Why is 6-6 something UK football fans "strive" for.

What should Kentucky do with Stoops


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prospectcat

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6-6 is acceptable because Football just passes time for most UK fans who are Basketball first. I on the other hand want 12-0 every year and If we are not going to strive for that then shut the football program down, leave for another conference. I don't care what they choose just be straight forward and quit telling us fans they are trying.
 
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I'm not optimistic, but I wouldn't fire him midseason. Even if we were to lose to Vandy and Mississippi State and be sitting at 2-5, I'm not sure what a midseason firing would accomplish. Doubt we're going to make a home run hire right now (and I don't want Miles).
 
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It is kind of strange when you have such a large dedicated fan base in a state with no pro football, with donors and the money that can build better facilities better than most pro teams, in the best conference in the world that should only help a top recruiter sign 4 and 5 star players and so many other intangibles that offers opportunities that so many other places don't.

A coach that is a combo great recruiter and coach could build this place into another Oregon if there was one that had the desire. I hope Stoops can steadily improve the program each year but if he can't Barnhart should have already been pin pointing the best combo recruiting and coaching coaches in a pecking order EVERY year and at least be prepared to get the best one available from that pool. This job has proven to be no place for cutting teeth and up and coming coaches in a conference this tough.
 

UKvisitor_rivals101449

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If we go 6-6 and considering were we started this year verses last 2 years start, That is improvement. We go bowling and that gives hope for the next year. Sure beats going thru the whole new coach scenario.
 
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law1127

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There is/was absolutely no reason that UK could not be competitive in football,other than institutional bias/ incompetence,which the long suffering UK football fans has had to endure for 60 years! The current dissatisfaction with UK football,is the consequence of all the years of lip service to giving the fans a competitive team! The demise of attendance at games and subsequent loss of revenues,will be felt for many years,due to this mismanagement and UK will finally suffer what us paying fans have felt! An "empty feeling"!
 
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I didn't read all the other comments so forgive me if this has already been addressed, but I think the OP is misunderstanding the acceptance of a 6 win season by Kentucky fans. I don't know any Kentucky fans that would consider a 6 win season a win. I do however, know many Kentucky fans who feel that 6 wins is a good barometer of where the program is heading. I've said this before but it bears repeating. You've got to get to 6 wins before you can get to 8-9-10+.

Simply put, nobody wants to get hyped up and call this season a success if we get to 6 wins, but I do think that it would show that in 4 yrs, Stoops has started moving the needle in the right direction.

Pretty simply, really.
 

WildcatFan1982

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6-6 is simply a starting off point. Myself and many others were disappointed with the end of Brooks tenure because of this. Went 8-5 and beat a #1 team that ended up winning the title. We followed that up with 7-6 and then 7-6. Nick Saban went 7-6 his first season in Alabama. That isn't acceptable there. But damn did he improve on that. I don't want 6-6. 6-6 IS NOT OK. But it's a good jumping off point.
 

fuzz77

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Sep 19, 2012
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I would be completely fine with those win-loss totals, but I'm just talking about expectations more than the actual record. I would rather us shoot to actually be an upper level competitive SEC team and fall short and land at 6-6, than shoot for 6-6 as our ultimate goal. You're usually not going to hit your goal so when you have these mediocre expectations of a 6-6 record as our ultimate goal you're likely going to end up with 4 or 5 wins like we've gotten
When Brooks wasn't winning there were a lot of people who said that they would just be happy if we could get to 6-6. Then after winning 8 games two years in a row that fans were bitching when the record fell to 7 and 7 the last two years. Joker was named HCIW after the second of those 2 8 win seasons and everyone was happy because they thought we were going to build from there. Then when we only won 7 games the next two years, that is when the questioning of Joker began.
6 wins is a short term goal, not the ultimate goal. Crawl, walk, run. Once one goal is achieved it will immediately be replaced by a higher, loftier goal.
 

fuzz77

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It is kind of strange when you have such a large dedicated fan base in a state with no pro football, with donors and the money that can build better facilities better than most pro teams, in the best conference in the world that should only help a top recruiter sign 4 and 5 star players and so many other intangibles that offers opportunities that so many other places don't.

A coach that is a combo great recruiter and coach could build this place into another Oregon if there was one that had the desire. I hope Stoops can steadily improve the program each year but if he can't Barnhart should have already been pin pointing the best combo recruiting and coaching coaches in a pecking order EVERY year and at least be prepared to get the best one available from that pool. This job has proven to be no place for cutting teeth and up and coming coaches in a conference this tough.
You greatly overestimate the amount of money available, especially via donors. UK has exactly 1 alum that is a billionaire and while he has made some significant donations to UK, he has never donated at the level of other billionaires who give to their schools. Program changing money requires $10's and $100's of millions. Phil Knight has donated $100's of millions to Oregon athletics alone. In 2007 he donated $100 million, in 2010 he donated another $100 million, $68 million in 2013 and another $19 million last year. Knight has given away billions more to Stanford, Oregon academics and Oregon academics and the Oregon Health and Sciences University.

UK athletics largest single donation to date has been $6.5 million...
 

brianpoe

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OP expected 3-9, wonders why 6-6 and a bowl would be good after 6 straight losing seasons.

Offers poll with only one coaching candidate...


 

Stenchymouse

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We haven't been to a bowl in years...

6 wins to us is like making a BCS bowl to most other schools!