Worst loss in Stans' tenure? Gotta be right?

[msudawg200]

That's unbelievable. Absolutely unbelievable. Can someone, SOMEONE, please fight through a screen to keep wide open 3's from happening? That's all we had to do, and we win the game. Outrebounded? Seriously? Come on guys, terrible effort. Really disappointed because I don't see how we get anything above a 7 or 8 seed now. Really needed a 5.

ETA: Consider the fact that this is supposed to be one of Stans' best teams since he's been here, so bad losses last year shouldn't be considered equal to bad losses this year because our team wasn't as good then.

 

[msudawg200]

That's unbelievable. Absolutely unbelievable. Can someone, SOMEONE, please fight through a screen to keep wide open 3's from happening? That's all we had to do, and we win the game. Outrebounded? Seriously? Come on guys, terrible effort. Really disappointed because I don't see how we get anything above a 7 or 8 seed now. Really needed a 5.

ETA: Consider the fact that this is supposed to be one of Stans' best teams since he's been here, so bad losses last year shouldn't be considered equal to bad losses this year because our team wasn't as good then.

 

[DawgatAuburn]

Rider, UGA in the SEC tournament, Auburn at AU three years ago...all of those were worse.

This is nothing more than a typical Stansbury loss.

 

[engie]

UGA will be real close to a top 100 rpi team when the numbers show up after that road win.

We have lost(at home) to Akron, Florida Atlantic, East Tennessee St, Rider, Charlotte, San Diego, Winthrop, Northwestern St, Southeastern Louisiana, Louisiana Lafayette, and others during his tenure.

 

[msudawg200]

I completely disagree with all of those. First of all, this years team is better and more talented than all of those other State teams, which counts in this. Second, the SEC tourney game against Georgia was on a neutral floor and they won the whole damn tournament. Auburn was a similar team to UGA, but it was at Auburn and we weren't as good. Rider - maybe, but again it was a nonconference game, which are always harder to get up for. That's the only one to me that's even close to this. This is supposed to be his 2nd/3rd best team, and we lose to Georgia who was outside the top 100 in the rpi.

 

[JacksonDevilDog]

The tornado dome game versus Georgia was a very bad loss. They moved it to Georgia tech and let only parents and the band in the game. Only MSU could lose a hoops game to a team that had played earlier that day. Someone correct me if Im wrong about this.

 

[War Machine Dawg]

They then proceed to beat us like we stole something. It was awful.

 

[She Mate Me]

when Stan has set the MSU standard for SEC tourney success, just drives home the delusion that is some fans' Stansbury hatred.

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

..that was not only the worse loss in Stansbury's career, that was probably the worse loss in MSU basketball history.

 

[She Mate Me]

and became the most successful mid major program in history over the next ten years, but please feel free to keep proving what an idiot you are by displaying your lack of knowledge in blazing black and white.

Worst loss in MSU history? Have another beer. I guess the loss by UL two days later had to be their worst loss in history as well since their program is light years ahead of ours historically??

 

[Goat Grindin]

nm

 

[She Mate Me]

http://www.squidoo.com/worse-vs-worst

something you apparently did too little of at MSU.

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

..MSU was a 5 seed.


Butler was a 12 seed.


According to this board, MSU had the seeding required for success in the tournament.


Plus, the committee even showed MSU some love & put us in the Birmingham regional.


All that for getting kicked in the balls with 6.2 seconds left.


http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=234000035

 

[MedDawg]

We lost by 2 to Memphis in 2008 in the 2nd round and they went on to the National Finals.<div>We lost to Xavier in 2004 in the 2nd round and they went on to the Elite Eight and just missed out on the Final Four by 3 points to a 1 seed.</div><div>We lost to Butler by 1 in 2003 in the 1st round and they went on to the Sweet Sixteen.</div><div>We lost at Texas by 4 in 2002 in the 2nd round and they missed out on the Elite Eight by 2 points to a 2 seed.</div><div>
</div><div>So there's a little bit of being 'snake bit' in there. We did catch four hot teams.</div>

 

[Goat Grindin]

You said Butler was our worst loss ever which is ludicrous. When someone calls your ******** you blame other posters on this board. *****.

 

[Goat Grindin]

nm

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

...All I know is I have been watching MSU basketball since Stansbury was hired as HC.


When I saw that Bulter loss transpire, for the next week I hated Stansbury a thousands times worse than coach34 has ever hated "The Recruiter."


The Bulter loss was pure ******** on several different levels. I could give a flying 17 what Butler went on to do after that game.

 

[She Mate Me]

very little on this predominately Stans hating board, but over a few game stretch I do think we caught some pretty bad luck when we were a higher seed in terms of catching hot teams. We also played very well against much higher (and more talented) seeds in years we were a lower seed.

Also, our NCAA wins have been pretty impressive under Stans. The arguments against Stans have always seemed extremely hollow to me. Almost like racism, I think they stem mainly from the fact that he grew up in rural Kentucky and speaks with a dialect that makes him seem unintelligent to some (there, I said it). That being said, it is obvious to me he has forgotten more basketball than anybody (and I mean anybody, Coach34) on this board has ever known.

