So, since Tennessee and even probation southern cal (aren't comparable to Kentucky, it's just for the attention.
Brohm, Tubberville, Fleck, even Briles for winning at Baylor are all head and shoulders better decisions.
Why UK needs Lane Kiffin! And he needs UK?
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So, since Tennessee and even probation southern cal (aren't comparable to Kentucky, it's just for the attention.
Brohm, Tubberville, Fleck, even Briles for winning at Baylor are all head and shoulders better decisions.
Look, he's making up quotes and attributing them to me again because he looks stupid. For the 27th time, I never said it was insignificant, I said it was 3% to 4% of the yearly budget. That is significant, let me type that again since you struggle with comprehension, that is significant but very doable. See not insignificant or puny, it is what it is, 3% to 4% of the yearly athletics budget.
If it's just 4% then they should just do it as it's a small amount but then why have buyouts if they are that doable ? That is interesting isn't it . Remember all the talk about Petrino being locked into UK with a buyout ? Apparently it would be no deterrent at all , in fact none of the buyouts are of any significance at that % . The ACC panicked during conference realignment scares and had their members agree to a 25 mill dollar buyout should they leave . Why that's doable and nothing of note if it constitutes a single digit percentage of their budgets , which one could assume is competitive with UK's .
Somethings not adding up here , maybe their budget has fixed operating expenses and a buyout is not included . It's doable but once you get past money already allocated then it would take up a far greater percentage of the budget . Again I'm not the moron running around acting like its this tiny percentage as if there are no other expenditures and you can take his buyout off the top . Doing it that way is the stupid way to financing and makes a mockery of every buyout in sports . But hey you should hold a seminar to show colleges how a buyout is but a tiny percentage of their budget . Then maybe they would raise buyouts to a significant amount to keep their coaches .
I have a rule against arguing with illogical people which means that I don't argue with women, and I'm gonna let you go too.
I can't believe there's a human that thinks 4% is significant , how stupid are you ? You say it's only 4% and then say it's significant [laughing]
Yea that last post didn't go so well did it , tough questions . Bye
If you haven't noticed, the best coaches ARE a holes... Sign me up for a giant douchebag!!!
It's significant but very doable. I'm not sure why again, this is so hard for you to comprehend. This is like that time I told you that his buyout was 4% of the yearly budget and you didn't get it for like 2 days and questioned my math. Now you see how dumb that was and fully accept it. Maybe this will only take you 2 days to comprehend as well.
LOL some people are allergic to learning lessons. which is why UK will probably hire Kiffin and the sh*t storm will just keep on circling commonwealth.
I thought you were done , musta got upset . It's not my fault you came on here to tell everybody it was only 4% , that is a small percentage . Then turn around and claim it's significant , your dumb contradictory problem . Single digit percentage of anything is not a significant amount . You're not going to get the contradiction but anger will none the less bring you back , see you then .
Kiffin is a major douchebag.
That said he is a very good recruiter.
If he brought his brother, who is not only a good dline coach but Ole Miss recruiting coordinator they could bring in some great players.
(Snark would replace Kiffin at OC at Bama if Lane were to leave, imo)
Good recruiting at least on par with current staff, along with a high powered offense and a real dline.....?
How would that compare with what we have today?
Not sure that Kiffin would ever sniff this job, but it is more feasible than all of the NFL coaches who would leave the LEAGUE to come here, as well as Strong at Texas, Houston's coach, Southern Cal's coach etc, etc.
That said he is a very good recruiter.
If he brought his brother, who is not only a good dline coach but Ole Miss recruiting coordinator they could bring in some great players.
(Snark would replace Kiffin at OC at Bama if Lane were to leave, imo)
Good recruiting at least on par with current staff, along with a high powered offense and a real dline.....?
How would that compare with what we have today?
Not sure that Kiffin would ever sniff this job, but it is more feasible than all of the NFL coaches who would leave the LEAGUE to come here, as well as Strong at Texas, Houston's coach, Southern Cal's coach etc, etc.
You're right, facts don't change. Once again you prove you've never run a business. If you have a surplus, splurging and spending an additional 4% of your budget on an unexpected project is probably doable. Your problem is you act like 4% of UK's budget is just laying around unallocated. It is not. UK is cutting 6 million from its budget to cover a shortfall. http://www.kentucky.com/news/local/education/article80119167.html
UK can't afford it.
The annual budget of my little business is about 1 million. What you're saying is that I could just cough up 40K like its nothing. You're out of your mind with ignorance.
What does that have to do with the UK Athletics budget? You do realize that the athletics department has its own budget, right?
