WVU needs to be ‘one of most improved teams’ in 2020

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While some trolls here try to tell you everything is "hunky dory" as WVU had one of its worst seasons in the last 20, at least Brown seems to understand lots of improvement is required going into next season--hopefully he can turn things around quickly........

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http://wvmetronews.com/2019/12/06/b...eds-to-be-one-of-most-improved-teams-in-2020/


Brown vows that WVU needs to be ‘one of most improved teams’ in 2020


By Alex Hickey in Sports, WVU Sports | December 06, 2019 at 8:04PM

MORGANTOWN, W.Va. — What was good enough for West Virginia in Neal Brown’s first season at the helm isn’t going to cut it in Year 2.

“A 5-7 record is not good enough,” Brown said in a season wrap-up press conference on Friday afternoon. “That doesn’t meet the standard here. I’m well aware of that.....

“It’s going to be a huge offseason for us,” Brown said. “We’ve got to be focused on being one of the most improved teams in the country next year.”.....

“The key area of improvement offensively is run-game production,” Brown said. “If we want to make strides offensively, we’ve got to be able to run the ball better.”

The Mountaineers were 129th out of 130 FBS teams with 2.6 yards per carry, making it almost literally impossible to run the ball worse.
“Defensively, we’ve got to increase our takeaways,” Brown said. “Those are the two biggest statistical pieces we need to see improvement in.”The Mountaineers tied for 101st nationally with 14 takeaways.

Brown said the coaching staff has to improve, too.


“We have to look at schematically what we can do about it,” Brown said. “When you’re as poor as we were in that area, everything’s on the table. There is a clear gap between that and anything else we have to get better at offensively.”
 

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Unfortunately, improving the run game is NOT off to a good start:

Running Back Lamy Constant Decommits from West Virginia

Yesterday, class of 2020 running back Lamy Constant (Brooklyn, NY) announced that he would be decommitting from West Virginia and re-opening his recruitment.

This comes as a complete shock as Constant committed to the Mountaineers just a little under a month ago.


https://www.si.com/college/westvirg...ck-lamy-constant-decommits-from-west-virginia
 

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Seems Constants decommit was based on "miscommunication with the coaching staff"

SI had this to say:

It's unclear as to why Constant had miscommunication with the coaching staff, but this is a big loss for the 2020 class. He originally committed to West Virginia over LSU, Michigan State, Texas A&M and several others.
 

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Hopefully we don’t see the same type of downward trend in record we saw with Holgorsen when he was here over his first three years..,

Year 1: 10-3
Year 2: 7-6
Year 3: 4-8
 

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Brown has to stand on his own two feet.

Holgorsen won 10 games his first year, destroyed heavily favored Clemson too.

Then he had to completely rebuild WVUs football team into one that could compete in a completely new conference-- one WVU was not built to compete in.

Brown had none of that challenge, inherited a team that had missed out on the BIG 12 CCG last year by 3 pts, and quickly turned WVU into a bottom feeder in all of fbs.

WVU isnt switching conferences next year either, and the schedule wont be easier either. Hell have to make tremendous strides in just about every category to win even 5 games.
 

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Bucky Biggest dumbass since WV pride304. Oh wait is it possible? Yes they are one in the same.
 

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While some trolls here try to tell you everything is "hunky dory" as WVU had one of its worst seasons in the last 20, at least Brown seems to understand lots of improvement is required going into next season--hopefully he can turn things around quickly........

excerpt:
http://wvmetronews.com/2019/12/06/b...eds-to-be-one-of-most-improved-teams-in-2020/


Brown vows that WVU needs to be ‘one of most improved teams’ in 2020


By Alex Hickey in Sports, WVU Sports | December 06, 2019 at 8:04PM

MORGANTOWN, W.Va. — What was good enough for West Virginia in Neal Brown’s first season at the helm isn’t going to cut it in Year 2.

“A 5-7 record is not good enough,” Brown said in a season wrap-up press conference on Friday afternoon. “That doesn’t meet the standard here. I’m well aware of that.....

“It’s going to be a huge offseason for us,” Brown said. “We’ve got to be focused on being one of the most improved teams in the country next year.”.....

