"wiretapped" now means "actions about surveillance and other activities"

[Best Virginia]

... whatever the hell that means. Sleazeballs and liars.

“You said, ‘They may have been phony in the past but it’s very real now,'” Alexander said, quoting Spicer’s words back to him. “When should Americans trust the president? Should they trust the president, is it phony or real when he says President Obama was wiretapped?”


“He doesn’t really think that President Obama went up and tapped his phone personally,” Spicer explained. “But there’s no question that the Obama administration, that there were actions about surveillance and other activities that occurred in the 2016 election. That is a widely reported activity that occurred back then.”


“The president used the word wiretapping,” the press secretary continued, gesturing air quotes, “to mean, broadly, surveillance and other activities during that.”

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

... whatever the hell that means. Sleazeballs and liars.

“You said, ‘They may have been phony in the past but it’s very real now,'” Alexander said, quoting Spicer’s words back to him. “When should Americans trust the president? Should they trust the president, is it phony or real when he says President Obama was wiretapped?”


“He doesn’t really think that President Obama went up and tapped his phone personally,” Spicer explained. “But there’s no question that the Obama administration, that there were actions about surveillance and other activities that occurred in the 2016 election. That is a widely reported activity that occurred back then.”


“The president used the word wiretapping,” the press secretary continued, gesturing air quotes, “to mean, broadly, surveillance and other activities during that.”

I think any sane person knew exactly what it meant. I'm quite sure in fact that you'd have to be raving lunatic to believe he was being literal when he said "Obama himself Wire tapped him".

It's quite possible, Obama had no idea, as he claimed with the IRS, Fast & Furious, the Benghazi film lie, and a slew of other things he claimed ignorance on. I'd be shocked however, if he didn't know Trump and his campaign were under surveillance.

Listening to the campaign round table at Harvard just after the election, when the Clinton camp said they "knew for a fact" various things occurred" and "Russians", it was pretty obvious the campaig was collaborating with the intel world. That only happens, I would think, with Obama's knowledge.

But, this is all speculative on my part, I'll wait for the full investigation.

 

[Boomboom521]

I think any sane person knew exactly what it meant. I'm quite sure in fact that you'd have to be raving lunatic to believe he was being literal when he said "Obama himself Wire tapped him".

It's quite possible, Obama had no idea, as he claimed with the IRS, Fast & Furious, the Benghazi film lie, and a slew of other things he claimed ignorance on. I'd be shocked however, if he didn't know Trump and his campaign were under surveillance.

Listening to the campaign round table at Harvard just after the election, when the Clinton camp said they "knew for a fact" various things occurred" and "Russians", it was pretty obvious the campaig was collaborating with the intel world. That only happens, I would think, with Obama's knowledge.

But, this is all speculative on my part, I'll wait for the full investigation.

Come on dog, he knew what he was trying to insinuate.....true or not. Can't we at the very least, hold him to his crazy assertions? He thought / thinks / or wanted others to think that Obama ordered Trump Tower calls to be recorded. This insane strategy might work in driving division and getting his agenda passed, but it's destroying the credibility of the office that should be considered legitimate at the worst. It's Clinton and Nixon added together times Kennedy!

 

[moe]

... whatever the hell that means. Sleazeballs and liars.

“You said, ‘They may have been phony in the past but it’s very real now,'” Alexander said, quoting Spicer’s words back to him. “When should Americans trust the president? Should they trust the president, is it phony or real when he says President Obama was wiretapped?”


“He doesn’t really think that President Obama went up and tapped his phone personally,” Spicer explained. “But there’s no question that the Obama administration, that there were actions about surveillance and other activities that occurred in the 2016 election. That is a widely reported activity that occurred back then.”


“The president used the word wiretapping,” the press secretary continued, gesturing air quotes, “to mean, broadly, surveillance and other activities during that.”

He just keeps reinforcing the fact that you can't believe one word he says, what an embarrassment.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Come on dog, he knew what he was trying to insinuate.....true or not. Can't we at the very least, hold him to his crazy assertions? He thought / thinks / or wanted others to think that Obama ordered Trump Tower calls to be recorded. This insane strategy might work in driving division and getting his agenda passed, but it's destroying the credibility of the office that should be considered legitimate at the worst. It's Clinton and Nixon added together times Kennedy!

