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<blockquote data-quote="Samuel S" data-source="post: 129418013" data-attributes="member: 1754664">Another point is that we lost 3 of our 4 games badly. Even counting the OT loss to OSU, we were outscored in our losses 179-98 (44.7-24.5 mpg , or basically by 3TDs).Against Baylor, OU and TCU, we were outscored 146-72 (48.6 -24).&nbsp; I believe this is the first year we lost to all 4 of those teams. It's not the first season,&nbsp; unfortunately, we have been thoroughly whipped by 3 teams under Holgorsen:2012:&nbsp; TTU, KSU, OSU, Syracuse2013: Maryland, Baylor, KSU (+ losses to KU and ISU)Last season, we actually had no 3TD losses, so considering this is an easier schedule, it's debatable whether we are as good, even if we finish 8-5.Unless, we get a graduate transfer QB for 2016, it's hard to see us making much positive headway in 2016, given the losses from the D .&nbsp;&nbsp; There is no basis for claiming WVU has made any progress, unless we pretend the world began in 2013.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Samuel S, post: 129418013, member: 1754664"] Another point is that we lost 3 of our 4 games badly. Even counting the OT loss to OSU, we were outscored in our losses 179-98 (44.7-24.5 mpg , or basically by 3TDs). Against Baylor, OU and TCU, we were outscored 146-72 (48.6 -24). I believe this is the first year we lost to all 4 of those teams. It's not the first season, unfortunately, we have been thoroughly whipped by 3 teams under Holgorsen: 2012: TTU, KSU, OSU, [B]Syracuse [/B] 2013: [B]Marylan[/B]d, Baylor, KSU (+ losses to KU and ISU) Last season, we actually had no 3TD losses, so considering this is an easier schedule, it's debatable whether we are as good, even if we finish 8-5. Unless, we get a graduate transfer QB for 2016, it's hard to see us making much positive headway in 2016, given the losses from the D . There is no basis for claiming WVU has made any progress, unless we pretend the world began in 2013. [/QUOTE]

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