Why Replace The Coliseum??
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who said anything about replacing Coliseum? With the new upgrades taking place soon, they will only need to keep it fresh to have it relevant for years to come.
Now Milan Puskar Stadium on the other hand needs to go
Now Milan Puskar Stadium on the other hand needs to go
Because the new road is going right through the Gold Gate in order to save the Arboretum.
I have a long "love" affair with this building. It looks terrific all lit up at night and the interior shots on TV are the best in the business. While it was being built I snuck in and climbed to the very top and out onto the roof. It is a great view. I can't imagine a better venue... perhaps a more glitzy one but not in keeping with the legacy and atmosphere that the coliseum offers.
With all of the upgrades, Why would Milan Puskar need to go? It's easily expandable. Parking? Use eminent domain and expand the property.
The biggest issue for the present stadium is that it sits on ground that Ruby wants.
Hmm where to start. These are just my opinion
MPS is an outdated piece of crap that can't be saved by expanding the concourses a few feet. I have seen better looking press boxes at high schools. The only way to make things better bring down the east and west concourses and start from scratch and greatly expand the footprint of the stadium. Build a brand new expanded press box and associated, sky luxury boxes The problem with that is you can't go any further toward the law hill without the entire hill being removed.
I understand your viewpoint, but at today's prices it would cost at least $500 million to do it right. Some big time donors would have to step up. Where would you build it? I'm picturing Boone Pickens Stadium as what you may have in mind, would that be close?
I totally get it, if only I had won that 1.5 billion dollar lottery. I doubt I will see a new stadium in my life time, unless the hospital wants to pay a ton of money to take the location over
I've attended many games at the Coliseum. Seats are OK. Everything else is a bit bland, but OK. However, IF....and I said IF....they replaced it with a new arena, I'd definitely cut down on the capacity. My reasoning is that big is not always better. Right now it seats approximately 14,000? I'd cut it back to 10,000 or 11,000. Makes tickets harder, more competition for them, creating more of a "need" to go to the games, and on the occasion there are games of 8,000-9,000, it's still packed.
Look at Oregon's football stadium. If you watch a game, you'd swear the attendance is in the 70,000 or 80,000 range. But capacity is something like 56,000.
I'd do the same for the next football stadium we get. No need to try and keep up with all the others and increase the capacity.
Look at Oregon's football stadium. If you watch a game, you'd swear the attendance is in the 70,000 or 80,000 range. But capacity is something like 56,000.
I'd do the same for the next football stadium we get. No need to try and keep up with all the others and increase the capacity.
Yes. I like it, however, it feels like when you walk in that you are in a basement. Just not an atmosphere for the modern times. But, it's not bad.
A ton of money has been and is being spent to bring everything that affects the players up to very nice standards, including the field itself. Concrete can always be covered with a facade, as Boone Pickens was. Pressboxes can be redesigned and built. The stadium seating is expandable if it becomes necessary. I do like that when you enter the stadium you're halfway, going up or down. Lane Stadium at VT is horrible. I'm on the side of waiting to see what it looks like when current renovations are finished.
WVU Hospitals does NOT want to expand towards the stadium. WVU Hospitals is in fact building a number of clinics and facilities across Mon County and surrounding areas for the express purpose of decentralizing its various services.
I agree. Maybe cut down the number of seats to around 11,000 and add luxury boxes but I hope the Coliseum is around as long as I'm alive. It's a historical WVU landmark. I would rather see millions go into renovation instead of a new area being built.
With over $100 million being spent on the coliseum and stadium, I do not understand all of the hate being expressed toward them. In two years, all of the current renovations, expansions and improvements will be finished. Why not identify further realistic needs that can form a consensus and make further improvements where needed? If the stadium needs a new pressbox, build it. If the current one simply needs remodeled, do it.
The current facilities at WVU have a very appealing shape and outline. Refine it, don't tear it down. If it were ever needed, Milan Puskar could seat 75,000.
The current facilities at WVU have a very appealing shape and outline. Refine it, don't tear it down. If it were ever needed, Milan Puskar could seat 75,000.
You are correct about entering the stadium, and plans to modernize the front will be a plus. If done correctly, rebuilding the pressbox with Luxury sky boxes that expand the length of the filed would help.
The changes to cover up the battle ship grey walls surrounding the filed was like putting lipstick on a pig. Lips are different but it still looks like a pig.
I am not smart enough to figure out what needs to happen to make it better, but I hope something is done.