Sure, let's hold him to it. Have the investigations. I don't think the left is going to be happy with them though. A. They won't be proving collusion. B. We might find out the previous administration was indeed abusing its power and using resources of the Gov't investigating an opposition candidate.

Supposing both are true, what exactly do you think that will do to the country/party?

 

[WVex-pat in GA]

 

[bamaEER]

... whatever the hell that means. Sleazeballs and liars.

“You said, ‘They may have been phony in the past but it’s very real now,'” Alexander said, quoting Spicer’s words back to him. “When should Americans trust the president? Should they trust the president, is it phony or real when he says President Obama was wiretapped?”


“He doesn’t really think that President Obama went up and tapped his phone personally,” Spicer explained. “But there’s no question that the Obama administration, that there were actions about surveillance and other activities that occurred in the 2016 election. That is a widely reported activity that occurred back then.”


“The president used the word wiretapping,” the press secretary continued, gesturing air quotes, “to mean, broadly, surveillance and other activities during that.”

The backpeddling begins. Typical Biff.

 

[Boomboom521]

Sure, let's hold him to it. Have the investigations. I don't think the left is going to be happy with them though. A. They won't be proving collusion. B. We might find out the previous administration was indeed abusing its power and using resources of the Gov't investigating an opposition candidate.

Supposing both are true, what exactly do you think that will do to the country/party?

There we go again. The right just assumes that Obama is guilty based on what? If it's true, I think it's a positive for the Dems in the long run.....forcing a definitive split from the administration that so many love to hate. Like being traded away from the Yankees

 

[atlkvb]

Come on dog, he knew what he was trying to insinuate.....true or not. Can't we at the very least, hold him to his crazy assertions? He thought / thinks / or wanted others to think that Obama ordered Trump Tower calls to be recorded. This insane strategy might work in driving division and getting his agenda passed, but it's destroying the credibility of the office that should be considered legitimate at the worst. It's Clinton and Nixon added together times Kennedy!

Boomer, when that story first surfaced two weekends ago, everyone on the Left was mocking Trump and denying it. By the following Monday the meme had changed from denying & mocking Trump, to parsing out exactly what he meant by "tapping" of his phone and who did it? Now it's a question of if he meant simple "surveillance" or some other more nefarious activity?

That's a far cry from the outright rejections and denials of his initial claim, that his private conversations at Trump Tower were indeed being eavesdropped on, and the party likely behind it or at least approved & was aware of it was the Obama administration.

Nothing has refuted those initial claims from Trump in fact they've essentially been validated if not proven...despite debate over how he initially claimed the eavesdropping occurred.

 

[atlkvb]

If it's true, I think it's a positive for the Dems

I disagree with this totally boom. If it's true (illegal surveillance) Dems are going to have to answer to subpoenas or face possible criminal violations of both the espionage act and FISA laws.

 

[Boomboom521]

Boomer, when that story first surfaced two weekends ago, everyone on the Left was mocking Trump and denying it. By Monday the meme had changed from denying & mocking Trump, to parsing out what he exactly he meant by "tapping" his phone and who did it? Now it's a question of if he meant simple "surveillance" or some other more nefarious activity?

That's a far cry from the outright rejections and denials of his initial claim, that his private conversations at Trump Tower were indeed being eavesdropped on, and the party likely behind it or at least approved & was aware of it was the Obama administration.

Nothing has refuted that initial claim from Trump...despite debate over how he initially claimed the eavesdropping occurred.

Because when a President accuses someone of breakup no the law....it needs to be taken seriously. So, if there is no evidence that it didn't happen....Obama's still guilty, right?

 

[atlkvb]

Because when a President accuses someone of breakup no the law....it needs to be taken seriously. So, if there is no evidence that it didn't happen....Obama's still guilty, right?

No not at all boomer. If there is no evidence then Trump surely made it up, and deserves whatever ridicule the Left can muster to throw at him beyond everything else they've tossed his way.

The reality though is that the longer this investigation goes on, the less likely it was that Trump colluded with Russians to disrupt the election, and the more likely it appears that his operations at Trump Tower were indeed placed under intense surveillance just as he tweeted.

The only thing we're still not sure of right now is who ordered the surveillance and for what reason?

 

[WVU82_rivals]

 

[Boomboom521]

No not at all boomer. If there is no evidence then Trump surely made it up, and deserves whatever ridicule the Left can muster to throw at him beyond everything else they've tossed his way.

