Wow, Vandy just got screwed...

OMlawdog

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The ref clearly blew the call and blew the whistle ending the play.

The refs made the play reviewable by claiming there was no whistle, but the replay clearly showed that a whistle did blow. That's it. Regardless how bad the call is, the whistle blows that's it.
 

OMlawdog

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The ref clearly blew the call and blew the whistle ending the play.

The refs made the play reviewable by claiming there was no whistle, but the replay clearly showed that a whistle did blow. That's it. Regardless how bad the call is, the whistle blows that's it.
 

OMlawdog

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The ref clearly blew the call and blew the whistle ending the play.

The refs made the play reviewable by claiming there was no whistle, but the replay clearly showed that a whistle did blow. That's it. Regardless how bad the call is, the whistle blows that's it.
 

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On replay you can clearly see the ref blowing his whistle and marking the ball down. Play is over at that point. Not reviewable. But the SEC has to get Tennessee bowl eligible, so I'm sure the conference office will come out with a statement defending the refs.
 

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And we just got the Liberty Bowl. That is if both us and UT win next weekend.
 

OMlawdog

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The ref knows he blew the whistle, you can see the ref blowing his whistle, and you can hear the whistle. Quite possibly the biggest screw job I have ever witnessed.
 

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"he wasn't down and they never blew the whistle."<div>Only one of those two things is accurate, which I guess is a pretty good average for SEC refs. I wanted the Vandy coach to finally just deck somebody.</div>
 
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There was a whistle, but if that whistle had stood, it would have been TN getting screwed, not Vandy. In the end, the right call was made.
 

OMlawdog

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The replay booth doesn't overturn a whistle. That is the freaking rules. They can't just make **** up as it comes.

The refs screwed up, but that is within the confines of the game. Refs make mistakes, that aren't reviewable. THey can't just decide to ignore the rules when they want to. A whistle ends the play. A whistle blew, that is the end of the discussion.

Sure UT would have gotten screwed on the interception, but its the right call based on the rules. </p>
 

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TN guy wasn't down but if the whistle blows - the play is dead. The whistle obviously blew. Someone was getting screwed.
 

OMlawdog

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In fact he was screaming at them, that it wasn't reviewable. He knew the whistle blew.

Also, where the hell is the ref that blew the whistle. How does he not say "I screwed up, but I blew the play dead, case closed."

The fact that this happened is down right criminal.
 

OMlawdog

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The play was call dead. Thats it. Play is dead. Its not reviewable. End of discussion.

You can't just make up the rules because a ref screwed up. Refs screw up all the time, you can't just decide to ignore them.

The ref lied when he said, "there was no whistle' Just a garden variety lie.

If you are ok with refs lying to fix a mistake, well ok.
 

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You can't review a whistled dead play for a reason. It's not fair to let one team finish out a play after a whistle. Now, I realize that in all likelihood UT scores on that play (or kicks a short FG on their possession), but you can't say for certain that a Vandy player or players didn't hold up after they heard the whistle and saw the ref signaling it dead. If you blow the play dead, it's dead for a 17ing reason (mistake or not) and it's NOT REVIEWABLE. It doesn't change the very likely outcome of that game, but if you replace Vandy with us, I guarandamntee you two would be bitching that we got screwed. You would also be right - because we would have. The refs just glossed over their obvious error like nothing happened. That is wrong and I hope they get called out and reprimanded for it. Complete ********.
 

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blew the hell out of it. The whistle and marking the play down, while <17>'ing UT, was correct....noone is disputing UT wouldn't have been screwed, but that they should have been.

And, that is absolutely the worst call since the 5th down scandal 10-12 years ago...
 

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Because the fact that he allowed the play to be reviewed when he knows he blew the whistle is lying. Just outright lying.

I hoped Franklin would have punched the **** out of him. He deserved it.

The difference in all of this is that UT getting screwed would have sucked for UT, but it would have been within the rules, Vandy got screwed with the refs making **** up, and completely outside the rules.</p>
 

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Watch the replay. The line judge blew the whistle, waived his hands over his head, and pointed to the spot that he thought the intercepting player was down. He was wrong by a long shot, but there was nothing inadvertent about his action. Play dead. Not reviewable. TN should be screwed - not Vandy. Rules be rules.
 

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Yall didn't hear? They changed the rule tonight in TN. Whistle doesn't stop the play. I saw a pic somoza posted on twitter. Dude is out on field with hand in air and whistle in his mouth. Straight Bama cheating there
 

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but if it had been called straight up then UT returns that for a TD and wins the game. If any other call had been made the UT gets screwed. I really don't care but that is the way I see it. Any other call would have been the refs making up rules tocover thier mistake.
 

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There are three possibilities:

1) The line judge pussed out and said he didn't blow the whistle (if so, his *** is getting kicked for making the rest of the crew look like ***)
2) The ref strong armed the line judge and told him to STFU
3) The boot strong armed everybody and and told them to STFU

Regardless, that was a complete shatting over completely obvious rules. They need to be reprimanded.
 

ckDOG

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Vandy players may have quit after the whistle. That's why the rule exists. You can't assume.
 

OMlawdog

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The play wasn't reviewable. They said there was no whistle. There was. You should be agreeing with me based on your last sentence.
 

