Add to that the basketball program. The NCAA'S Council today or tomorrow will pass a rule allowing athletes to switch schools without losing a year of eligibility and be immediately eligible to participate at the new school. This rule will make it easier for Blue Blood programs to cherry pick schools like WVU for the best talent....all but insuring most schools becoming a development program for the big boys. This will kill off programs like the Mountaineers in a period of time.
WVU 's football program is about to end.
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Don’t know about ending programs but it is one a few factors that are making it harder and harder to wvu sports. Or sports in general for that matter
The NCAA is becoming a benchmark for stupidity. They will lose fans, money, support and in the end, their jobs. Let them keep destroying college sports and watch fans lose interest on a massive scale. Its' already happening.
without a doubt the NCAA leadership (??) has their collective heads up their rectal cavity so far the special forces couldn't find it. Are their any limits to how many individual athletes there can be in the categories - frosh, soph, jun and sen?
This is getting truly stupid. Started with scholarships and recruiting dudes who wouldn't qualify for school without being able to play children's games. Then tv money corrupts scheduling and rivalries. Then a facilities money war. And now this. We are heading to a virtual professional minor league of 20 or so Blue Bloods only. Fans are carching on.
It's all about the big plan to separate at least 32 to 40 schools into an upper class of minor pro sports where players get paid and pampered like the pro stars do. There will be 4 divisions of 8 or 10 schools. Top 2 teams in each conference will enter an 8 team playoff. Instead of the recruiting they will have a lottery draft to get high school players of their chose and then rummage through the rest of filth know as lower class teams for players that have improved their game to a better level.
Hopefully the rest of the college sports world will return to being student athletes as it was all intended to be in the first place. Those million dollar coaching salaries would be gone.
The ones left out of the super obnoxious elite groups could then have a true 16 team playoff.
Hopefully the rest of the college sports world will return to being student athletes as it was all intended to be in the first place. Those million dollar coaching salaries would be gone.
The ones left out of the super obnoxious elite groups could then have a true 16 team playoff.
Somehow, some way, not sure yet, but something all about Texas will overtake the jest of this thread.
And . . .
we all know how it will happen.
And . . .
we all know how it will happen.
Allen...you lay a probable....somewhat depressing scenario...that could come true. However with less schools I would believe. Don't see the Mountaineers under your thinking.
That's because they wouldn't be in a list of 32 or 40 teams. There would only be 2 from the Big 12 that would be. This is all based on football only.
Right now there are 65 teams in P5 world and WVU probably 50 at best and that might be generous.
Don't get your thinking OP
No reason why this rule can't benefit WVU.
Stop trying to make them into a victim.
WVU wants to be an alpha
No reason why this rule can't benefit WVU.
Stop trying to make them into a victim.
WVU wants to be an alpha
Poor OP...
WVU is one of the big boys.
They are much higher on the list than most schools.
They don't look at themselves as a victim
Transfer Portal helps and hurts all schools
If you are recruiting at a high level it is hard to keep all those players.
So you lose players to transfer.
Don't care who your are...
You will lose players.
Same as you will gain players.
If you are recruiting at a high level it is hard to keep all those players.
So you lose players to transfer.
Don't care who your are...
You will lose players.
Same as you will gain players.
Everyone is affected by the transfer portal but it is inevitable. You can't lock in people to a particular place, yet refuse to share the wealth they created forever.
Best thing to do is to make your place as desirable as possible in every way.
There are far more players than there are schools at the top of the foodchain. It will alter recruiting at school like WVU (and all others) not end it.
Best thing to do is to make your place as desirable as possible in every way.
There are far more players than there are schools at the top of the foodchain. It will alter recruiting at school like WVU (and all others) not end it.
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How did I know..
TVZ...the fake blowhard who knows nothing and tries to steer each post into his areas of disinformation has arrived. Time for all of us to put this loon on ignore. What say you?