The reality though is that the longer this investigation goes on, the less likely it was that Trump colluded with Russians to disrupt the election, and the more likely it appears that his operations at Trump Tower were indeed placed under intense surveillance just as he tweeted.

The only thing we're still not sure of right now is who ordered the surveillance and for what reason?

Trumps goals all along in my opinion 1) more Obama and dem hate (leftists destroying America) and 2) make it seem as if though there was no Russian connections.

Neither investigation is complete. No evidence has come forth one way or the other, but you guys are sure Obama did this (although there is NO evidence at all). And the left is sure Trump colluded with the Russians (there is evidence of the possibility, but no evidence of collusion at all). What makes you think there was surveillance of any kind? What evidence?

 

[atlkvb]

Trumps goals all along in my opinion 1) more Obama and dem hate (leftists destroying America) and 2) make it seem as if though there was no Russian connections.

Neither investigation is complete. No evidence has come forth one way or the other, but you guys are sure Obama did this (although there is NO evidence at all). And the left is sure Trump colluded with the Russians (there is evidence of the possibility, but no evidence of collusion at all). What makes you think there was surveillance of any kind? What evidence?

There are conversations that were intercepted boom...the NYT reported this
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/us/politics/trump-russia-associates-investigation.html?_r=0

Several people with knowledge of the investigations have said there was surveillance

https://www.thenewamerican.com/usne...-trumps-wiretapping-allegations-based-in-fact

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...ower_not_necessarily_related_to_election.html

The FBI says they have reason to believe the surveillance claims

http://fortune.com/2017/03/04/trump-wiretapping-fbi-warrent/

As I posted previously boomer, the only thing we aren't sure of at this moment in the investigation is who ordered the surveillance and why?

We are more sure at least so far, no solid evidence has emerged that Trump was colluding with Russians to influence the election or ever did so.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/14124/democratic-senator-just-admitted-theres-no-hard-james-barrett

http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...-hacking-fbi-not-investigating-trump-campaign

 

[Boomboom521]

There are conversations that were intercepted boom...the NYT reported this
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/us/politics/trump-russia-associates-investigation.html?_r=0

Several people with knowledge of the investigations have said there was surveillance

https://www.thenewamerican.com/usne...-trumps-wiretapping-allegations-based-in-fact

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...ower_not_necessarily_related_to_election.html

The FBI says they have reason to believe the surveillance claims

http://fortune.com/2017/03/04/trump-wiretapping-fbi-warrent/

As I posted previously boomer, the only thing we aren't sure of at this moment in the investigation is who ordered the surveillance and why?

We are more sure at least there so far, no solid evidence has emerged that Trump was colluding with Russians to influence the election or ever did so.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/14124/democratic-senator-just-admitted-theres-no-hard-james-barrett

http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...-hacking-fbi-not-investigating-trump-campaign

So if the FBI was approved by a Federal judge under the FISA program to monitor communications of Trump campaign figures, in an investigation into Russian involvement in the US Presidential campaign, this constitutes an abuse of power by Obama......THATS what you take away from the legitimate information in the articles you posted? And that's NOT bias?

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

Boomer, when that story first surfaced two weekends ago, everyone on the Left was mocking Trump and denying it. By the following Monday the meme had changed from denying & mocking Trump, to parsing out exactly what he meant by "tapping" of his phone and who did it? Now it's a question of if he meant simple "surveillance" or some other more nefarious activity?.

We are still mocking Trump. He can't provide any proof to substantiate his claim whatsoever. He has access to all the intelligence agencies.


"How low has President Obama gone to tapp my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!" Donald Trump

Yes, he said "tapp my phones".


"I think there's no question that the Obama administration, that there were actions about surveillance and other activities that occurred in the 2016 election," Spicer said. "The President used the word wiretaps in quotes to mean, broadly, surveillance and other activities." Sean Spicer, today

They can't even get their stories straight.

 

[atlkvb]

So if the FBI was approved by a Federal judge under the FISA program to monitor communications of Trump campaign figures, in an investigation into Russian involvement in the US Presidential campaign, this constitutes an abuse of power by Obama......THATS what you take away from the legitimate information in the articles you posted? And that's NOT bias?

It's not proven that's why the FISA warrants were issued boomer or who asked for them. However we do know that since only the Justice Department can request them, and has to make a case for them, it's logical to assume it was Obama's Justice Department. Yes the FBI was looking into allegations of Trump collusion with Russians (has been doing so since October with no hard evidence), but the FISA requests as far as we know were not directly related to that ongoing investigation.