No that's not what I'm saying, that's your strawman argument. There are different variables, 4% means a lot of different things to a lot of different people. I have said possibly 20 times that it's a significant amount of money, but if something was costing your business 4% of your revenue or more it's something you have to consider.
Don't "What your saying is" me and attribute some bs quote to me. Go find someone smarter than you and ask them what I meant if you don't understand it.
What's so low about Kiffin? So he left jobs for potentially better opportunities. While he may have been misguided in his younger coaching days, at least he's ambitious. He can recruit, runs a proven offense, and has ties to bring in big time/knowledgeable assistants.
However, he would likely never entertain an offer because Barnhart has his list of candidates and Kiffin is on the one above it.
However, he would likely never entertain an offer because Barnhart has his list of candidates and Kiffin is on the one above it.
I'm not saying Kiffin would be good or bad, truth is I don't really know. What I do know is, hiring him wouldn't get me excited about the future of the program and right now that is what we need, something to look forward to. Could just be me though.
You thought UK owed Stoops one lump payment if he was fired but now you're an expert.
I think there is a big difference between Kiffin and Petrino from an ethics view. Petrino used university resources to hire an unqualified lady for a job in the athletics department so that he could continue an adulterous affair. When Petrino was caught riding around with her on a bike, he lied to authorities including the AD in an effort to cover up the affair. On the other hand, Kiffin dumped the Vols to go to USC. I don't have a problem with Kiffin's behavior, but it seems there is a widely held perception that Kiffin is a bad person. I'm not sure why people hate him so much.
Call me before you burn, I'd like to pick through like a yard sale deal :fire:
Art Briles 2017 UK [thumb2]
Let's get Briles first then hire Kiffin as OC :americanflag: watch out SEC East :airplane:
I don't care about Lane Kiffin's personality short comings but his experiences as a head coach don't exactly sell him. Sure he's doing great as a coordinator at Alabama but I'm pretty sure a hobo at the bus stop could coach the Alabama allstars into a touchdown.
I am tiring of seeing this argument posed as one where we either spend the money or we don't. we are spending either way. if you keep stoops and he continues to disappoint you will continue to see ongoing revenue reductions. I posted earlier how we never recovered the season ticket sales lost since the joker hire. an offset to this was jacking up prices. you can't pull that trick again w the same success as there are no more major renovations to unveil. so the choice is (buyout)4% a year for 3 yrs or say (keep him he fails) 2% a year for 15 years or (keep him he succeeds) 1 chance in 20 of no % increase. barney will play for the 1 in 20 but the dumbass will suffer the 2% for 15.
Ethics roll call:
Kiffin: douchebag, breaks minor NCAA rules
Petrino: douchebag, hires his mistress
Briles: covers up sexual assaults
Kiffin: douchebag, breaks minor NCAA rules
Petrino: douchebag, hires his mistress
Briles: covers up sexual assaults
Kiffin is learning from one of the greatest coaches of all time. He has head coaching experience and he is a darn good recruiter. Working for Saban has to be a good learning experience for him to see things that he had done wrong as a head coach. I wouldn't mind him coaching here but I don't see that happening. Mitch will make a random hire and we will cross that bridge when we get there. All of these big names won't want this job. Mitch gambled with a coach that other schools weren't calling but had a good resume as a coordinator. It hasn't worked out and doesn't look like it will either. It's extremely important that he doesn't let this drag out to long or the harsh cycle we have all experienced in the past will just start all over.
false. you have no proof of this. you're alleging a crime, he's been charged with none.
Call me crazy, but I just don't see Kiffin leaving as OC at Alabama and coming as OC at UK.
All we gotta do is ask first and give him more, if it don't work that's ok. At least we are trying to win :football:
Still no reason as to how Kiffin would succeed at UK. Just excuses and assumptions. We don't even know how good of a recruiter he really is, he's recruited at Tennessee/southern cal and Alabama.
He's working under one of the greatest coaches of all time. Plus prior coaching experience and
he is a young coach. You would have to make assumptions about any coach you discuss until they show up on campus and coach ball games lol Coaches won't be begging for this job when it opens up. Have to make the best of what is available and willing to come here. I don't think Kiffin would want this job.
LOL.... He's had a 10-2 record in a season as a head coach and has a national championship ring for his work as an offensive coordinator. Southern Cal was on probation when he was there. Resume' isn't that bad. Stoops has really been impressive here hasn't he? Lol
I doubt that . I'm pretty sure he thinks he's smarter than Saban and Alabama would be better with himself .
Do you personally know him??? Saban thought enough of him to sign him to an extension this year and they gave him a major pay increase.