Wrestling Thread

[Glenn's Take]

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[Nightwish]

Release her and let her go to AEW, Marigold, or STARDOM (though Marigold the more likely of the two joshi companies)

But that's not going to happen and while she may be frustrated, at least right now I don't think she wants to go elsewhere. What I'm wondering is why there's a disconnect. General creative flaws aside, she has been pushed somewhat. She was put with someone who could talk for her and hopefully get heat. Is it just a case of what we're seeing with Oba and Bron, that for whatever reason WWE doesn't want to push both at once? Because in NXT you had Giulia and Vaquer and NXT pushed Vaquer more. On main, Vaquer was pushed more again, even if they were on separate shows.

We're not paid to do creative's job and they gotta figure it out but I do think this is harder than what fans wanna believe. For me, I'd like to see her go more aggressive. Be an unhinged bully type. Get away from the colorful outfits and be a character that would rather fight you in the dirt than arrive to the ring with a pretty mask over your mouth.

 

[American Dragon]

But that's not going to happen and while she may be frustrated, at least right now I don't think she wants to go elsewhere. What I'm wondering is why there's a disconnect. General creative flaws aside, she has been pushed somewhat. She was put with someone who could talk for her and hopefully get heat. Is it just a case of what we're seeing with Oba and Bron, that for whatever reason WWE doesn't want to push both at once? Because in NXT you had Giulia and Vaquer and NXT pushed Vaquer more. On main, Vaquer was pushed more again, even if they were on separate shows.

We're not paid to do creative's job and they gotta figure it out but I do think this is harder than what fans wanna believe. For me, I'd like to see her go more aggressive. Be an unhinged bully type. Get away from the colorful outfits and be a character that would rather fight you in the dirt than arrive to the ring with a pretty mask over your mouth.

No matter what they do, they aren't going to let her do what she does best and in the style that made her become so popular. It's never going to happen.

She needs to get the hell out of that company along with Carmelo, Bron, Blake Monroe, Ricky Starks, and Dragunov. Completely being wasted on the main roster.

 

[GeraldV]

But that's not going to happen and while she may be frustrated, at least right now I don't think she wants to go elsewhere. What I'm wondering is why there's a disconnect. General creative flaws aside, she has been pushed somewhat. She was put with someone who could talk for her and hopefully get heat. Is it just a case of what we're seeing with Oba and Bron, that for whatever reason WWE doesn't want to push both at once? Because in NXT you had Giulia and Vaquer and NXT pushed Vaquer more. On main, Vaquer was pushed more again, even if they were on separate shows.

We're not paid to do creative's job and they gotta figure it out but I do think this is harder than what fans wanna believe. For me, I'd like to see her go more aggressive. Be an unhinged bully type. Get away from the colorful outfits and be a character that would rather fight you in the dirt than arrive to the ring with a pretty mask over your mouth.

Didn’t she and what’s her name (Jordan Grace) get in trouble for being too physical in a match the other day? I think I read that. I’d have her lean into the physicality and aggression as well, because that’s her bread and butter. Not all Asian people have to have the flowery costumes.

and did I just see that Mariah May hasn’t had a tv match in over three months now? Do they not have anyone who writes for the women there?

 

[American Dragon]

Didn’t she and what’s her name (Jordan Grace) get in trouble for being too physical in a match the other day? I think I read that. I’d have her lean into the physicality and aggression as well, because that’s her bread and butter. Not all Asian people have to have the flowery costumes.

and did I just see that Mariah May hasn’t had a tv match in over three months now? Do they not have anyone who writes for the women there?

It's been like 100 days since Blake Monroe has had a TV match, the last coming on April 21 on NXT. She has yet to make her main roster, in-ring debut.

It's been now over 100 days since Liv Morgan defended her title.

Jordynne Grace hasn't had a TV match since April (no, I don't count Main Event as TV)

Jacy Jayne beat Charlotte Flair in her second match on Smackdown and has proceeded to lose to Raquel Rodriguez, PAIGE, and Tiffany Stratton. Congrats I guess for beating jobber Candice LeRae?

Roxanne Perez has just one TV singles win this year against Maxxine Durpri and has only been three TV singles matches this entire calendar year.

And people in WWE claim to be baffled by how Tony Khan is using Persephone while WWE is committing crimes against humanity in their women's division.

 

[American Dragon]

If Leon Slater loses the X Division title match at Lockdown, then his entire title line is completely erased from their record books.

