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Why the Big 12 has an issue with Houston joining the conference | Tilman Fertitta
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Get lost, band fruit. Anybody who brings up penis size on a sports message board should be pi$$ed on, just like you were in band camp (golden) showers.
The biggest problem with Houston joining the conference is they don't bring in any new markets. There are already 3 big 12 teams in Texas. All three have their games broadcasted in Houston. There isn't a slam dunk for the big 12 to invite. All the new additions will have their potential drawbacks. Houston has been vocal for years about wanting a power 5 slot. If they were really that valuable someone would have already gobbled them up.
Get a clue. Nobody likes you. See you at tailgate and going Mike Tyson on you.
More JV posting from turd boy. Thankfully most people don't read your horseshit.
Houston is an interesting possibility. Great city for recruiting. Huge market. The school is R1 in research classification. They have newer very nice facilities and a commitment to sports with a strong potential.
Used to be a power school in the Southwest conference.
But the BIG 12 has 3 Texas schools in hand.
To me though, Houston's TV numbers probably put them over the top:
Used to be a power school in the Southwest conference.
But the BIG 12 has 3 Texas schools in hand.
To me though, Houston's TV numbers probably put them over the top:
- NC State (703K)
- Arizona State (695K)
- Syracuse (694K)
- Houston (689K)
- Kansas State (682K)
- Maryland (681K)
- Purdue (620K)
- Georgia Tech (615K)
Maybe you need to get your head out of the sand. I don't care how much of a "knowledgeable diehard" you think you are. You are like those so called diehards having a half off sale on "I hate WVU" T-shirts. Maybe you should pick a few up for your friends.
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First, allow me to state that I have no animosity against any school except Pitt. I guess that's kind of a rule, right? I really have no preference as to which schools the Big 12 may add. However, WVU has an average major broadcast of 1.27 million as an outlier from the Big 12 and that would no doubt increase significantly playing in an Eastern conference against several former rivals.
Yet all I read is that WVU doesn't move the needle for a P5 conference, for lack of viewership. Although their current viewership outranks every ACC team except Clemson, FSU and just barely Miami. Here is a list of every school I can think of that may want to join the Big 12 and their 5 yr average major broadcast viewing numbers:
I really don't have a dog in this fight, but which of these schools are most likely to end up breaking the million mark in average viewership? Does your team have a stadium of at least 50K or would they expand to one? Do they also do well in basketball?
Just things to consider when your president and AD are sitting before a committee answering questions relative to joining a higher ranked conference. The Big 12 teams cannot afford to support another school even temporarily. You have to carry your own weight. I hope this is helpful, I meant well.
Yet all I read is that WVU doesn't move the needle for a P5 conference, for lack of viewership. Although their current viewership outranks every ACC team except Clemson, FSU and just barely Miami. Here is a list of every school I can think of that may want to join the Big 12 and their 5 yr average major broadcast viewing numbers:
- Utah (856K)
- BYU (714K)
- Houston (689K)
- UCF (566K)
- Memphis (564K)
- Boise State (476K)
- Cincinnati (430K)
- USF (407K)
- SMU (232K)
I really don't have a dog in this fight, but which of these schools are most likely to end up breaking the million mark in average viewership? Does your team have a stadium of at least 50K or would they expand to one? Do they also do well in basketball?
Just things to consider when your president and AD are sitting before a committee answering questions relative to joining a higher ranked conference. The Big 12 teams cannot afford to support another school even temporarily. You have to carry your own weight. I hope this is helpful, I meant well.
Had to laugh. If the remaining tiny 8 schools don't support some expansion schools for a while then there will no conference left. Lol.
How do you pay child support with breadcrumbs? I expect there will indeed be no conference left as of July 1, 2030.
So an estmated 20 to 24 million a year without ok and tx is breadcrumbs? Would you prefer wvu become the byu of the east lol?
No, Rootmaster. I don't have an answer and I know there are a couple of schools that could really blossom if someone just gave them a shot with the big boys. How do you choose 2 or 4 out of that list with any certainty or even hope? Can you pick 2 of them for immediate entry? And 2 more for an entry effective 2025?
Two more things. How did Utah get in there? LOL And would you hold OK and UT to page 4, section 8 of the GoR? It looks pretty airtight to me and that is worth $196 million in income for WVU if we just keep playing for 4 more years. I don't think adding 2 would screw that up.
Two more things. How did Utah get in there? LOL And would you hold OK and UT to page 4, section 8 of the GoR? It looks pretty airtight to me and that is worth $196 million in income for WVU if we just keep playing for 4 more years. I don't think adding 2 would screw that up.
Did you guys know the intimidating nickname of the Utah sports teams is 'Utes"? That's like 'youths' in New York! I wonder if they ever heard of the Poca Dots in West Virginia. No offense to anyone from Utah. If you're from Poca I don't like you anyway! Anyone else drink Vodka? Old folks have to have our little night time 'toddy'.
They are looking for schools that have the ability to grow
Utah was brought in because they were a state that is expanding. Had decent success and connect Colorado to the Pacific pretty much. Not much there in Nevada really.
Pac 12 made the decision
But Big 12 is looking for a bunch of Utah’s.
Starting in growing states that have room in the CFB market is the best start
UCF is interesting because Orlando doesn’t have NFL but Gainesville isn’t too far away.
Utah was brought in because they were a state that is expanding. Had decent success and connect Colorado to the Pacific pretty much. Not much there in Nevada really.
Pac 12 made the decision
But Big 12 is looking for a bunch of Utah’s.