There was no mention of any other surveillance ordered on Trump Tower as a result of that investigation until Trump tweeted it out two weekends ago. The Left initially denied and mocked his tweets, then backed off and started parsing words over what he alleged or could prove through his tweet when evidence emerged from the previous reports that indeed Trump tower had been under surveillance not related to the Russia probe and that FISA requests to place it under surveillance had been both denied and then finally granted.

All of that was new information boom, unrelated to the Russians for Trump narrative boom.

 

[atlkvb]

We are still mocking Trump. He can't provide any proof to substantiate his claim whatsoever. He has access to all the intelligence agencies.


"How low has President Obama gone to tapp my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!" Donald Trump

Yes, he said "tapp my phones".


"I think there's no question that the Obama administration, that there were actions about surveillance and other activities that occurred in the 2016 election," Spicer said. "The President used the word wiretaps in quotes to mean, broadly, surveillance and other activities." Sean Spicer, today

They can't even get their stories straight.

This is all true countryroads89. Trump did say his phones were "tapped". The Left denied any surveillance of Trump Tower at all. Both statements were not correct, and hopefully we will get to the bottom of it because the Truth hopefully won't be argued over once it's known in full.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

The Left denied any surveillance of Trump Tower at all. Both statements were not correct,

So it has been proven that Trump tower was tapped?

Show me proof, link an article.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

So if the FBI was approved by a Federal judge under the FISA program to monitor communications of Trump campaign figures

It would help if you understood FISA.

Bottom line, and it's not debatable. Someone broke the law by releasing intelligence gathered in a "foreign" investigation that picked up a US Citizen in a call. The release of info re: Kelly's call was a violation of FISA statutes.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

It would help if you understood FISA.

Bottom line, and it's not debatable. Someone broke the law by releasing intelligence gathered in a "foreign" investigation that picked up a US Citizen in a call. The release of info re: Kelly's call was a violation of FISA statutes.

Wrong Matlock. No one released classified info. The info proving Flynn lied and Sessions lied remained within the community that had appropriate clearance. The fact that they were caught lying was released but not the actual information.

 

[atlkvb]

So it has been proven that Trump tower was tapped?

Show me proof, link an article.

This is the closest I can come to it countryroads89, although this information does not specifically mention Trump Tower, all the principles involved in the 'intimate conversations' that were intercepted were members of Trump's main campaign operations which were located primarily at Trump Tower.

So one has to logically assume a great deal of the intercepted conversations mentioned in this piece were received from communications inside the campaign headquarters.(ie: Trump Towers)

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/us/politics/russia-intelligence-communications-trump.html

This doesn't "prove" Trump Tower was wiretapped countryroads89, but it questions the authenticity of NYT reporting which suggests it was. Where else were the conversations collected especially if the FISA request was granted specifically for Trump Tower?

http://nypost.com/2017/03/08/did-the-new-york-times-already-tell-us-trump-was-wiretapped/

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

This is the closest I can come to it countryroads89, although this information does not specifically mention Trump Tower, all the principles involved in the 'intimate conversations' that were intercepted were members of Trump's main campaign operations which were located primarily at Trump Tower.

So one has to logically assume a great deal of the intercepted conversations mentioned in this piece were received from communications inside the campaign headquarters.(ie: Trump Towers)

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/us/politics/russia-intelligence-communications-trump.html

This doesn't "prove" Trump Tower was wiretapped countryroads89, but it questions the authenticity of NYT reporting which suggests it was. Where else were the conversations collected especially if the FISA request was granted specifically for Trump Tower?

http://nypost.com/2017/03/08/did-the-new-york-times-already-tell-us-trump-was-wiretapped/

None of us know and I wouldn't jump to the conclusion Trump Tower was tapped. I would almost bet my lunch money that the FISA warrant didn't mention Trump Tower, it mentioned Russian agents and in that process they collected the SIGINT of campaign members. For all we know, they each could have been using their personal cell phones.

 

[atlkvb]

None of us know and I wouldn't jump to the conclusion Trump Tower was tapped. I would almost bet my lunch money that the FISA warrant didn't mention Trump Tower, it mentioned Russian agents and in that process they collected the SIGINT of campaign members. For all we know, they each could have been using their personal cell phones.

