Wimbledon: greatest tennis player of all time on the line?
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Being a tennis player myself (currently unranked 
) I really love watching Federer, because he is so mechanically perfect in everything he does. But for all time greats you might have to think hard about Boris Becker.
Current young pups coming up I really like Rilley Opelka, as some of his playing style is what I like to do - in particular his serve volley and his drop shots - two weapons I use even though I'm a doubles player. On the negative side he has a tendency to miss the low skippers like I do - he has a good excuse though as he is about 6' 6" and it's really hard for a tall guy to get down for those balls.
) I really love watching Federer, because he is so mechanically perfect in everything he does. But for all time greats you might have to think hard about Boris Becker.Current young pups coming up I really like Rilley Opelka, as some of his playing style is what I like to do - in particular his serve volley and his drop shots - two weapons I use even though I'm a doubles player. On the negative side he has a tendency to miss the low skippers like I do - he has a good excuse though as he is about 6' 6" and it's really hard for a tall guy to get down for those balls.
Uh, no. I like Becker too, but he's not even close.
Federer's backhand is just un-freaking-real. It's hard enough to hit a good backhand, but to do it one handed and have the control that he does. :fire:
Federer's backhand is just un-freaking-real. It's hard enough to hit a good backhand, but to do it one handed and have the control that he does. :fire:
Either way, we’re watching the best male and female players of all time right now. And that’s pretty cool.
Plus he married a gal that average joes like us would have a shot with. Very gracious of him.
Fed is the all-time greatest no matter what happens this weekend. 20 slams. Won them over 16 years. Won 6 wimbeldons in a row. 3 of those when he won 3 of 4 slams that year. All while playing against players who have the resume for being 2nd and 3rd greatest all-time. He is hands down the king of this sport.
Well, if he stays ahead in the slams count, yes. If he does not then it’s a no. And this weekend goes a long way in perhaps him being passed in the near future.
^^Oh, and Federer also had 12 slams by 2007 before Novak had won even 1 (First one in 2008)and Nadal had just 3. So, as Nadal and Djokovic truly entered the scene his production fell off. Novak and Nadal both won 15 slams since with Roger winning 8 more in those years. So, he beat up on other guys before these two came on the scene.
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Not when the other guy in the convo for #1 consistently beats your *** like a drum.
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But the pro/amateur rules that kept him out for a while also kept other top players out for times he did win.
But Federer's backhand is the very weakness that Nadal has been able to exploit so succesfully.
Fed's backhand can't handle high kick serves or heavy topspin groundstrokes that force him to hit high backhands. Nadal uses those very shots.
You could argue that when those two came on the scene, it was the next generation.
Federer dominated his generation like nobody else, then continued to be near the top for the next generation of players. Now we're in a place where it should be time for yet another generation of players to be taking over, but so far nobody has shown up to do so.
Fixed it for you.
Nadal has a dominant record over Federer on clay, as he does with every opponent.
Federer has a winning record against Nadal on all other surfaces.
They're younger than he is. It should be no surprise at all that they - two of the greatest of all time - have more slams in their primes than Fed does in the time well after *his* prime.
What other player dominated his era, then continued to win slams, albeit at a lesser rate, well into his mid 30s?
What other player dominated his era, then continued to win slams, albeit at a lesser rate, well into his mid 30s?
And they both have more time to get him in Slams and break other records he has now.
And in terms of just a Clay court specialist, Sampras won 7 majors outside of Wimbledon and Nadal has 6 outside of Paris with a few years left. He has as many majors as Edberg and Becker do in their whole career on different surfaces than Clay (6). He also has been to 6 straight semi finals. Yes, clay court specialist but certainly holds his own on other surfaces.
He also won the gold medal on a hard court surface
He also won the gold medal on a hard court surface
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I've got the same feeling. I don't think Nadal will win another non French, though.
The women are unbearable. Ruining the game if you ask me, or at least affecting it.
Should not be allowed.
Fed has redefined what a prime is. Rafa has ONE non French major since he was 26. His prime ended well short of his 30th birthday. Fed is still playing world class tennis at age (almost) 38. People who watch Fed today are in awe of him - the 26 year old Fed would annihilate this version of himself. He's been around so long people have forgotten how great he was.
Why that first part doesn't come last, instead of immediately before the nose? Nadal fans
I didn’t check his birthday, I was going off memory and his current age.
My bad, I didn’t realize he has dominated the non clay majors so much in the last 7 years. Two is amazing.
Just making sure you state facts correctly. To try and denigrate his unreal career is asinine.