Why I've lost confidence in this staff...

Aug 22, 2012
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Most posters know that I have been on the Russell bandwagon from the get-go. I'll be the first to say that I was proud of how Prescott played yesterday. He keeps the ball too much on the read-option, but that's fixable with time. However, the issue has never been quarterback play (which is amazing to say as a State fan). The issue is coaching. We are completely unprepared to win. Period.

Example 1: No planning.

Think about this for a second. Is Russell a running threat? No. But Mullen and company have known he'd be their starter for at least two seasons since 2000 and 17ing NINE! They've had 3 seasons ('09, '10, & '11) to slowly tailor the offense to suit Russell. We're not talking about a complete overhaul. Just slowly introducing more pro-style formations and plays so that they had a suitable offense for Russell in 2012 & 2013. Did they do this? No, they just kept jamming that square peg in the round hole like a bunch of 17ing morons. On top of that, we foolishly burned Shumpert's redshirt so that he could carry the load against Alcorn High and get one 17ing carry against Auburn. Why? I have no 17ing clue.

It shows a complete lack of planning.

Example 2: Dumb game management. We leave points on the table (see 1st quarter extra point). We tighten up and play scared in tight games. Sometimes we win like that (UF '10) but most of the time it hurts us (last week). We either wasted timeouts by not using them in the first half (LSU '11) or throw them away like Saturday. We wasted a 4th quarter timeout trying to get Auburn to jump offsides in their own 17ing building (everyone in the stadium knew we wouldn't snap it). A timeout we could have used to reset our defense when they were gashing us on that last drive. We go for it on 4th down on our own 20 and then punt it when it's 4th and 2 on their 40. That back-and-forth crap is what someone in over their head does.

Bottom line, we get out-coached on almost every Saturday.

If this continues, he will lose the locker room and we'll have a post-2000 Sherrill situation on our hands. Let's not forget that we are 2-7 over our last nine. We can try and sugar coat it all we want, but beating Troy and Bowling Green is not going to change anything. We had a better team last Saturday and we lost. That was the one thing Mullen did (not lose to inferior teams) and now he doesn't do it anymore. If he doesn't turn it around, it's time to look somewhere else. We're paying him too much to do otherwise.
 

Fktdawg

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Most posters know that I have been on the Russell bandwagon from the get-go. I'll be the first to say that I was proud of how Prescott played yesterday. He keeps the ball too much on the read-option, but that's fixable with time. However, the issue has never been quarterback play (which is amazing to say as a State fan). The issue is coaching. We are completely unprepared to win. Period.

Example 1: No planning.

Think about this for a second. Is Russell a running threat? No. But Mullen and company have known he'd be their starter for at least two seasons since 2000 and 17ing NINE! They've had 3 seasons ('09, '10, & '11) to slowly tailor the offense to suit Russell. We're not talking about a complete overhaul. Just slowly introducing more pro-style formations and plays so that they had a suitable offense for Russell in 2012 & 2013. Did they do this? No, they just kept jamming that square peg in the round hole like a bunch of 17ing morons. On top of that, we foolishly burned Shumpert's redshirt so that he could carry the load against Alcorn High and get one 17ing carry against Auburn. Why? I have no 17ing clue.

It shows a complete lack of planning.

Example 2: Dumb game management. We leave points on the table (see 1st quarter extra point). We tighten up and play scared in tight games. Sometimes we win like that (UF '10) but most of the time it hurts us (last week). We either wasted timeouts by not using them in the first half (LSU '11) or throw them away like Saturday. We wasted a 4th quarter timeout trying to get Auburn to jump offsides in their own 17ing building (everyone in the stadium knew we wouldn't snap it). A timeout we could have used to reset our defense when they were gashing us on that last drive. We go for it on 4th down on our own 20 and then punt it when it's 4th and 2 on their 40. That back-and-forth crap is what someone in over their head does.

Bottom line, we get out-coached on almost every Saturday.

If this continues, he will lose the locker room and we'll have a post-2000 Sherrill situation on our hands. Let's not forget that we are 2-7 over our last nine. We can try and sugar coat it all we want, but beating Troy and Bowling Green is not going to change anything. We had a better team last Saturday and we lost. That was the one thing Mullen did (not lose to inferior teams) and now he doesn't do it anymore. If he doesn't turn it around, it's time to look somewhere else. We're paying him too much to do otherwise.