Starting in growing states that have room in the CFB market is the best start
UCF is interesting because Orlando doesn’t have NFL but Gainesville isn’t too far away.
Native tribe…
Guess people don’t have an issue with them using it.
That is where the Utes comes from
Nice trivia. Did you know there is actually a high school in WV called the Poca Dots? Poca is a shortened version of the name Pocatalico, which is a Native American word meaning "river of fat deer." Its original mascot was an American Indian riding upon a white horse.
It was built in 1922 and the first year graduated 11 students. It has since moved twice and the current location has been expanded and remodeled a couple of times. It is a class AA school in athletics with just over 600 students.
In 1928 a local sportswriter called them the Dots and the name was adopted by the Putnam Count School Board. That's proof to me that people got high even back then!
Maybe we all need to watch this small time sports blogger's take on the current situation with the Big 12:
What is weird is horses weren’t around until the Spanish brought them.
Deer are native but not horses.
Some of the tribes took to them quick and become powerful. Sometimes the weak adjust faster than the strong because they have to
WVU needs to hold onto this mentality
Make the needed changes and get a seat
This is going to get nasty and expensive before the smoke clears. Right now there are 8 schools with nothing to lose and two schools who could lose up to half a billion dollars together. I'm not exaggerating, the bylaws for early exit and the GoR are totally separate.
But ESPN holds the keys because they can always extend the contract of the Big 12.
Without the Big 12 the question becomes where else
ESPN for the most part controls the door to all the G5 conference. Some have other media partners but for the most part ESPN is involved in CFB from the bottom to the top.
A school can always leave and join a power conference but the issue as of right now is these other conferences aren’t trying to expand.
At the end of the day WVU just has to take care of their own needs.
That is winning and bringing eyeballs to the television
A one time windfall of $50 million wouldn't hurt any of the 8. Right now, WVU and the others have to increase the number of eyeballs they can garner. The way to do that is winning. Keep winning and good things will happen. Especially with P5 opponents. Even more especially OOC, during the season or in a bowl. Be relevant.
Short term vs Long term
If that 50 million cost the University 5-10 million in revenue per year than 5-10 years later you are losing.
Right now that is leverage more than anything. Matters how quick ESPN wants those schools in the SEC.
What people are saying it might be after this year
It's going to be interesting like a mystery novel you just can't put down. There may be twists and turns that make many of us say, "Oh, hell no!" Yet some things may happen that make us suddenly smile from ear to ear. Kind of like when WVU destroyed Clemson for me or when Houston beat Oklahoma for you. Somebody high five me! LOL
Do you ever sleep?
Just what we need. Another Tejas school with a blow hard billionaire running his mouth. Tell Mr. Frito to FO. BYU and stay at nine. Pick up a another quality OOC team for strength of schedule and let the chips fall.
I was talking to a Houston fan and being polite. Don't we also have a blowhard billionaire at the Greenbrier using the Governor's Mansion as a motel room? Context is everything and two people with mostly opposing views can disagree in a pleasant fashion.
Yes, we are obsessive, compulsive, and addicted WVU sports fans. But there is more to life that we have to prioritize. We are going to beat Maryland aren't we? My stomach is already in knots about Saturday!
Are you seriously so loony all the time? Oh wait I remember you are an anti Christian bigot.
There is debate if Mormons are actually Christians
So I wouldn’t say he is anti Christian as much as anti BYU
BYU is one of the schools who present a decent resume if Big 12 decides to expand
But if they cut into the revenue for the other schools the conference will stay at 8 and adopt a model similar to what the Sun Belt has
It has been pretty good for that conference
So I wouldn’t say he is anti Christian as much as anti BYU
BYU is one of the schools who present a decent resume if Big 12 decides to expand
But if they cut into the revenue for the other schools the conference will stay at 8 and adopt a model similar to what the Sun Belt has
It has been pretty good for that conference
BYU and Mormons are not Christians.
Sunbelt has 10 teams. Big 12 should increase by 2. Houston should not be 1 of them. I've changed my stance on BYU as they would be best available. You either have to choose UCF or Cincinnati to join with them.
But really does anyone want to gamble on joining the Big 12 not knowing if it crumbles after 2025?
You've gone looney. Take your Bugs Bunny show to clown *** Texas board. FRAUDWho invited the Jehovah Witnesses
I still and won’t change my mind on byu. Still think stay at 8. At least 6 of the 8 will be in a power4 conference soon.
Allen you’re about the only one that regularly posts that I see anymore. All the others I have put on ignore, lol.
If that's truly the case, then you should just save time, and give Allen a call and talk football on the phone. I'm sure he would look forward to talking to you.
Maybe not to you and the other snake handling Sunday holy rollers but to the world Mormans are Christians. Haven't you learned anything yet at Slagheap Hollow middle school?
False again. Perhaps you should educate yourself and quit being a dick just to start ****. Your liberal political motivations are wrong. Mormons follow Joseph Smith a man. He formed Mormonism and the Latter Day Saint movement. When he was 24, Smith published the Book of Mormon. ... In 1830, Smith published what he said was an English translation of these plates called the Book of Mormon.
Joseph Smith looked extensively to John Bunyan for inspiration to write the Book of Mormon which many believe when he wrote the book of mormon he plagiarized Bunyan and the Pilgrims Progress.
Read a book once in awhile. If you can actually read.
I suppose you and the elders at the Slagheap Hollow Snake Handlers Church don't consider Catholics Christians either? Did you guys ever move your services from that WW1 surplus tent yet?