Some valid points. However as stated, you can't renovate the press box, it needs torn down and rebuilt with added sky boxes. The high school look and size of the press box is one of the reason the stadium looks drab.With over $100 million being spent on the coliseum and stadium, I do not understand all of the hate being expressed toward them. In two years, all of the current renovations, expansions and improvements will be finished. Why not identify further realistic needs that can form a consensus and make further improvements where needed? If the stadium needs a new pressbox, build it. If the current one simply needs remodeled, do it.
The current facilities at WVU have a very appealing shape and outline. Refine it, don't tear it down. If it were ever needed, Milan Puskar could seat 75,000.
Unless the population of WV stops shrinking and starts growing there will never be a need to increase capacity.
Just curious, is this an opinion, or are you on the Hospital board and know for a fact, they don't want to expand toward the stadium?
Boone Pickens Stadium was built in 1920. The 'lipstick' looks good! It seats 60,000
It does look great.
It had an upgrade around 2003 for 260 million. In the construction world of finances that would be around 500 million today. Really...at the time they could have built a new stadium. Our stadium doesn't have the character of theirs so endlessly putting lipstick on it might not be the best what to go.
I think it's fairly common knowledge that at one time in the not too distant past it was considered by the powers-that-be that the possibility of building a new stadium elsewhere so that the hospital could expand was an option that was give some degree of serious consideration.
But .... you haven't really heard of that discussion the last year or two and .... plans to improve the existing stadium have been announced and have already been acted upon. And, as already stated, other medical clinics and facilities are being built elsewhere.
It just seems like the idea of building a new stadium is something that has come and gone. Just keep improving the one we have. It will do just fine for years.
Point taken.
They actually did build a new stadium.
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I guess that point wasn't expressed very well in my post.
They actually did build a new stadium.
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I guess that point wasn't expressed very well in my post.
It's technically the same stadium, but they 'virtually' built a new stadium in the same spot. Can you imagine those steel beams supporting the decks? At least Puskar has a concrete base to build onto. The protruding concession areas actually give a creative architect room as well as a solid base to work with. I would love to see renderings of what could be done. Regardless, I think we agree the pressbox needs to be replaced when current renovations are finished.
Do you really call this 'character? The place was a dump.
[When was that picture taken, because it is not the stadium before recent construction. What is there and what they have now are two different stadiums. The seating has been completely redone going from 1 tier to 3. I could live with that change, but again they basically took down what was there and built it brand new. That is NOT putting lipstick on a pig, like WVU is doing.
I have to say it is not technically the same stadium, but a rebuilt stadium in the same location. The seating went from 1 large tier on both sides, to a reduced main tier, with two more above. Except for maybe a few foundation pillars in the ground, you would be hard pressed to find anything left from the old stadium.
Picky, picky, picky! [laughing] Anyone remember Pat Paulson from Rowan and Martin's Laugh-in during the early 70s?
Yep, my 20 year plan would be to keep upgrading the Coliseum as an historic icon but I'm thinking there might be a great new place in the long run for a new football stadium. The Coliseum has beautiful curb appeal, great on the inside except for weird changes for student seating which results in 3 great location empty rows. Why is there never enough restrooms?
In a 20 year plan, wouldn't it be great to get more room for both the hospital campus and a football stadium. A football version of the baseball stadium would be great. Is there enough room over there for a huge football complex? Easy ingress/egress of I79? How about an aerial tram from the Engineering PRT station high across the Mon to that location....wouldn't that be awesome!
Other locations for a 20 year plan stadium? Take over the Morgantown airport location & upgrade routes to I68 via Sabraton & Glenmark area, along back route to downtown campus and 705 to Evansdale campus?? Take over the WVU farm? South of town somewhere?
In a 20 year plan, wouldn't it be great to get more room for both the hospital campus and a football stadium. A football version of the baseball stadium would be great. Is there enough room over there for a huge football complex? Easy ingress/egress of I79? How about an aerial tram from the Engineering PRT station high across the Mon to that location....wouldn't that be awesome!
Other locations for a 20 year plan stadium? Take over the Morgantown airport location & upgrade routes to I68 via Sabraton & Glenmark area, along back route to downtown campus and 705 to Evansdale campus?? Take over the WVU farm? South of town somewhere?
What is a billion $$ when we are going to make all that money from B12N.
kay:Fill in Cheat Lake and build the football stadium there. It's an unsightly hole in the ground full of stagnant water, good only for breeding mosquito's.
No, I didn't think it would be that much. I like Baylor's new stadium. I looked it up on the net...it said it cost $250M. In the same article it mentioned Stanford's new stadium cost $90 M. How much did the new beautiful baseball stadium cost? If a similar new football stadium that is 10 times bigger cost 10 times as much, it seems like it could work as an improved long term plan.
A new stadium
A new stadium