WVPATX....why no post on officer killed in Colorado?

MountaineerWV

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I mean you fill this board up with the cops killed in the streets. Why not this time? Perhaps because it was done by a right-wing nut that is more aligned with your agenda and political beliefs?
 

MountaineerWV

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No, not stupid. He posts every time a cop was killed in the streets. Yet, he's silent on this one.
 

dave

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No, not stupid. He posts every time a cop was killed in the streets. Yet, he's silent on this one.
Probably because this is not the case of a cop being assasinated for being a cop. Like I said, stupid, even for you strawman.
 

MountaineerWV

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A cop killed is a cop killed. This man went in to kill people. Cops were there. He targeted them. So, I say that's an assassination.....but keep making excuses to not show the hypocrisy of the right wing.
 

dave

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A cop killed is a cop killed. This man went in to kill people. Cops were there. He targeted them. So, I say that's an assassination.....but keep making excuses to not show the hypocrisy of the right wing.
It is poor logic. What hypocrisy? You are ipset about something and making wild accusations. I think you dont understand why you are wrong. Are you by chance female?
 

MountaineerWV

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It is poor logic. What hypocrisy? You are ipset about something and making wild accusations. I think you dont understand why you are wrong. Are you by chance female?

So, what you are basically saying is that since it wasn't a black guy mad at cops and shooting them then it's not worthy? OK...got it.
 

dave

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So, what you are basically saying is that since it wasn't a black guy mad at cops and shooting them then it's not worthy? OK...got it.
Its late in the season for hay strawman but who said it was not worthy? Its just not the same thing as someone assasinating a cop because he was a cop.
 

MountaineerWV

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Its late in the season for hay strawman but who said it was not worthy? Its just not the same thing as someone assasinating a cop because he was a cop.

Well what about assassinated people because they were at a planned parenthood location? Oh, wait, that's different too....

And can we now agree that he was politically motivated......I mean it's now been reported that's what he told officials......and politically motivated would mean right-wing motivated for him.......but this board is silent about that......hmmm.......
 

dave

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Well what about assassinated people because they were at a planned parenthood location? Oh, wait, that's different too....

And can we now agree that he was politically motivated......I mean it's now been reported that's what he told officials......and politically motivated would mean right-wing motivated for him.......but this board is silent about that......hmmm.......
You were the one comparing it to assasinating police officers. I just pointed out the stupid logic. Now you want to shift the argument. I dont know why ir how it matters if he was motivated by right wing or left wing motives. I would hope that fair minded oeopke would agree that murdering shitbags like this guy get the needle as soon as possible. Why does it matter so much to you and others what his motives are? Is there some right wing movement out there to kill people?
 

MountaineerWV

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You were the one comparing it to assasinating police officers. I just pointed out the stupid logic. Now you want to shift the argument. I dont know why ir how it matters if he was motivated by right wing or left wing motives. I would hope that fair minded oeopke would agree that murdering shitbags like this guy get the needle as soon as possible. Why does it matter so much to you and others what his motives are? Is there some right wing movement out there to kill people?

Why does it matter? Because of a$$hats like WVPATX who openly point out one side of ever situation on here. And Dave, I believe if this man was motivated by left-wing politics you and others would be all over on here and probably would be blaming this on Obama (you still may, somehow).

And this guy is a domestic terrorist. His actions were POLITICALLY motivated and was designed to create terror and cause deaths to meet his agenda.

TERRORISM: the use of violence and/or intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

So, was this guy a Muslim? Because only Muslims are terrorists. Right?
 

dave

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Why does it matter? Because of a$$hats like WVPATX who openly point out one side of ever situation on here. And Dave, I believe if this man was motivated by left-wing politics you and others would be all over on here and probably would be blaming this on Obama (you still may, somehow).

And this guy is a domestic terrorist. His actions were POLITICALLY motivated and was designed to create terror and cause deaths to meet his agenda.

TERRORISM: the use of violence and/or intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

So, was this guy a Muslim? Because only Muslims are terrorists. Right?
Its hard to debate rationally with someone who already thinks they know what everyone else thinks so I wont bother.

I agree the guy is a terrorist. I think he should be given due process and the exterminated. Why would he be a muslim? More asinine logic?
 

MountaineerWV

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Its hard to debate rationally with someone who already thinks they know what everyone else thinks so I wont bother.

I agree the guy is a terrorist. I think he should be given due process and the exterminated. Why would he be a muslim? More asinine logic?

A few posters on this board said that the United States should openly declare war on Islam because only Muslims commit acts of terror. When I pointed out that other religions and people (ex. Boxers in China, Irish, and Christians) do so as well, they said "nope". I made the comment that focusing on ending terrorism that might kill 1,000 Americans each year while ignoring, or putting little effort in to the violence at home when Americans are killing Americans in the 10,000's each year.

Well, this guy is an American who committed an act of terror in the United States. I've heard little, to nothing, from those individuals on here.
 

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A few posters on this board said that the United States should openly declare war on Islam because only Muslims commit acts of terror. When I pointed out that other religions and people (ex. Boxers in China, Irish, and Christians) do so as well, they said "nope". I made the comment that focusing on ending terrorism that might kill 1,000 Americans each year while ignoring, or putting little effort in to the violence at home when Americans are killing Americans in the 10,000's each year.

