Without all the trolling, name-calling, and griping, can we all agree on two things....

DowntownDawg

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Without all the trolling, name-calling, and griping, can we all agree on two things....

....1) Going 12-3 out of conference, with our schedule and our returning team, is significantly underachieving.

2) Because we have gone 12-3, barring a conference run of 13-3 or better, we will be anywhere from a 7 seed to the NIT.
 

mstatefan88

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Without all the trolling, name-calling, and griping, can we all agree on two things....

I expected to lose to Missouri, who we didn't even get a chance to pla, and for WKU to be a tough game. Also not realizing what UCLA was gonna be made me wonder about how tough that game would be. But with the teams we've lost to, I agree we've underachieved. I'm more concerned with the fact that WKU made us do whatever they wanted to last night. If WKU doesn't go on almost as bad of a shooting slump as we did, we lose that game by 10 points or more. We can't count on that in SEC play. If we don't start working inside out and get Varnado more touches to open up the outside, the game we saw last night will happen many more times in SEC play.
 

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Without all the trolling, name-calling, and griping, can we all agree on two things....

...if we had lost to a good UCLA team and a good Missouri team, that would be one thing.
 

mstateglfr

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Without all the trolling, name-calling, and griping, can we all agree on two things....

DowntownDawg said:
....1) Going 12-3 out of conference, with our schedule and our returning team, is significantly underachieving.

2) Because we have gone 12-3, barring a conference run of 13-3 or better, we will be anywhere from a 7 seed to the NIT.

I cant agree with #1. It isnt significantly underachieving. Its not as good as i hoped, and not as good as i think they could realistically be, but it isnt significantly underachieving. If we were at 13-2 i wouldnt have an issue...and thats just 1 less loss.
We played basically nobody...when Richmond and Old Dominion are your best opponents, you know the schedule isnt ball bustingly tough. But at the same time its unrealistic to expect a team to go undefeated thru 15 games. Some manage to do it, but to expect it?...thats unrealistic.
We have minorly underachieved, i suppose.

As for #2...If we go 13-3, we will be in and would be a #7ish seed. 7 - 9 id guess. That is because you still have to factor in SECT games, and a team that goes 13 - 3 in conference should wn at least 1 and probably 2 tournament games. Id bet if we won 11 SEC games, we could maybe sneak in with a very strong SECT showing.
 

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Without all the trolling, name-calling, and griping, can we all agree on two things....

...We get it. You are pissed at the 3 OOC loses.

I remember not long ago, dawgstudent posted here a 13-2 OOC record would be great, but he would take 12-3.

And I don't remember you & your ilk running in to attack dawgstudent for daring to post such an absurdity.

Seeding? you have no idea what this team will be seeded. Teams throughout the land are just now beginning conference play. So predicting seeding at this juncture is like trying to predict the weather.

Here's the way it works in the NCAA basketball tournament: The 16 seeds notwithstanding, it doesn't matter what your seeding is if you enter the tournament hot.
 

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Without all the trolling, name-calling, and griping, can we all agree on two things....

So a "hot" 7, 8, or 9 seed should take care of business and reach the Sweet Sixteen by beating up on a poor 1 or 2 seed with 30+ wins and no more than 4 or 5 losses on the season? I think Ricky has tried that strategy. Maybe if he keeps working at it it'll pay off one of these years.
 

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Without all the trolling, name-calling, and griping, can we all agree on two things....

...here is all you need to know.

Since 1985, 7 seeds win 61% of the time in Round 1 and 30% of the time in Round 2. 8 seeds win 46% of the time in Round 1 and 20% of the time in Round 2. 9 seeds win 54% of the time in Rd. 1 and 6 % of the time in Round 2. 10's win 39% of the time in Round 1 and 46% of the time in Round 2. And so on.

The probabilities aren't very high to make that second weekend, hot or not.
 

dawgstudent

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Without all the trolling, name-calling, and griping, can we all agree on two things....

I said this when we were 8-2 after we had lost 2. I was looking at our remaining schedule. Then late last week, I became fickle and said I would be disappointed with 12-3.
 

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Without all the trolling, name-calling, and griping, can we all agree on two things....

single digit losses this year is fine with me.
 

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Without all the trolling, name-calling, and griping, can we all agree on two things....

I have a couple posts before the season started that raised the questions as to why people thought we were going to be so good if Sidney didn't play. Because we returned most of our players from last year? Great, we returned most of our players from a team that had to catch fire in the SEC tournament just to squeak into the NCAA tournament so we could get our asses handed to us by a decent team. I am not saying that the team hasn't slightly underachieved so far, but I don't think it's by a large margin. Now, if we had these results with Sidney in the lineup, then it's a completely different ballgame.