“The key area of improvement offensively is run-game production,” Brown said. “If we want to make strides offensively, we’ve got to be able to run the ball better.”

The Mountaineers were 129th out of 130 FBS teams with 2.6 yards per carry, making it almost literally impossible to run the ball worse.
“Defensively, we’ve got to increase our takeaways,” Brown said. “Those are the two biggest statistical pieces we need to see improvement in.”The Mountaineers tied for 101st nationally with 14 takeaways.

Brown said the coaching staff has to improve, too.


“We have to look at schematically what we can do about it,” Brown said. “When you’re as poor as we were in that area, everything’s on the table. There is a clear gap between that and anything else we have to get better at offensively.”

My link trumps your link...

http://wvmetronews.com/2019/12/05/n...ng-it-more-obvious-wvu-lucked-out-with-brown/

As college football enters another coaching silly season, it is clear that the greatest gift Holgorsen provided the program, save for that blowout Orange Bowl win over Clemson, was the perfect timing of his departure.

If Holgorsen didn’t exercise his opportunity to leave early for Houston, West Virginia would have been stuck changing coaches this offseason. And in this job market, it seems unlikely Brown would have made his way to Morgantown.

It’s conceivable that Brown would not have been at WVU.

If Houston hadn’t been prompted to replace Major Applewhite after just two years thank to an embarrassing 70-14 bowl loss to Army, and if Brown had put together another nine- or 10-win season at Troy, there is a chance West Virginia would be opening the 2020 season against Neal Brown. It’s hard to think of a more ideal fit for Florida State in the current job market.

The vast majority of West Virginia fans are no doubt thankful history did not play out that way.
 

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Brown is losing at WVU. Players are leaving. Players are decommitting. In multiple categories Brown has WVU rated very close to the bottom of fbs. Rushing, takeaways, Interceptions. Other areas too.

This is not good.

Lots of work to be done to turn this around, it will take more than lashing out at people who bring it up-because you can't admit how wrong you were about the success of the previous staff and are angry its been pointed out, that is for certain.
 

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Brown is losing at WVU. Players are leaving. Players are decommitting. In multiple categories Brown has WVU rated very close to the bottom of fbs. Rushing, takeaways, Interceptions. Other areas too.

This is not good.

Lots of work to be done to turn this around, it will take more than lashing out at people who bring it up-because you can't admit how wrong you were about the success of the previous staff and are angry its been pointed out, that is for certain.

Yup. WVU is the only school in America that has players leaving. It's freaking tragic. We should let the players coach themselves and save millions of dollars a year.

OU is ranked lower than WVU in turnover margin. Aren't they a playoff team? Oklahoma State is ranked below 100 as well in interceptions. They finished 3rd right. Rushing was awful without no doubt but still put up a 5-7 record despite that. Shows growth of an awful team.
 
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At the time, of 302,000 student-athletes competing in Divisions I and II during the 2018-19 academic year, more than 15,000 had entered their names in the Transfer Portal.

Of those 15,000, about 10,000 were trying to transfer from Division I schools, where portal use is required, and 5,000 were attempting to transfer from Division II schools, where portal use is optional.

Of the 10,000 Division I student-athletes entered in the portal, 25% were football players. About 50% of Division I football players in the portal were walk-ons who receive no athletics financial aid and likely were seeking scholarship offers from other schools.

And these stats were from Oct. 25th, 2018. I'm sure it's even higher now. Buckaineer will tell you 25% of those 10,000 were WVU players. Yes we have had 2,500 that were pushed out by Brown this season. They didn't enter the transfer Portal on their own Brown forced them out.
 

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Yup. WVU is the only school in America that has players leaving. It's freaking tragic. We should let the players coach themselves and save millions of dollars a year.

OU is ranked lower than WVU in turnover margin. Aren't they a playoff team? Oklahoma State is ranked below 100 as well in interceptions. They finished 3rd right. Rushing was awful without no doubt but still put up a 5-7 record despite that. Shows growth of an awful team.

I do wonder how our running attack can get better in one year. Personnel wise we loose McKivitz & Wickline. And Sills is rehabbing his shoulder. So his return is a question. The interior OL returns the same guys that could not get a push this year. J Gamble is a good add but don’t think that is enough to allow us to get a consistent attack. Just hope there is action here I don’t see.
 