Yes this is certainly possible cr89, but then if Trump has access to more data than we do at the moment maybe he already knows it was Trump Tower? If he doesn't know that, he's going to look mighty foolish if the investigation reveals that the conversations were intercepted elsewhere while he specifically mentioned Trump Tower.

But I'll have to admit and agree with you we simply do not know for sure right now. We do know that a FISA was granted. We just don't know why and where it was applied?

 

[atlkvb]

None of us know and I wouldn't jump to the conclusion Trump Tower was tapped. I would almost bet my lunch money that the FISA warrant didn't mention Trump Tower, it mentioned Russian agents and in that process they collected the SIGINT of campaign members. For all we know, they each could have been using their personal cell phones.

If it (bugging) was in Trump Tower as Trump himself suggests countryroads89, he can clear it up

https://theintercept.com/2017/03/04...retapped-trump-can-declassify-that-right-now/

 

[bamaEER]

None of us know and I wouldn't jump to the conclusion Trump Tower was tapped. I would almost bet my lunch money that the FISA warrant didn't mention Trump Tower, it mentioned Russian agents and in that process they collected the SIGINT of campaign members. For all we know, they each could have been using their personal cell phones.

Wiretapped. It's a simple concept. Never happened.

 

[WVU82_rivals]

lol... a better question...

who ISN'T getting wiretapped ???

can't wait for the next WikiLeaks dump...

 

[WVU82_rivals]

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Wrong Matlock. No one released classified info. The info proving Flynn lied and Sessions lied remained within the community that had appropriate clearance. The fact that they were caught lying was released but not the actual information.

Hahahaha ok.

 

[Best Virginia]

If it (bugging) was in Trump Tower as Trump himself suggests countryroads89, he can clear it up

https://theintercept.com/2017/03/04...retapped-trump-can-declassify-that-right-now/

"suggests"? lmao Is this a suggestion to you?
"How low has President Obama gone to tapp my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!" Donald Trump"
This is why you SHTT's look like idiots. Calling THAT a suggestion. You also state at one point in this thread, that if Trump's accusations are proved to be false, then he "deserves ridicule from the left". Really? That's his punishment for slander of President Obama calling him a "sick guy"? That's his punishment for lying to the country and the world with false illegal accusations? A little bit of ridicule from the left and complete blind adoration from the lunatics who adore him? That's Trump's punishment? You're as much of a joke as Trump and his Team are. In case you haven't noticed Trump and Team are getting embarrassed daily on their own. That "punishment" deservedly stands alone. Trump needs to be impeached, jailed and sued. End of story. Trump deserves no less. For you to suggest he deserves a little "ridicule" shows just how far from reality you people are.

 

[atlkvb]

"suggests"? lmao Is this a suggestion to you?
"How low has President Obama gone to tapp my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!" Donald Trump"
This is why you SHTT's look like idiots. Calling THAT a suggestion. You also state at one point in this thread, that if Trump's accusations are proved to be false, then he "deserves ridicule from the left". Really? That's his punishment for slander of President Obama calling him a "sick guy"? That's his punishment for lying to the country and the world with false illegal accusations? A little bit of ridicule from the left and complete blind adoration from the lunatics who adore him? That's Trump's punishment? You're as much of a joke as Trump and his Team are. In case you haven't noticed Trump and Team are getting embarrassed daily on their own. That "punishment" deservedly stands alone. Trump needs to be impeached, jailed and sued. End of story. Trump deserves no less. For you to suggest he deserves a little "ridicule" shows just how far from reality you people are.

OK Best Virginia, you win Dude. If Trump can't prove Obama had him bugged you're right, he should be "impeached" for high crimes and misdemeanors. Get a rope...how dare he accuse Obama of ordering an illegal surveillance of his campaign operation. Shame on him! Pull his lying tongue out!!!!!!

Now, let's just say the investigation proves Trump's 100% correct? What do you suggest we do to Obama?

 

[atlkvb]

Wiretapped. It's a simple concept. Never happened.

Of course not...the microphones placed in the ceiling tiles worked better.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

OK Best Virginia, you win Dude. If Trump can't prove Obama had him bugged you're right, he should be "impeached" for high crimes and misdemeanors. Get a rope...how dare he accuse Obama of ordering an illegal surveillance of his campaign operation. Shame on him! Pull his lying tongue out!!!!!!