That part about losing the locker room may be inching closer than you think. In talking with one player, a key player at that..he's seriously thinking about leaving. And it's not just from/because of this one game.

idk if it's Mullen's arrogance, lack of head coaching eptitude or what it is but it's gotten way past old.

He literally hasn't beaten one good team. He's beaten big schools in really down years but we are not a threat to any of the big schools.
 

thunderclap

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I have 1 reason: everybody else plays like their hair is on fire, we don't...

the most important drive of the season and we sit in a 17ing prevent zone against a QB who has been on campus barely a month. When it matters, we are so 17ing scared to do anything than the most obvious, most expected thing on both offense and defense it's sickening. I swear to God I can't watch it anymore. Get ahead and run up the middle. Season on the line and we sit on our hands. Wake me up next year.
 

NCDawg.sixpack

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Aug 23, 2012
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A lot of those lower division OOC teams played us very close last year, and with a few breaks, could have won. I have no doubt Troy will give us all we can handle Saturday.
 

UIUCDog

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Agree with all this. We’re poorly coached, and we’ve recruited poorly.

We cannot fire Mullen this year barring 1-11, which won’t happen. We just can’t. But if things don’t turn around next year, I definitely think we should look at making a change.
 

dawgs.sixpack

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Agree with all this. We’re poorly coached, and we’ve recruited poorly.

We cannot fire Mullen this year barring 1-11, which won’t happen. We just can’t. But if things don’t turn around next year, I definitely think we should look at making a change.

sad to say, but i could see us losing to all of kentucky, bowling green, and troy. i doubt we lose to all of them, but would anyone be all that surprised if we lost at least 1 of them? after that, i guess we might have a shot at arkansas, but otherwise, there's not really a game i look at as a good chance of winning. and even arkansas, we might have quit by then.
 

maroonmania

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the most important drive of the season and we sit in a 17ing prevent zone against a QB who has been on campus barely a month. When it matters, we are so 17ing scared to do anything than the most obvious, most expected thing on both offense and defense it's sickening. I swear to God I can't watch it anymore. Get ahead and run up the middle. Season on the line and we sit on our hands. Wake me up next year.

I really wonder if that was strictly on Collins or if Mullen got into the defensive strategy? I mean on that last Auburn drive our defense was as far away from "mayhem" as you could possibly be.
 

NCDawg.sixpack

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sad to say, but i could see us losing to all of kentucky, bowling green, and troy. i doubt we lose to all of them, but would anyone be all that surprised if we lost at least 1 of them? after that, i guess we might have a shot at arkansas, but otherwise, there's not really a game i look at as a good chance of winning. and even arkansas, we might have quit by then.

Not sure about any of them, except Bowling Green. We should beat them. Doubt if any of the teams we play from here on out are worse than Auburn.
 

fishwater99

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Not sure about any of them, except Bowling Green. We should beat them. Doubt if any of the teams we play from here on out are worse than Auburn.

Seriously? Arkansas has no offense at all, UK is horrible. We finish 5-7 with a loss to the Bears...
 

RocketDawg

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Oct 21, 2011
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BG got beat pretty bad by Indiana this weekend, and Troy doesn't appear to be all that great either. They barely beat UAB and trampled Savannah State, so no big wins.

Kentucky didn't look all that bad against Louisville, especially initially.

I think we beat all of them though. Other than Arkansas, it doesn't look good. So either 5-7 or 4-8 ... barring some miracle. I think Dan promised we'd not lose to the Bears again ....
 

BriantheDawg

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How anybody can mark down Arkansas as a W is beyond me. We are not going into the state of Arkansas and winning a football game. Period. The end.

We are a 4 & 8 team if I ever saw one. We blow.
 

CadaverDawg

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I don't understand why everyone can say Mullen is headed down hill, yet so many say "but we can't fire him this year". Makes no sense to me. Why can't we? Because most teams don't? That's a ****** reason. If we know it's headed down hill and we have what looks to be a great coach wanting the job...why should we wait? Screw what everyone else says in the media....if we have this type of talent and the excitement of a new coach, we won't miss a beat by doing it with the cupboard full rather than tanking 2 years before it's done.

maybe I'm wrong though.
 

patdog

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I don't think anyone is marking that down as a sure win. But Arkansas is not better than Auburn and it's just as ridiculous to mark it down as a sure loss.
 