If this guy isn't going to AEW then I don't know what the point of any of this is.

 

[American Dragon]

Putting the reunion in a dark match

 

[American Dragon]

 

[Laparkafan]

IYO was in a similar spot a few years ago and I don’t know what changed but almost like the snap of a finger she was over and now is one of the most over women. I guess the wwe fans finally appreciated her style and they let her cook with Rhea.

 

[Laparkafan]

 

[Laparkafan]

 

[Nightwish]

Didn’t she and what’s her name (Jordan Grace) get in trouble for being too physical in a match the other day? I think I read that. I’d have her lean into the physicality and aggression as well, because that’s her bread and butter. Not all Asian people have to have the flowery costumes.

and did I just see that Mariah May hasn’t had a tv match in over three months now? Do they not have anyone who writes for the women there?

Haven't heard about her in hot water over the match. It was very physical and got a great reaction. You could tell her and Grace were enjoying the hell out of it. That is something that's certainly missing in WWE.

You're correct on May. It's gotten pretty dumb but best guess is they'll heat her up after Summerslam. Again, its stupid but they seem to have this theory that if you're not apart of a big weekend, they don't use you hardly at all beforehand. You see it with NXT. People will want someone called up but it'll be Feb and it's like they don't want to give someone a lot of main roster attention if there's no WM plan for them, so they come up after the event. Begs the question though - why the hell did they bring her up if they weren't ready to throw her into a feud?

 

[American Dragon]

Wrestling journalists are very obnoxious but others have also complained about the length of shows. That's more of a "you" problem though at this point. You know what you're getting into with AEW PPVs. It's a monthly marathon and every match gets anywhere between 18-35 minutes. If Brock and Oba were in AEW, their matches would get like 21 minutes and Dragon Lee vs Evans would get 26 minutes. With overruns, those hurt Dynamite's overall rating but what else would WBD put at 10pm on a Wednesday? TK isn't going to say "no, I'm fine with my two hour slot and do not want more national tv time."

There's no one that hates wrestling more than the people who get paid to cover it.

Example A:



Sorry man, but that's your job. What, you think someone that covers the NBA or the NFL gets to just ignore part of the game because they decided to step away for longer than the commercial break? No, that's not how it works. If you can't do the job then find a new one.

For the record, I hate the guy the "journalist" replied to. I wasn't posting it because of his overly exaggerated dig at WWE.

 

[GeraldV]

Can’t wait for KO to return. That’s another segment I’d try to watch a week.

 

[GeraldV]

There's no one that hates wrestling more than the people who get paid to cover it.

Example A:



Sorry man, but that's your job. What, you think someone that covers the NBA or the NFL gets to just ignore part of the game because they decided to step away for longer than the commercial break? No, that's not how it works. If you can't do the job then find a new one.

For the record, I hate the guy the "journalist" replied to. I wasn't posting it because of his overly exaggerated dig at WWE.

I don’t like every part of my job, most parts actually, lol. But I don’t piss and moan about it like so many wrestling “journalists” do. That’s why I hate the great majority of them.

 

[Nightwish]

IYO was in a similar spot a few years ago and I don’t know what changed but almost like the snap of a finger she was over and now is one of the most over women. I guess the wwe fans finally appreciated her style and they let her cook with Rhea.

Yes. Thing with IYO is she's very animated and does the fingers to the shakey head thing that anyone can do. It's like what was said on Unreal, the reason the Oba strut is over is because anyone can do it, age and weight doesn't matter. IYO ended up delivering in big matches and allowed her personality to shine. She's golden because her theme and look is unique to her, is great in ring, and has a gesture a 3 year old as well as an 87 year old can do. Mic skills aren't really there but she's forgiven because of the slight language barrier.

 

[Laparkafan]

So I guess I’m finally able to get the espn thing. Can only watch on my phone on espn app bc that’s how my espn app synced with yttv and acknowledges I have yttv.
Bizarre but whatever I guess there’s gotta be a better way for this to work.

 

[American Dragon]

Is WWE not aware that AI can be proofread before being sent off to be printed?

 

[Laparkafan]

Oba/Brock finishing night 1?

 

[GeraldV]

Oba/Brock finishing night 1?

Has to be, IMHO.

 

[Laparkafan]

 

[Laparkafan]

That wasn’t the greatest match to open the show.

 

[American Dragon]

That wasn’t the greatest match to open the show.

Well it was Liv Morgan so hopefully you at least went in with low expectations