Why have we gotten screw job after screw job by SEC refs
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They came out and said they messed up after memphis as well.
That being said, that was the first time I remember. Yeah we always get screwed. The sec refs just stuck. It's not just us.
How they let an Alabama players son?ref any Alabama game says it all
We used to get a lot of apologies for bad officiating. I always looked forward to them **
Does MSU get frequently screwed to the level that Auburn did?...like touchdowns are scored in us when there are clear penalties?
It seems like a lot of what the fan base complains about are no-calls for PI or holding...so very subjective calls where the angle and timing has to be right to see what happened.
Those no-calls are frustrating for sure. They also seem fundamentally different from the penalty OU should have gotten for the fake substitution.
It seems like a lot of what the fan base complains about are no-calls for PI or holding...so very subjective calls where the angle and timing has to be right to see what happened.
Those no-calls are frustrating for sure. They also seem fundamentally different from the penalty OU should have gotten for the fake substitution.
Not me! They were better than SEC officials. Anytime we get noncom games with SEC officials I hold my breath when a flag hits the turf!
Joe Lee Dunn told me that we had 40 holding calls against SEC opponents while they had 4. You tell me.
It is our demographic plain and simple. A mistake against an Alabama or Ohio State is blasted by ESPN ad nauseum because they are $. MSU, not so much. Even by SEC. How much time do we get in SEC season previews?
I don't think it's the occasional non-call that upsets our fans and basically the rest of the SEC. It's that AL and other highly moneyed shcools barely ever get called for anything, depending on the opponent. My understanding is that even the SEC office after the 2018 Alabama game with us privately conceded that AL was given "the benefit of doubt". To which it was replied , rightly, "benefit of doubt is bias." Maybe it will change since it seems AL is becoming less dominant, but I will have to see it to believe it.
As always, follow the money.
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Officials are human. There are a shortage of them. So what you're seeing is just simple human incompetence overall. Plus, humans tend to favor the perceived 'better' team, and also the home field.
That's really all there is to this. None of those officials are willing to give up their jobs and paycheck for homer reasons. All this stuff just happens.
That's really all there is to this. None of those officials are willing to give up their jobs and paycheck for homer reasons. All this stuff just happens.
Joe Lee Dunn last coached at MSU almost a quarter century ago.
Is this going to be a thread where people cant move on from perceived slights that happened before the current century?
Go back and watch 2017 and 2018 Alabama. 2017 cost us a trip to the citrus bowl. And 2018 was chock full of atrocious calls including the worst block in the back call in the history of football that cost us a score. And two fumbles that were ruled non fumbles thst resulted in two Alabama scores.
then there was the rare double SEC apology for the 21 Memphis game for two horrible calls in the same play.
So deflect rather than admit we were slighted? Not surprised. They call football a game of inches. One call can be the difference between a W or an L. Holding is the easiest call for an official to make to change the course of a game. They can simply say they missed the calls against the other team, or better yet, throw flags after said team is up a couple of touchdowns to even out the calls. Ultimately, the SEC is out to maximize revenue. They used to show the demographics on their website for teams to entice advertising. They dropped it years ago.
A retired NFL ref moved in down the street from us a few years ago. Even officiated a Super Bowl. He may have been a great official but he’s dumb as a rock. He can’t change a lightbulb. Nice guy. He’s got cases of Gatorade towels, said he got 2-3 at every game he worked.
I am not deflecting. I have no idea what game or season from over a quarter century you are referring to.
I had lunch with my golf buddies today, most of whom are Alabama fans. They were complaining that they get screwed over by the officials. I suppose it's a matter of perspective.
So we are talking about a comment from a coach about one undated season from over a quarter century ago, which cant be looked into or verified because there are no details.
Gotcha.
Well yeah, that is a large difference in holding calls. And yeah, MSU averaging 5 holding penalties per game seems high.
You have repeatedly offered up 0 actual info like even something as basic as what season it was, but sure- you convinced me. An unknown season from over a quarter century ago, where MSU was called for an average of 5 holding penalties per conference game vs only .5 for our opponents, has convinced me that refs are out to screw MSU.**
It was for either 2000 or 2001 and this was a personal conversation during a flight out of GTR to ATL. Coaches were not/ are not allowed to discuss officiating with the media. In fact, Jackie was suspended from coaching a game after he mailed a video to the SEC office with missed calls against Mississippi State. I know providing this is only going to result in you claiming plausible deniability. I could create less what you think. I'm just repeating what I was told by our Defensive Coordinator. I'm a lot more confident in what he said than a keyboard jockey in Kentucky.
I was wrong. They said they were but didn't. The SEC threatened suspending him in 2002 for publicly criticizing officials. They stopped short of suspending him for one game but that was the penalty at the time. He got in trouble before for accusing Auburn of inflating footballs with helium for their punter.
"Mythbusters" says helium doesn't make the ball go farther. I suppose Jackie was the inspiration for their investigation.