 

[Goat Grindin]

pusscake

 

[She Mate Me]

properly is going to preach on a straw man argument? PLEASE!?!

 

[squirldawg]

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[She Mate Me]

after the losses to UALR (with no knowledge of what Derek Fisher would become) and Alabama at home would have been. Richard Williams would have been hung in effigy on here.

 

[msudawg200]

They very well could have had a worse loss, but that wasn't his team. I still haven't heard one person mention a loss that is as bad as the #18 team in the country losing at home to Georgia who had an rpi of over 100. Rider is close, but our team was an NIT team that year and definitely did not have the talent that this team has.

I'll also add that I'm not really "overreacting" to this. I'm just asking. I still think we'll finish 9-7 or so in the SEC, win a game or two in the SEC tourney, and get a 7 seed or so. Then we'll do what we do: win the first game and lose by less than 5 to Kansas or Duke. But I haven't really thought we'd make the sweet 16 since SEC play started. I hope they prove me wrong.

 

[She Mate Me]

UT @ UF for a "worse" loss. It happens.

 

[Johnson85]

We got completely screwed having to play essentially an away game against a 6 seed texas. You can use the hot team excuse for Butler and Xavier. <div>
</div><div>But we had second round games against Duke and Memphis where we should have been 2 seeds higher. That's where Stans has to take blame. He's completely blameless for Texas. Maybe catching Butler and Xavier was a bit of being snake bit, but that's why you can't waste good teams. We took Memphis and Duke to the wire, and weren't much worse than either team. But we had to play them in the second round because we played ourselves into the 8/9 slot, which it looks like we might do this year. On the other hand, if we keep playing the way we currently are, we'll probably fall closer to the 11/12 range, so maybe we'll get decent matchups to get into the sweet 16.</div>

 

[MedDawg]

<div>We took Memphis and Duke to the wire, and weren't much worse than either team. But we had to play them in the second round because we played ourselves into the 8/9 slot</div>

I agree with that, especially in 2008 when we played Memphis. Some dumb early losses caused us to have a worse NCAA seeding than we should have, and if I remember correctly, 2008 was the first year in a long time that we had everyone coming back, so we less of an excuse to lose those early OOC games. Don't remember for sure if we did the same the year we played Duke in the NCAA's, but I think we did. And yes, I agree that those early losses are on Stansbury. <div>
</div><div>I'm still on the fence on Stansbury. I was disappointed in our 2009 team, but we needed to keep Stans to sign some of the upcoming HS blue chippers. I supported Stans through 2010 and even through the Hawaii fight last year, but after we got blown out by Bama, I began to want him gone. We got Sidney and Moultrie and signed Hood and Smith, so I figured Stans had served his recruiting purpose, and a better coach might be able to coach them up better.</div><div>
</div><div>Then we finished 2011 a little better, and I found myself back on his side. So I've been supporting him, even after we lost to Akron. We are still 19-6 and will probably still be ranked even after losing to UGA. Only 5 MSU teams in history have started better than 19-6. Four of them in the 50's/60's, and Stans' 2004 25-2 team.</div><div>
</div><div>Throughout this whole fence sitting, I do keep reminding myself that there is a long (and GROWING) list of coaches that much bigger and richer SEC schools have been hiring over the years who have not been able to do better than Stansbury at MSU. </div>

 

[Griffdawg]

That NCAA tourney loss was horrible. If memory serves me right, we were a # 5 seed playing our opening game only 2-1/2 hours from campus (B'ham, AL) against a team full of little white guys from Butler who were completely outmatched by our team physically. We had gone undefeated on the road that year and were rewarded for a good year by playing so close to home.The thing that really stuck in my mind about that game was that we allowed Butler to dictate tempo (slow down) the entire game. Early on in that game, I said to a friend that if Stans didn't make an adjustment to push the action, we would either lose the game or get taken right down to the wire. He looked clueless on the sidelines the whole game while Butler controlled the tempo. Our starting lineup in that game:

C Lawrence Roberts
F Winsome Frazier
F Brandon Vincent
G Timmy Bowers
G Shane Power

We had no business losing that game. Regular season doesn't matter, only results in the NCAA tournament matter. Worst loss in Stans tenure? Hell, yes it was!!!

 

[squirldawg]

The Butler game was with Mario Austin. We didn't have Lawrence Roberts. The 2004 season was when we went undefeated on the road and won the SEC regular season title. Lawrence Roberts got a high ankle sprain against Vanderbilt and then we ran into a hot Xavier team. I still think we beat Xavier with a healthy Lawrence Roberts.<div id="isChromeWebToolbarDiv" style="display:none"></div>

 

[Griffdawg]

Let's see. We had Mario Austin in the middle, Timmy Bowers & Derrick Zimmerman at the guard spots and Ignerski at one of the forward positions. We scored a whopping 46 points and as I stated before, allowed a much less talented team to dictate the tempo during the entire game. It was an awful showing in front of many of our fans who had made the short trip to B'ham.I had already made plans to drive over for the next game against Louisville but never got the chance.