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No way Vandy catches him.The last man was the guy at the interception point. I really wanted Vandy to win but if they hadonthat call it would have ben a travisty.
 

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ckDOG said:
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<div>Yea, If you go exactly by the rule book Vandy got KINDA screwed. But TN would have been ROYALY screwed had they called it dead and Vandy end up winning the game. My eyes told me that no Vandy player was catching that TN player. So, I agree with the officials final call.</div>
 

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Rules be damned, just do whatever you feel like.

When judgment gets turned against you, don't cry to anyone when somebody's judgment 17s you over in spite of the established rules.
 

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The rule is in place to prevent judgment from being in play. The officiating crew just said that the rules don't apply to them. That's where I get pissed regardless of the scenario. That's the 17ing point of an officiating crew - enforce the rules. If you want to change the rules to read that an official can blow a whistle and let another whistle override him and let the play continue, go right ahead. You will be promptly ridiculed for being a 17ing idiot.
 

OMlawdog

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They did call it dead. They blew the whistle. It was a dead play.

I can't believe so many people aren't up in arms about this. If this had happened to MSU and it was Ole Miss winning in overtime when the play was clearly called dead, im pretty sure that referee would end up dead.
 

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OMlawdog said:
im pretty sure that referee would end up dead.



Who do you think we are? Alabama?

And I agree with you by the way.

I figure if they call it right, UT probably kicks a field goal and wins anyway.
 

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OMlawdog said:
They did call it dead. They blew the whistle. It was a dead play.

I can't believe so many people aren't up in arms about this. If this had happened to MSU and it was Ole Miss winning in overtime when the play was clearly called dead, im pretty sure that referee would end up dead.
My exact thoughts would be that our QB shouldn't have thrown a pick6. I think whatever the refs do, they should get the call right. And my eyes told me that they got it right.
 

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An inadvertent whistle kills the play... end of story... and in all honesty, someone will get screwed. Officials are taught NOT to blow the whistle until they KNOW the play is dead, but it happens. Referees are people.<div>
</div><div>First off, someone on the crew had to have heard it... and speaking from some experience, he was probably harassed some for blowing it, but that's neither here nor there. He should have nutted up and said he blew the whistle... which would have meant an inadvertent whistle. That would mean the team in possession would have had 2 options:</div><div>
</div><div>1. Replay the down from the previous spot</div><div>2. Accept the results of the play from where the whistle was blown (the spot where the ball became dead). </div><div>
</div><div>Inadvertent whistle is the ONLY time an officials whistle kills the ball.</div><div>
</div><div>I'm not sure how replay would effect it, but I know in the NFL, things like forward progress cannot be reviewed (when the pile begins moving forward, then is pushed back and an official blows his whistle), so I would imagine this shouldn't have been reviewed if a whistle was involved. Even if it was a fan that blew the whistle, an inadvertent whistle should have been called in fairness to the rules and to the teams playing. </div>
 

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And there was no way any Vandy player catches him. How about stop blaming the officials and blame the QB that threw the pick6?
 

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Dude blew his whistle, even the commentators acknowledged it. That means play is dead. Drive was over. UT should have gotten the ball 1st and 10 with the opportunity to win the game. I have never seen a play undergo review after a whistle blew. That would be insane. If the whistle never blew you couldn't say with absolute certainty whay would have happened. The whistle supercedes the review.

Sorry, but Jamont's bro shouldn't have ended that game, but with no whistle in all likelihood he does. UT's offense should have had to end the game for the win.
 

OMlawdog

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Just because the result is what you think is just, doesn't mean that they followed the clear rules.

Based on your logic they should have reviewed pass interference calls and maybe if a guy should get a late hit penalty? No one is saying that tenn wouldn't have gotten screwed because the ref screwed up, they would have, but it's a screwing that happens in football. Sometimes make dumb calls and it hurts one team more than another. It happens.

The way Vandy got screwed is that the refs decided to try and cover up their first mistake by outright lying about the fact that their was no whistle. That is just wrong. If refs are allowed to just lie to have decision fit the result they want, then this whole rules thing is just a sham,
 
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1dawgfan09

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You bet it does, but Tennessee won. Either way, somebody was about to get 17ed on that call. If they had stopped play for the whistle (which should never have been blown) it would have been TN. Since they didn't stop play for the whistle, it ended up being Vandy. In all likelihood, the team that was gonna win the end did anyway. But, yes, the play should by rule have been over.
 

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and rules state CLEARLY what the call should have been. There should have been no question by the officials. Hell, even if it wasn't an official that blew the whistle (which it was) and a fan did, it can be interpreted as a play that had just been blown dead. Doesn't matter. I don't see how you can blame the quarterback for "not throwing the pick 6" because that makes ZERO sense. The rules state EXACTLY what to do in the case of an inadvertent whistle and the call SHOULD have been that the ball would have been Tennessee's at the spot the whistle blew. Yea, they would be screwed, but it's spelled out clearly in the rule book. If a coach or player has an issue, they can look it up themselves, but officials are paid to administer the RULES, not make judgements about whether or not the Vandy QB should or should not have thrown the pick 6 or if anyone could or could not have caught him.