Wow. 170 mil from the Yankees to Teixeira.
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If at first second third fourth times you don't succeed, try again, right? Why not deal out a ridiculous contract to a few more players, thereby making your team look good on paper but in reality nothing more than a glorified all star team that can't win big games?
I don't like the Yanks so I get special pleasure from watching them continue to spend top dollar for teams that don't even make it to the World Series. I've often wondered why the management doesn't look back to the teams that won all those World Series in the late 90's. Were those teams built with overpaid free agent signings? Or, rather, were those teams that played together and were clutch in the playoffs? Which model should they be following today, the one that succeeded to an incredible degree or the one that has been failing over and over again this decade? Hmm, I wonder.</p>
I don't like the Yanks so I get special pleasure from watching them continue to spend top dollar for teams that don't even make it to the World Series. I've often wondered why the management doesn't look back to the teams that won all those World Series in the late 90's. Were those teams built with overpaid free agent signings? Or, rather, were those teams that played together and were clutch in the playoffs? Which model should they be following today, the one that succeeded to an incredible degree or the one that has been failing over and over again this decade? Hmm, I wonder.</p>
but I think they are easier to mock than hate.
After all, the defending AL East Champions and AL Champions have about 1/10th the payroll they do. Even the defending World Champions have a fraction of their payroll. They just don't get it, and never will. And I think it's hilarious.
Storm makes a great point. The dominant Yankee teams of the 90's had a few big-name highly-paid stars. But they also had a lot of "blue-collar" type guys that weren't overpaid. For every Jeter, there was a Jim Leyritz or Joe Girardi. Now, they throw an all-star team out there and expect to win 120 games. Unfortunately, aside from Jeter and a few others, who still play hard and compete, you have a bunch of bloated egos that only care about collecting the big payday and have no real desire to win a championship. And they don't.
After all, the defending AL East Champions and AL Champions have about 1/10th the payroll they do. Even the defending World Champions have a fraction of their payroll. They just don't get it, and never will. And I think it's hilarious.
Storm makes a great point. The dominant Yankee teams of the 90's had a few big-name highly-paid stars. But they also had a lot of "blue-collar" type guys that weren't overpaid. For every Jeter, there was a Jim Leyritz or Joe Girardi. Now, they throw an all-star team out there and expect to win 120 games. Unfortunately, aside from Jeter and a few others, who still play hard and compete, you have a bunch of bloated egos that only care about collecting the big payday and have no real desire to win a championship. And they don't.
...Sabathia had one start in the postseason, and it was after several appearances on short rest. He's a very good pitcher, and while he won't be as dominant in the AL as he was in the NL, he will still compete for Cy Young.
Did the Yankees overpay for Sabathia, Burnett, and Teixiera? You bet. But history has shown us that fat payrolls don't always mean a lot anymore. That said, their lineup is really stout now and their pitching rotation is unreal.
I hate the Yankees.
Did the Yankees overpay for Sabathia, Burnett, and Teixiera? You bet. But history has shown us that fat payrolls don't always mean a lot anymore. That said, their lineup is really stout now and their pitching rotation is unreal.
I hate the Yankees.
AlCoDog said:
I won't argue that. (Good gosh what are the Cardinals going to have to try to pay Albert Pujols in a couple of years?) But it does make sense since they are keeping in the short RF porch with Texieria being a LH hitter.
Here's their potential lineup:
Closer: Mariano Rivera
Rotation: CC Sabathia, Burnett, Wang, Chamberlain, and maybe Phil Hughes IF he can regain his form from when he was a top prospect and maybe Ian Kennedy.
C- Jorge Posada (I'm guessing that they won't re-sign Pudge
1B- Texieria
2B- Cano
3B- ARod
SS- Jeter
RF- Melky Cabrera, maybe Nick Swisher?
CF- Damon
LF- Manny?
DH- Matsui.
That lineup is sick.
He also ran off Buck Showalter, who along with Brian Cashman helped build those teams. Losing Showalter was a big blow for their organization. Yes, Torre did well for them as their manager, but they would have been wise to keep Showalter as their minor league coordinator, and let's not forget, it was Showalter who actually took them to the postseason in 1995, not Torre.
UCantStop15 said:
He is a legit ace and he at least has experience to draw from in the postseason. If they get there, I think he will put it all together.
