I'm recording the game and made the mistake of going to Facebook. Holy ****. Germany up 5-0 at the half. Scored 4 goals in 6 minutes. Anyone watching this. What the hell is going on? Did Brazil just quit when they got behind? Even though this has been spoiled for me, I'm going to have to watch the first 30 minutes just to see it.
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Germany is exploiting what has been a somewhat lazy defense. Brazil is not marking anyone. Letting easy passes through. One goal was directly after an unheard of turnover just outside of their own zone. Except for Muller's first goal, none of them have been really that brilliant, Brazil just not really giving much of a fight on defense. They were obviously counting on offense, but the ball has rarely been near the German goal.
Germany is exploiting what has been a somewhat lazy defense. Brazil is not marking anyone. Letting easy passes through. One goal was directly after an unheard of turnover just outside of their own zone. Except for Muller's first goal, none of them have been really that brilliant, Brazil just not really giving much of a fight on defense. They were obviously counting on offense, but the ball has rarely been near the German goal.
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Seems a combination of insanely perfect play by the Germans and increasing frustration and lack of effort by the Brazilians. Maybe not a lack of effort but a stretch of cluelessness and inability to deal with the shock of it all. Toni Kroos is good by the way.
Seems a combination of insanely perfect play by the Germans and increasing frustration and lack of effort by the Brazilians. Maybe not a lack of effort but a stretch of cluelessness and inability to deal with the shock of it all. Toni Kroos is good by the way.
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My theory, not having actually seen this match.
Brazil has been under tremendous pressure this whole tournament and they've showed signs of starting to crack under it throughout the tournament - lackluster win over Croatia aided by some really questionable calls, draw with Mexico, terrible PK shootout they somehow managed to win against Chile. Then they lost probably their 2 most important players in Neymar and Silva. So they go into this game with little leadership and when they got 2 goals down, they just cracked. My guess is Germany sits on the lead and it ends up about where it is now. Scary thought is, Brazil has to somehow get it together and play another match on Saturday. Going to be tough to do with their whole country in mourning.
Brazil has been under tremendous pressure this whole tournament and they've showed signs of starting to crack under it throughout the tournament - lackluster win over Croatia aided by some really questionable calls, draw with Mexico, terrible PK shootout they somehow managed to win against Chile. Then they lost probably their 2 most important players in Neymar and Silva. So they go into this game with little leadership and when they got 2 goals down, they just cracked. My guess is Germany sits on the lead and it ends up about where it is now. Scary thought is, Brazil has to somehow get it together and play another match on Saturday. Going to be tough to do with their whole country in mourning.
Your theory is right on point
They have looked very vulnerable the entire tournament, just ran into a team with enough talent to shred their defense. You should watch the first half for nothing more than the shots of the stunned Brazilians in the crowd. Reminds me of what Bama fans look like when someone finally steps up and beats them at home.
They have looked very vulnerable the entire tournament, just ran into a team with enough talent to shred their defense. You should watch the first half for nothing more than the shots of the stunned Brazilians in the crowd. Reminds me of what Bama fans look like when someone finally steps up and beats them at home.
My theory
is that this is the least talented, overall, Brazilian squad since 1990. I had thought that from day one. That's not to say I think they suck. A second tier Brazil is still a team that is good enough to get to the semifinals, obviously.
is that this is the least talented, overall, Brazilian squad since 1990. I had thought that from day one. That's not to say I think they suck. A second tier Brazil is still a team that is good enough to get to the semifinals, obviously.
...in Brazil.
They probably wouldn't have made it past the round of 16 if this World Cup was anywhere else.
Brasil has
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played the same way every match. They come out swinging for the fences, playing an aggressive attacking style. But when someone scores a goal on them, they go as conservative like a boxer who gets cut for the first time.
Hulk sucked it up the whole tournament.
I've said that Germany is the only dominate team in the tournament. They saved their best for when it counted. Klose starting probably had something to do with the extra firepower.
7-1 sure does make that 1-0 win over the USMNT look better.**
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played the same way every match. They come out swinging for the fences, playing an aggressive attacking style. But when someone scores a goal on them, they go as conservative like a boxer who gets cut for the first time.
Hulk sucked it up the whole tournament.
I've said that Germany is the only dominate team in the tournament. They saved their best for when it counted. Klose starting probably had something to do with the extra firepower.
7-1 sure does make that 1-0 win over the USMNT look better.**
germany played to their full capability....honestly, it could have been much worse as they took their foot off the pedal early in the second half until brazil's totally unorganized defense forced germany to score again. they looked fluid and focused.
dont sleep on that match tomorrow either...argentina v the netherlands should be fantastic.
dont sleep on that match tomorrow either...argentina v the netherlands should be fantastic.
If this World Cup were played anywhere else, Brazil wouldn't have had all the pressure on their heads they had in this World Cup. So they'd lose the home field advantage but also lose a lot of the pressure. End result would have probably been about the same, except a closer loss to Germany in the semifinals. As others have pointed out, Brazil simply does not lose to South American teams no matter where they play and that's who they played in the first 2 knockout rounds.
