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RobbieRandolph

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I was 20 when I was a Junior, living off campus. Guess I would've been screwed if I wanted a late night snack or cup of coffee during exam week.

Dorothy Isaac is an idiot.
 
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futaba.79

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Dorothy Isaac has some political clout. My guess would be that the Mayor takes that clout seriously.

If a curfew ever came to be, I hope common sense would prevail and it would be imposed on those under 18. I'm sure the SPD would be delightedto have another reason to stop people. </p>
 
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ScoobaDawg

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Im at a loss of words that this is even being considered....
The fact that wiseman commented and furthermore is even entertained this idea just proves what an IDIOT he is and just committed political suicide in this town.

Dear dumbass Dorothy Isaac, the killing did not happen because young adults were out after 11pm at night..the murder happened I believe because the guy was tired of being bullied his whole life and went off finally.
I only wish when she stood up and said "look at me I was right..should of listened" they would of told her to shutup.
Violence happens in community's every night in every corner of the world...what do you want to do, put a curfew at dark, ban guns, and ban alcohol???

How about looking at the issue in a logical way instead of blowing everything out of the sorts.
The fact that the city is entertaining the though by making a committee is just plain ignorant.

Furthermore after finding this article...how about Isaac and her NAACP clout go after the Police for allowing the gangs to continue and harass him to the point where he needed a police escort to school..no wonder he snapped
Or the club for not having appropriate security?

http://www.cdispatch.com/news/article.asp?aid=6354
 
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someonestolemyusernamedamnit

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I guess things really do go to **** when you start selling beer cold.
 
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someonestolemyusernamedamnit

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It sounds like the city should forget the curfew and issue a muzzle for Dorothy.
 
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mcfly.sixpack

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and you should have heard some of the ridiculous **** some of those people were saying. But of the names listed to decide on it Perkins is the only one that will vote for the curfew; he's the one who stood up in City Hall and said that if we pass a law for Sunday alcohol sales I want to pass a law that every single person has to go to church on Sunday.
 
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ElectroSpanish

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Just because Ms. Isaac said we need a curfew for everyone 21 and under does not mean that the Mayor or the rest this ad hoc committee (which has MSU representation) agree with her. I don't see how forming a committee to study the issue in anyway endorses Ms. Isaac's proposal. If anything forming the committee is a politically expedient measure to appear to address the issues raised by those who over-react to everything (e.g. Dorthy Isaac) while in reality doing nothing. I wouldn't worry too much about this at this right now. Is a city wide curfew a dumb idea, yes. Would it have any effect on crime, no. Is their a need to for a city wide policy to address what is an unfortunate but isolated incident, no. I think it's a bad idea but I'm taking a wait and see approach right now.

Fortunately the days of the Starkville BOA seeing the student population
in an adversarial manner are over I don't think they'd do anything to directly attack students anymore. It will take time to trickle down
to the SPD though.

If you are truly worried about this issue you should attend BOA meetings and use the public comments time to speak out against this. You can get people who agree with you to do the same. That's mostly what Dorthy Isaac does. I don't think she has that much clout in the community . You just hear her name a lot because she makes a show out of every issue (see seven day sales). If you are really passionate I'd advise you to use her technique which is go off on a nonsensical rant at the BOA meeting and close by saying it's for the children. I've never heard her put forth an argument that didn't conclude with "it's for the children" no matter how disconnected the issue was.

Also, I wouldn't use SDN article as evidence against anyone, they are consistently wrong. Given their track record Dorthy Isaac could have proposed a curfew for everyone over 21.
 
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mcfly.sixpack

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but the problem is the BOA is the deciding factor in all city issues. The mayor has the deciding vote if there happens to be a tie but there's 7 aldermen. Wiseman has no power to decide on what needs to happen and until people like Roy Perkins get replaced or until the student body starts voting for alderman in the ward they live in (which will never happen) Starkville politics will always slow down the potential progression of the town.
 
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ElectroSpanish

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What more did you expect out of them in less than 12 months. The only things as a group they can do to really right now given the budget they have are pass sunday sales (done) and raise the millage rate. The comp plan is being worked on and will be much better than anything we've done before albeit not perfect. They are engaged with the university at a high level for the first time ever, are continuing to improve road maintenance (credit goes to Dan Camp for that), passed a historic preservation ordinance. If it weren't for people like Roy Perkins and Ben Carver more could be done but I think they doing ok for one year on a shoe string budget.

As for Parker his tenure is going to decided on one issue, a municipal complex. Can he get a plan together and can he sell the bond necessary to build the thing to the voters who will ultimately decide it's fate. Still in our code charter government he has very little authority. So he's out doing what he can which is selling Starkville investors. Is he being successful? More so than GSDP and that is their lone mission.
 
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mcfly said:
but the problem is the BOA is the deciding factor in all city issues. The mayor has the deciding vote if there happens to be a tie but there's 7 aldermen. Wiseman has no power to decide on what needs to happen and until people like Roy Perkins get replaced or until the student body starts voting for alderman in the ward they live in (which will never happen) Starkville politics will always slow down the potential progression of the town.
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Yeah if students would vote Starkville would be a much better place..
 
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BullDawgin

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Let's give them another venue to harass college students. Fine students with curfew tickets, helmet tickets, open container tickets (in Cotton District). Further sucking the university's tit while tramplingpersonal libertiesall at once
 
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hotdogface9

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let's get together a committee, include the loudest voice on the topic and a bunch of people who can effectivelyoppose (and outvote) the loudest voice, study the issue, and then after things have cooled down, quietly release a report rejecting the idea. I can't imagine that this approach is actually needed in this case, but it is one of the oldest tricks in the book
 
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ScoobaDawg

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I'll admit I might of over reacted a little in my response but I have put no faith in Wiseman or the board since the stunt pulled with the veto due to race.
I just feel like forming a committee gives credence and a voice to this crazy woman and wastes the time where something otherwise productive could be done
to move the city forward.

I do understand that its a giant game of politics and you have to talk sideways alot.. and thats the reason why I hate politics.
Shoot with me straight and I'll have a lot more respect for you. But that cant be in our world of Political correctness.
 
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Porkchop.sixpack

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a basic human right.

It might not be the case with this lady, but it just absolutely blows my mind the number of people that call themselves conservative and constantly think of ways for the government to force people to act the way they want them to act.

Better to have 20 people have their head blown off in the open streets than to have an entire city's basic liberties destroyed.
 
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AssEndDawg

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ElectroSpanish said:
I don't see how forming a committee to study the issue in anyway endorses Ms. Isaac's proposal.
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Because the proper response is to laugh in her face and tell her to shut the +$%$ up. There seems to be a disturbing trend in Starkville of the local government entertaining the idea of crapping on peoples rights. That should not be happening.

We are one step from forcing everyone to sit at home after 5:00p with a bicycle helmet on in case they fall...
 
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