Well, this guy is an American who committed an act of terror in the United States. I've heard little, to nothing, from those individuals on here.
Have they nailed down a motivation yet? Is he a sleeper cell from some as yet to be named terror group? He's a nut bag for sure...just not sure what type yet.
 

dave

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A few posters on this board said that the United States should openly declare war on Islam because only Muslims commit acts of terror. When I pointed out that other religions and people (ex. Boxers in China, Irish, and Christians) do so as well, they said "nope". I made the comment that focusing on ending terrorism that might kill 1,000 Americans each year while ignoring, or putting little effort in to the violence at home when Americans are killing Americans in the 10,000's each year.

Well, this guy is an American who committed an act of terror in the United States. I've heard little, to nothing, from those individuals on here.
I dont know about what you said there but I read in this thread that you suggested the guy must be a muslim because only muslims are terrorists. That is stupid. I have a feeling you are misrepreaenting other peoples words because you have a history of strawman logic.
 

MountaineerWV

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I dont know about what you said there but I read in this thread that you suggested the guy must be a muslim because only muslims are terrorists. That is stupid. I have a feeling you are misrepreaenting other peoples words because you have a history of strawman logic.

No, no I'm not. Others on here believe that Islam creates terrorists through its teachings. It's been said multiple times by multiple people on here. And the poster above is proving it by denying this AMERICAN as a terrorist...even though he fits the definition of "terrorism" to a tee.
 

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Pretty stupid post even for you.
Dave...I often respect your opinion although I don't always agree with it, and that is fine...but MountaineerWV is bang on...where is the PATX wingnut when you need him???!!!??? I hear the wind whistling about now....
 

dave

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No, no I'm not. Others on here believe that Islam creates terrorists through its teachings. It's been said multiple times by multiple people on here. And the poster above is proving it by denying this AMERICAN as a terrorist...even though he fits the definition of "terrorism" to a tee.
Islam does create terrorism via its teachings. It is written i to their Bible. Suggesting otherwise is ignorant.
 

dave

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Dave...I often respect your opinion although I don't always agree with it, and that is fine...but MountaineerWV is bang on...where is the PATX wingnut when you need him???!!!??? I hear the wind whistling about now....
Spot on about what? Has WVUPATX posted anywhere on the site today?
 

torontoeers

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Spot on about what? Has WVUPATX posted anywhere on the site today?
The post was created Friday, I'll be real impressed if the wing nut shows up by late Sunday ( seeing as he posts his agenda daily) and supplies an argument that isn't laced in partisan ********....
 

dave

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The post was created Friday, I'll be real impressed if the wing nut shows up by late Sunday ( seeing as he posts his agenda daily) and supplies an argument that isn't laced in partisan ********....
If he answers it will be laced in partisan agenda just like the question.
 
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PriddyBoy

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I think the shooter may have had issues. I mean, who builds their house in the middle of the road?
 
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I think the shooter may have had issues. I mean, who builds their house in the middle of the road?
Christians do not go out and kill people, this guy is pretty deranged. Hopefully, Colorado has the death penalty.
 

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Colorado does have capital punishment, but I don't think they've executed anybody since the 70s. However, if he's charged and convicted federally, he would be more apt to be executed than by Colorado.
 

MountaineerWV

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Christians do not go out and kill people, this guy is pretty deranged. Hopefully, Colorado has the death penalty.


And this is my point.......Muslims kill people, Christians don't. Translation = if you kill someone and you are a Christian, then you are NOT a Christian thus it doesn't count as a "Christian" killing someone. However, if you are a Muslim and you kill someone, then you are still a Muslim. Wait....I'm confused.....
 

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It is sickening to see right wingers deny and excuse the violent behavior that stems from their own dangerous rhetoric and positions. It never changes though since it is key to their strategy of fooling the ignorant public to support the GOP platform and playbook.
 
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dave

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And this is my point.......Muslims kill people, Christians don't. Translation = if you kill someone and you are a Christian, then you are NOT a Christian thus it doesn't count as a "Christian" killing someone. However, if you are a Muslim and you kill someone, then you are still a Muslim. Wait....I'm confused.....
There is no form of mainstream Christianity that condones or even suggests violence as a resolution of disagreements or issues. There is a pretty large segment of Islam that preaches Jihad. That is the difference.
 
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MountaineerWV

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There is no form of mainstream Christianity that condones or even suggests violence as a resolution of disagreements or issues. There is a pretty large segment of Islam that preaches Jihad. That is the difference.

Really? Then how come it took me all of 2 seconds to find a few?

1. "Army of God"
2. "Eastern Lightning"
3. "LRA"
4. "NLFT"
5. "Concerned Christians"
 

dave

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Really? Then how come it took me all of 2 seconds to find a few?

1. "Army of God"
2. "Eastern Lightning"
3. "LRA"
4. "NLFT"
5. "Concerned Christians"

I have never heard of 4 of those and the Army of God is not a mainstream christian group by any means.
 

MountaineerWV

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I guess there would be no islamic terrorism if the media didnt report it.

Not saying that. But since you said you've never heard of those Christian groups, is it because the media didn't report their beliefs and doings? I think so. Just because you haven't heard of them doesn't mean they do not exist.
 

TarHeelEer

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No, no I'm not. Others on here believe that Islam creates terrorists through its teachings. It's been said multiple times by multiple people on here. And the poster above is proving it by denying this AMERICAN as a terrorist...even though he fits the definition of "terrorism" to a tee.

Wow ya'll have a problem with the English language.

Islam, and the Quran, does create terrorists. That doesn't mean every Muslim is a terrorist, that every terrorist is Islamic, or that we should declare war on Islam. It just means a far greater percentage of Muslims will be terrorists than any other group on the planet.