Best part was hearing Steve McManaman rip Brazil for 90 minutes
Some of my favorite quotes.
"You've got to show some fight. Just go and kick somebody!"
"It's like amateur hour."
"It's appalling." I'm sorry I keep using the word appalling, but I"m running out of words to say."
"David Luis isn't interested in running back anymore."
He then starts laughing in disbelief when the scoreboard has to scroll to show all the German players who scored.
Some of my favorite quotes.
"You've got to show some fight. Just go and kick somebody!"
"It's like amateur hour."
"It's appalling." I'm sorry I keep using the word appalling, but I"m running out of words to say."
"David Luis isn't interested in running back anymore."
He then starts laughing in disbelief when the scoreboard has to scroll to show all the German players who scored.
WSJ puts loss in perspective
Goal by goal, the Germans rewrote Brazilian soccer history. The Seleção hadn't lost a competitive game on home soil since 1975. It hadn't conceded as many as four goals in a World Cup game since 1954. And it goes without saying that no team has ever given up seven goals in a World Cup semifinal.
What unfolded Tuesday guaranteed that 2014 could rival 1950 as Brazilian soccer's darkest year. On that occasion at the fourth-ever World Cup, Brazil went into the final game against Uruguay needing only a draw to win its first title, which it saw as its birthright. But as the Maracanã Stadium prepared for a national celebration, Uruguay silenced the crowd with a 2-1 victory...
The World Cup trophy, meanwhile, will be handed over on Sunday in Rio inside the Maracanã, where Brazil saw it slip away in 1950 and coined the word Maracanazo to mean disaster. But in what will be the last Brazilian World Cup for decades, the Seleção's players won't have the chance to go back and lift the curse.
In Belo Horizonte, the curse came to them.
Goal by goal, the Germans rewrote Brazilian soccer history. The Seleção hadn't lost a competitive game on home soil since 1975. It hadn't conceded as many as four goals in a World Cup game since 1954. And it goes without saying that no team has ever given up seven goals in a World Cup semifinal.
What unfolded Tuesday guaranteed that 2014 could rival 1950 as Brazilian soccer's darkest year. On that occasion at the fourth-ever World Cup, Brazil went into the final game against Uruguay needing only a draw to win its first title, which it saw as its birthright. But as the Maracanã Stadium prepared for a national celebration, Uruguay silenced the crowd with a 2-1 victory...
The World Cup trophy, meanwhile, will be handed over on Sunday in Rio inside the Maracanã, where Brazil saw it slip away in 1950 and coined the word Maracanazo to mean disaster. But in what will be the last Brazilian World Cup for decades, the Seleção's players won't have the chance to go back and lift the curse.
In Belo Horizonte, the curse came to them.
Unfortunately,
I believe you are right. This is the one area where ESPN hasn't screwed up. For those that have BeIN, I would advise catching some of their coverage. It's pretty good.
I believe you are right. This is the one area where ESPN hasn't screwed up. For those that have BeIN, I would advise catching some of their coverage. It's pretty good.
If FOX handles the World Cup the way they handle Champions League
it will be a disaster. We'll go from outstanding lead broadcasters Ian Darke and Steve McManaman to screaming Gus Johnson who knows nothing about soccer and Eric Wynalda, who might be the worst analyst in any sport. For all the **** ESPN gets about LeBron and Tebow coverage, the World Cup is the best thing they do and perhaps the best thing ESPN has ever done. I have no faith that Fox will be up to that standard, or even close to it. I guess we should wait for a glowing ball or some talking cartoon character to tell us that the players can't use their hands.
it will be a disaster. We'll go from outstanding lead broadcasters Ian Darke and Steve McManaman to screaming Gus Johnson who knows nothing about soccer and Eric Wynalda, who might be the worst analyst in any sport. For all the **** ESPN gets about LeBron and Tebow coverage, the World Cup is the best thing they do and perhaps the best thing ESPN has ever done. I have no faith that Fox will be up to that standard, or even close to it. I guess we should wait for a glowing ball or some talking cartoon character to tell us that the players can't use their hands.
i dont actually laugh audibly at many comments by sports analysts during live commentary, however, yesterday's comment by mcmanaman was a rare exception. when brazil subbed late down 7-0 or 6-0, they had a late sub. the camera zoomed in on the player and the comment was something to the effect of "well, he doesn't look to thrilled to be in"...steve then said something like "get in there and score 7 goals...make your country proud". he even said it laughing. it was hilarious.
Ian Darke had a laugh out loud comment as well. After Brazil scored in the last minute to make it 7-1, some of the crowd started up a half-hearted Brazil, Brazil chant. Ian said something like "The crowd chanting Brazil, Brazil, unironically I assume." It's not often that announcers can keep your attention in a blowout game, but those two were a treat to listen to. That's what makes them the best. It's a shame they won't be paired together anymore after this tournament.
Macca, in my mind,
is the best analyst out there. Ballack has also do an incredible job, in studio. If somehow Lalas and Twellman could get lost on the way to the set...
is the best analyst out there. Ballack has also do an incredible job, in studio. If somehow Lalas and Twellman could get lost on the way to the set...