Now, let's just say the investigation proves Trump's 100% correct? What do you suggest we do to Obama?

You realize yesterday was the deadline for the Trump Admin to provide any proof to substantiate their claims that Trump Tower was wiretapped?

Maybe we will find out "Tuesday or Wednesday".

"And I know a lot about hacking," Trump continued. "And hacking is a very hard thing to prove. So it could be somebody else. And I also know things that other people don't know, and so they cannot be sure of the situation." - little hands donnie

 

[bamaEER]

You realize yesterday was the deadline for the Trump Admin to provide any proof to substantiate their claims that Trump Tower was wiretapped?

Maybe we will find out "Tuesday or Wednesday".

"And I know a lot about hacking," Trump continued. "And hacking is a very hard thing to prove. So it could be somebody else. And I also know things that other people don't know, and so they cannot be sure of the situation." - little hands donnie

Like his claims of 3 million illegal voters, he'll just say nothing more and basically think we'll forget about it. Narcissism induced Taurette's must be a hard thing to deal with.

 

[Original Mountaineer1]

I think any sane person knew exactly what it meant. I'm quite sure in fact that you'd have to be raving lunatic to believe he was being literal when he said "Obama himself Wire tapped him".

It's quite possible, Obama had no idea, as he claimed with the IRS, Fast & Furious, the Benghazi film lie, and a slew of other things he claimed ignorance on. I'd be shocked however, if he didn't know Trump and his campaign were under surveillance.

Listening to the campaign round table at Harvard just after the election, when the Clinton camp said they "knew for a fact" various things occurred" and "Russians", it was pretty obvious the campaig was collaborating with the intel world. That only happens, I would think, with Obama's knowledge.

But, this is all speculative on my part, I'll wait for the full investigation.

Keep spinning Dog. Keep spinning. I would expect Pax and Atl to spout that line about taking Trump literally but I didn't expect that from you. You and I are both sure he meant wiretapping because that is what came from the article he read. He is the old grandparent with no filter. Just says what he thinks at any moment. He has proven it for the last 18 months. Damn dangerous for the leader of the free world.

 

[Mntneer]

Keep spinning Dog. Keep spinning. I would expect Pax and Atl to spout that line about taking Trump literally but I didn't expect that from you. You and I are both sure he meant wiretapping because that is what came from the article he read. He is the old grandparent with no filter. Just says what he thinks at any moment. He has proven it for the last 18 months. Damn dangerous for the leader of the free world.

No doubt Trump regurgitates crap he hears without first vetting it.

There's also little doubt that there are career bureaucrats in DC that talk... that share.... that leak.... and have attempt to stick it to Donald at any given chance.

Don't tell me that Lynch and Bill met on some tarmac and did NOT discuss the investigation into Hillary, especially when people in the FBI are claiming Holder instructed the FBI that there would be no chance of any prosecution of Hillary ever happening. These people take care of each other and themselves.

 

[Original Mountaineer1]

No doubt Trump regurgitates crap he hears without first vetting it.

There's also little doubt that there are career bureaucrats in DC that talk... that share.... that leak.... and have attempt to stick it to Donald at any given chance.

Don't tell me that Lynch and Bill met on some tarmac and did NOT discuss the investigation into Hillary, especially when people in the FBI are claiming Holder instructed the FBI that there would be no chance of any prosecution of Hillary ever happening. These people take care of each other and themselves.

I would be the first to tell you that Bill and Lynch to talk about a potential Hillary indictment but what does that have to do with the leader of the free world tweeting nonsense at 6am. Even if he was wiretapped, don't tell the whole world about it. Indict the folks who ordered it for crying out loud.

 

[Mntneer]

I would be the first to tell you that Bill and Lynch to talk about a potential Hillary indictment but what does that have to do with the leader of the free world tweeting nonsense at 6am. Even if he was wiretapped, don't tell the whole world about it. Indict the folks who ordered it for crying out loud.

What is has to do is show that suspecting collusion among these people is not a reach. That it's within the realm of possibility.

My guess. Trump learned that they applied for a FISA wiretap and he ran with it.

 

[Boomboom521]

What is has to do is show that suspecting collusion among these people is not a reach. That it's within the realm of possibility.

My guess. Trump learned that they applied for a FISA wiretap and he ran with it.

Is Trump off limits as a candidate? Trump is "treason-proof"?