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Well ... everybody still here next year will be one year older, stronger and wiser.

That might help.
 

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I do wonder how our running attack can get better in one year. Personnel wise we loose McKivitz & Wickline. And Sills is rehabbing his shoulder. The interior OL returns the same guys that could not get a push this year. J Gamble is a good add but don’t think that is enough to allow us to ge a consistent attack.
Just hope there is action here I don’t see.

There some Red Shirts but how good are they is yet to be seen. Getting some JC players will happen but could take them all summer to get ready and will still need some live game action to tell. There are 9 freshmen on the team with 6 of them I think that got no playing time this year several of them did the 4 game red shirt rule. So things are not as bad as number wise. Just do not know what we have.

Have Chris Mayo, Jacob Gamble, Zach Frazier commitments.
 

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Lay off the old Buckeroo folks. Heard that his mommy made him clean his room and take a bath yesterday. Makes him cranky and dumber than normal.
 

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At the time, of 302,000 student-athletes competing in Divisions I and II during the 2018-19 academic year, more than 15,000 had entered their names in the Transfer Portal.

Of those 15,000, about 10,000 were trying to transfer from Division I schools, where portal use is required, and 5,000 were attempting to transfer from Division II schools, where portal use is optional.

Of the 10,000 Division I student-athletes entered in the portal, 25% were football players. About 50% of Division I football players in the portal were walk-ons who receive no athletics financial aid and likely were seeking scholarship offers from other schools.

And these stats were from Oct. 25th, 2018. I'm sure it's even higher now. Buckaineer will tell you 25% of those 10,000 were WVU players. Yes we have had 2,500 that were pushed out by Brown this season. They didn't enter the transfer Portal on their own Brown forced them out.
Are those facts? Ole bucky thrives on facts...he may not like yours.
 

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I do wonder how our running attack can get better in one year. Personnel wise we loose McKivitz & Wickline. And Sills is rehabbing his shoulder. So his return is a question. The interior OL returns the same guys that could not get a push this year. J Gamble is a good add but don’t think that is enough to allow us to get a consistent attack. Just hope there is action here I don’t see.

It is a concern. Oline play hasn't been great and outside of maybe one addition the RBs--which Brown and the media touted prior to the season, should be mostly unchanged. When you realize that WVU was 129 out of 130 schools under Brown--its a big concern and will affect the success or failure of the program quite a bit.
 

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It is a concern. Oline play hasn't been great and outside of maybe one addition the RBs--which Brown and the media touted prior to the season, should be mostly unchanged. When you realize that WVU was 129 out of 130 schools under Brown--its a big concern and will affect the success or failure of the program quite a bit.

 

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Hopefully we don’t see the same type of downward trend in record we saw with Holgorsen when he was here over his first three years..,

Year 1: 10-3
Year 2: 7-6
Year 3: 4-8
Yes I think it will be just like that but start with year 3 and end with year 1. Actually think next year will be better than 7-6.
 

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Bout to put this asshat on ignore. He’s simply a mongoloid and is NOT a WVU fan. He is right there with TVZ and his 25 alter egos.
 

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Wanna bet? I’m willing to put some money down.

You are probably one that also proclaimed "anyone can step in and immediately do better than Holgorsen" while you were lying about his accomplishments while at WVU.

That's all that anyone needs to know. Vacant words with nothing but lies to back them up.
 

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Here's the schedule--WHERE are the "more than 7 wins" coming from?


Sep. 5 vs Florida State SeminolesMercedes-Benz Stadium, Atlanta, GA

Sep. 12 Eastern Kentucky ColonelsMountaineer Field, Morgantown, WV

Sep. 19 Maryland TerrapinsMountaineer Field, Morgantown, WV

Sep. 26 Kansas State Wildcats (HC) Mountaineer Field, Morgantown, WV

Oct. 3 at Texas Tech Red RaidersJones AT&T Stadium, Lubbock, TX

Oct. 10 TCU Horned FrogsMountaineer Field, Morgantown, WV

Oct. 17 at Texas LonghornsDKR-Texas Memorial Stadium, Austin, TX

Oct. 24 Kansas JayhawksMountaineer Field, Morgantown, WV

Nov. 7 Oklahoma SoonersMountaineer Field, Morgantown, WV

Nov. 14 at Oklahoma State CowboysBoone Pickens Stadium, Stillwater, OK

Nov. 21 Baylor BearsMountaineer Field, Morgantown, WV

Nov. 28 at Iowa State CyclonesJack Trice Stadium, Ames, IA
 

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I see one "probable" win--Eastern, KY and after the FCS close call this year even that isn't a guarantee.