I wouldn't be surprised if Burnett struggled a little from the New York pressure.
Teixeira is going to make a difference (maybe) but Jeter will be another year older and he's declining some, both at the plate and in the field (where he was never great to begin with.. I have no idea how he has 3 Gold Gloves).. Cano was so-so.. A-Rod finished with good stats but he didn't make a big impact on the season. Melky Cabrera wasn't good at all.
If Burnett and Sabathia both pitch well (which I doubt), they'll make noise but it's still not a lock that they even make the playoffs.
If Burnett and Sabathia both pitch well (which I doubt), they'll make noise but it's still not a lock that they even make the playoffs.
cornered on meaningless HRs, but I don't think he is overrated.
He may be overpaid, but he is about as good as it gets offensively.
I am not necessarily a fan of A-Rod but, in my opinion, A-Rod is untouchable at the hot corner. Pujols is untouchable at 1B. You can't overrate those guys. One of them will probably hold the all-time HR record when they are done.
Teixeira is certainly overrated.
He may be overpaid, but he is about as good as it gets offensively.
I am not necessarily a fan of A-Rod but, in my opinion, A-Rod is untouchable at the hot corner. Pujols is untouchable at 1B. You can't overrate those guys. One of them will probably hold the all-time HR record when they are done.
Teixeira is certainly overrated.
As much as I like this move, I am more excited about the pitchers they brought in. Burnett is a high risk.high reward signing but CC was a hell of a pick up. Baseball season cannot get here soon enough
not to try to get the best players. Their fans would probably think it was worse if they made that much but didn't spend it on players.
Their payroll is less than it was last year. They have signed 3 guys this year, it just happened to be the top 3 on the market. Like I said, they seemed to fill needs this year with younger players instead of going after the aging superstarsArrowDawg said:
I won't say he's overrated because you can't really overrate the numbers he puts up but he's just not clutch. He's twice the ballplayer Derek Jeter is, but if my season is on the line I know which guy I want with a bat in his hands and it's not A-Rod. Just like clockwork, he grounds into double plays or strikes out when they need a big hit. Ask a Yankee fan and see what they say.
Certain guys are great and certain guys are clutch. Some guys are both. Just like Karl Malone and Pat Ewing. Great players, not clutch.
Certain guys are great and certain guys are clutch. Some guys are both. Just like Karl Malone and Pat Ewing. Great players, not clutch.
don't get me wrong tex is one of the top 3 or 4 first basemen in the game but first basemen are a dime a dozen. probably 50% of the league is satisified with who they have on first. i'm thinking they could have waited 3 years with someone inside their system or traded for a top notch prospect and that could have saved them some serious cash. i know they're all about winning now but they are stuck with him for 8 seasons. thats a major commitment. i always thought he benifited a lot from the ballpark in arlington and that homerun porch. he's hit 40+ once and has hovered around 30 the past couple of seasons. so i really don't see him hitting 40+ homeruns anymore. and i'm assuming the steinbrenners are banking on 40 rather than 30. with that said the yankees may field the best offensive and defensive infield in the history of the game next year.
The yankees would rather spend the money than trade away all of their prospects. This is the new direction cashman has taken them in the past few years, and that was proven last year when they passed on Johan. And I agree that 8 years is a long time but they are getting this guy in his prime. It is a little different than some of the bonehead moves george made earlier this decadestate20006 said:
he has LEGIT tape measure power. I saw him put several into the upper deck in Seattle.
And like I said, Yankee Stadium has that short RF (built for the Babe) and with the protection in the lineup that I think he will have, he's going to see that many more pitches to hit. So, even if he benefitted from that in Texas, he will likely benefit at least as much from the New Yankee Stadium.
And like I said, Yankee Stadium has that short RF (built for the Babe) and with the protection in the lineup that I think he will have, he's going to see that many more pitches to hit. So, even if he benefitted from that in Texas, he will likely benefit at least as much from the New Yankee Stadium.
SoxFan343 said:
this contractwont hurt them at all. Tex is just entering his prime and will only be 37 when his contract is up. Much better than some of these ridiculous contracts they have given out. And the good thing is, even with these moves they are 20 million under what they were last year with another huge chunk coming off next year
to get back to ny again to see the new stadium next season. woooo. and for all these clowns saying it's a joke spending all of this money, don't act like your favorite team wouldn't if they had ny's wallet.