculous.
 
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From what I read, two big reasons.

1. College coaches don’t want to give their QBs as much power as the NFL does with the plays (IIRC the NFL headset cuts off 5-10 seconds before the play clock ends)

2. the NFL has a few approved helmet types and the concept of headset communications collectively bargained with the players, limiting their liability. College football has more helmet types, altering to add communications voids the manufacturer warranty, and no collective bargaining so adding helmet communications opens schools up to lawsuits by any player who gets a head injury.

Interesting - I just assumed the manufacturers built them in or created the space/location to securely fasten a radio. Didn’t realize the helmet had to be altered to accommodate the headset.
 

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Interesting - I just assumed the manufacturers built them in or created the space/location to securely fasten a radio. Didn’t realize the helmet had to be altered to accommodate the headset.
I don’t know that the helmet actually has to be altered in any significant way, as much as the helmet manufacturers just holding that any alteration voids the warranty (which you see with a lot of consumer products).

In the NFL there is an incentive for the manufacturers to work with the league because they only approve a few, with college being a free for all there isn’t that incentive.
 
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Excerpts from the article:

“Most conversations have been in favor of adding helmet communication,” said Shaw, who sits on the NCAA’s football rules committee. “Most coaches are in favor of having this.”

For a long time, the concern was about the logistics and cost. The NFL is one organization of 32 teams owned by billionaires, while college football at the Football Bowl Subdivision level has 10 conferences and 131 teams. Implementing it has been considered too complicated or expensive.

Another concern among some SEC coaches wasn’t expressed publicly but has been suspected privately: Headsets would eliminate the ability to steal signals. The concept of stealing signals is an open secret in coaching, and some programs have elaborate operations. In a sport in which most rule changes benefit the offense, this could put the sides on the same level of an issue.

Told of that suspicion, David Shaw said it was comforting to hear someone admit that stealing signals exists. Bielema brought it up as well.

“There are certain places that put a premium on stealing signals, and that gets some people known as great play callers, but you can be a great play caller if you know what the other team is doing,” Shaw said.

One other issue is the helmet liability and warranty, something Steve Shaw has continually pointed to. The concern is if helmets are modified to fit the communication system, the liability or warranty could be voided, opening up potential issues in lawsuits for head injuries. The NFL has a players union and collective bargaining and a limit on the number of different helmets a team can use in a season. College football has no players union, and some schools use several different helmets in a season.



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The specifics of what type of trial run will take place during bowl season are still to be determined by FBS conference administrators, including what kind of technology would be allowed, from in-helmet communication to wristband communication tools. It’s likely that both teams would need to agree to use such tools in a bowl, but whether they’d have to use the same technology is also to be determined. Many schools already use helmet or wristband technology in practice with their scout teams.

FBS conference football administrators are currently in the stage of gathering feedback from their coaches on preferences, one conference administrator told The Athletic. Another administrator-level call is scheduled this week.

“The rules of the road, we’re still setting up,” Shaw said of the bowl experiment. “Do both teams have to do it? Can they use different technologies? What if one team doesn’t want to use it? Dotting the I’s and crossing the T’s is still yet to be done.”


Multiple Big Ten sources told The Athletic that the Michigan allegations have fueled another push within the conference to enact these changes next season. The Big Ten also proposed the use of tablets on the sideline this summer, but that was not approved by the committee either.

If communication technology is used in bowl games and the feedback is positive, it could be proposed and approved on a much larger scale next year. Whether that’s conference-by-conference or division-by-division would be decided at that time.
 

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I thought that the “Autonomous Five” conferences could make their own rules.
Surely these wealthy conferences could implement comm devices and let the other schools alone.