ISU
Baylor
OU
OK State
Texas
Texas Tech

all but guaranteed losses

and FSU, Kansas, KSU, Maryland, TCU 50-50 tossups.

Looks like 6-6 will be the likely good outcome, but with FSU, KSU, TCU three of those toss ups, its going to be difficult to make that. Even Maryland usually starts off tough and Miles has improved KU already on the football field--will likely be better next season.
 
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I see one "probable" win--Eastern, KY and after the FCS close call this year even that isn't a guarantee.

ISU
Baylor
OU
OK State
Texas
Texas Tech

all but guaranteed losses

and FSU, Kansas, KSU, Maryland, TCU 50-50 tossups.

Looks like 6-6 will be the likely good outcome, but with FSU, KSU, TCU three of those toss ups, its going to be difficult to make that. Even Maryland usually starts off tough and Miles has improved KU already on the football field--will likely be better next season.

WINS
Eastern Kentucky
Baylor
Texas Tech
Kansas
KSU
Maryland
TCU

Bucky schooled again.
 

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Yep, will write down all the grandiose claims of those who actually thought "anyone can step in and immediately do better" -- a claim that will live in infamy.

These same posters though have always lived in an alternate universe where up is down and wrong is right, so its not really surprising.

What are the excuses going to be next season?
 

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Wow, a poster thinks they "schooled me" LOL by posting 7 (SEVEN) imaginary wins that haven't occurred---including two teams that beat WVU this year--one in a crushing home blowout--when the discussion is about WVU winning MORE than 7 games next year (which of course they have not done).

WINS (imagined)
Eastern Kentucky
Baylor
Texas Tech
Kansas
KSU
Maryland
TCU

Much more likely

WINS (possible)
Eastern KY
Kansas
Maryland


with TCU a tossup, KSU a tossup

Texas Tech will likely stomp WVU in Lubbock again as they did this past year at WVU.
 

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Maybe if you buy the board. Discussing reality doesn't get one banned, unlike TROLLING other posters.

Maybe I will.

With posters like you, its already being devalued.

Of course, the only reality you live in is an alternative one. The one where Dana comes in the front door and says "Honey, I'm home!"
 

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Wow, a poster thinks they "schooled me" LOL by posting 7 (SEVEN) imaginary wins that haven't occurred---including two teams that beat WVU this year--one in a crushing home blowout--when the discussion is about WVU winning MORE than 7 games next year (which of course they have not done).

WINS (imagined)
Eastern Kentucky
Baylor
Texas Tech
Kansas
KSU
Maryland
TCU

Much more likely

WINS (possible)
Eastern KY
Kansas
Maryland


with TCU a tossup, KSU a tossup

Texas Tech will likely stomp WVU in Lubbock again as they did this past year at WVU.

TCU pretend team in Morgantown - WIN
KSU those experienced guys that lost to WVU in their own place will be long gone. - WIN
Baylor little more difficult to beat WVU in Morgantown. Something they have not done. - WIN

Definite WINS
Eastern KY.
Maryland
Kansas (this ain't LSU it's KU)

Oops theirs 6

TOSS UP
FSU
TEXAS TECH has no balls - I'll give you a tossup on that one but heavy lean towards WVU

Losses
OU
Texas
OSU
ISU
 
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Baylor is losing a lot and maybe their head coach but you have to wait and see with them.

A lot of those players are Art Briles' recruits especially at the skill positions.
Even then they have some speed left but not as much.

Just matters if they can replace the talent and how quick.

Especially if Jacob Zeno is out for the starting job after tasting it.
Has an arm and can be elusive in the open field.