BriantheDawg

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No it's not. We have never won at Arkansas. Ever. It's not like this is our best team ever and this is Arkansas' worst team ever. They may not be that good this year, but neither are we. All things being equal - I'll go with history & say we will not have won in the state of Arkansas after this season is over. I just find it amazing that some people have this game marked down as a W when A.) we aren't any better than them & B.) we've never won there, ever.
 

patdog

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You do realize the past has absolutely nothing at all to do with this game, don't you? Most years, Arkansas did have the better team when we lost up there. How many times have we lost to them in Arkansas when we've had the better team? Very few and maybe not any. This looks like their worst team in a long time that we've played them there. There's no reason we shouldn't be able to win this game.
 

thf24

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No it's not. We have never won at Arkansas. Ever. It's not like this is our best team ever and this is Arkansas' worst team ever. They may not be that good this year, but neither are we. All things being equal - I'll go with history & say we will not have won in the state of Arkansas after this season is over. I just find it amazing that some people have this game marked down as a W when A.) we aren't any better than them & B.) we've never won there, ever.

I am sick and 17ing tired of hearing this ******** that "we've never won in Arkansas so we won't this year". They've only been in the league since 1990, so we've played them far fewer times than anyone else in the West other than A&M, and they've been better than us most of those years. We might very well lose to them this year, but if we do, it won't have jack **** to do with any games played before this season. If never beating a team in its home state before is valid reasoning as to why we won't this year, we might as well just forfeit every other year until the end of time and save ourselves the trip.
 

RocketDawg

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You do realize the past has absolutely nothing at all to do with this game, don't you? Most years, Arkansas did have the better team when we lost up there. How many times have we lost to them in Arkansas when we've had the better team? Very few and maybe not any. This looks like their worst team in a long time that we've played them there. There's no reason we shouldn't be able to win this game.

Do you think this team is worse than they were last year, or just the worst that we have played in the state of Arkansas? As an aside ... why did Arkansas hire Biliema (how ever it's spelled) for over $3M? Is he supposed to be that good of a coach? He doesn't look so great so far this year. BTW ... I think we have a good chance to win the game. We really don't look all that bad, especially with Dak at QB. And hopefully the defense is better than they showed at Auburn since they looked pretty good in the first two games.
 

LavishDawg

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the most important drive of the season and we sit in a 17ing prevent zone against a QB who has been on campus barely a month. When it matters, we are so 17ing scared to do anything than the most obvious, most expected thing on both offense and defense it's sickening. I swear to God I can't watch it anymore. Get ahead and run up the middle. Season on the line and we sit on our hands. Wake me up next year.

Took the words right of my mouth.
 

Philly Dawg

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It will be interesting to see how we bounce back, but I tend to disagree. Those teams had a chance last year because of our defense. It is much improved this year.

I thought we handled the spread and uptempo offence better than we ever have on Saturday, although our secondary is young and still has some yips in it. I don't see us having the same types of problems with these teams this year.

You do raise a good point. Except for the elite teams, there is only a very fine line between winning and losing. Right now, we are in many ways playing better than last year, but a few mistakes here and there, and a few chances not taken here and there, have made us lose games that we might have won last year.
 

DAWG61

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I don't understand why everyone can say Mullen is headed down hill, yet so many say "but we can't fire him this year". Makes no sense to me. Why can't we? Because most teams don't? That's a ****** reason. If we know it's headed down hill and we have what looks to be a great coach wanting the job...why should we wait? Screw what everyone else says in the media....if we have this type of talent and the excitement of a new coach, we won't miss a beat by doing it with the cupboard full rather than tanking 2 years before it's done.

maybe I'm wrong though.

That's how the world works. You don't FIRE people because you think you see what's going to happen. That cupboard you say is "full" is that way because Mullen got the groceries. That stadium is getting enclosed because of Mullen. That sellout streak is still going because of Mullen. That QB committ everyone is excited about is Mullen's. How about instead of firing the most successful coach MSU has EVER had we actually give him money to hire the best assistants he needs. And get rid of Bracky. Do those two things and see the results first before firing Mullen. How much is Mullen's buyout? A lot. Take half or a quarter of that and actually hire a top 5 offensive coordinator. Why is that so difficult? Atleast one of the big boys does this every year. LSU hired Cam Cameron this year. Get off the fire Mullen tour and let's actually bring in a bad *** OC the same mold as Kliff Kingsbury who was an OC just last year. Oh and fire Bracky. 2 things.