TVZ...the fake blowhard who knows nothing and tries to steer each post into his areas of disinformation has arrived. Time for all of us to put this loon on ignore. What say you?
Its not gonna make things easier that's for sure. But we have to do better at the things we can control. We have to keep investing and reinvesting in facilities. We have to stop the West Virginia inferiority complex instilled By the Asbestos Ed crowd. When coachs are successful they need to be paid. When they want gold plated toilet seats in the locker room then give it to them. I think the Ad's after ED are doing a better job at this but we have to make sure the cheap skates don't regain power.
Merit to this concern. Folks say all schools will be affected though, but they really won't. Not all 4 and 5 stars pan out at the elite schools and they can't keep 150 kids on scholarship. Therefore they tell these kids to transfer out and then simply replace them with a hidden gem 3 star from one of the "feeder" schools (WVU). The only way to keep from losing complete control (if the NCAA cared) would be to limit the number of transfers a program can accept in a given year. It's still going to be bad, but that might curtail it a little bit.
Ed Pastlilong was the best AD in Mountaineer history. Need more good old boys loyal to the program. Coaches are grossly overpaid. Players are way too coddled. Scholarships need to go. Athletic facilities need downgraded and used for more important endeavors. Academics need to be stressed. Student. Athletes.
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Transfer portal makes no sense at all. It's suppose to be about college first sports 2nd. TV money began this horrific murdering of college sports.
I completely agree Root. I say lets go back to two way players, leather helmits with no face guards , no training staff , weights and special meals. Fotget the air travel, buses will be the only way to go.
I forgot the most important change...get rid of the banana yellow and revert back to the old gold and blue uniforms. All coaches should be in charge of two to three sports.
Gives these players decisions.
Nothing wrong with that. Sometimes a program can slow someone's individual goals down.
You have a certain point that a decision has to be made.
Is it in his first year or his last.
Just as long as WVU brings in players that want to take the chance.
Some players just want to win and play in the NCAA Tournament.
The portal gives and takes away.
Just matters how a coach or program handles it.
Still too many players who are stuck on this one and done.
No player should go into college thinking they can turn pro early
That 5 star ranking has the ability to set that bar on a player.
Oscar is a good player but he shouldn't have abandoned the program that early.
Stuck on leaving college early.
No player should go into college thinking they can turn pro early
That 5 star ranking has the ability to set that bar on a player.
Oscar is a good player but he shouldn't have abandoned the program that early.
Stuck on leaving college early.
Actually...that would be better than the bloaded...self indulgent...fake student version of today. However I think all pads and leather helmets should go also.
Things change.
Rootmaster stuck in the 1950s or something.
Just mindless nonsense.
Pretty sure you wish we could go back to 1956. But it is impossible.
The player decides what is important to them.
This hasn't even changed. If a player wants to take advantage of the educational opportunities it is his decision.
Would actually be a smart choice regardless if you are going to be a pro or not
Rootmaster stuck in the 1950s or something.
Just mindless nonsense.
Pretty sure you wish we could go back to 1956. But it is impossible.
The player decides what is important to them.
This hasn't even changed. If a player wants to take advantage of the educational opportunities it is his decision.
Would actually be a smart choice regardless if you are going to be a pro or not
Just stuck that clown on ignore. Brother will be pissed but I’ll never need to see a thing from this clown handle again. I feel better already. One down like 8 handles to go. Guys a jerk. Thx Root.
Thank you for the offer, Greggy
Transfer Portal is only as good or as bad as the coach makes it.
Especially in basketball. If you can evaluate and you can get what you need out of the transfer portal you can win a lot of games.
Who is the last transfer before this year?
Gabe. A Mike Anderson player at Arkansas. He worked out well
Transfer Portal is only as good or as bad as the coach makes it.
Especially in basketball. If you can evaluate and you can get what you need out of the transfer portal you can win a lot of games.
Who is the last transfer before this year?
Gabe. A Mike Anderson player at Arkansas. He worked out well
Most do not share your thoughts for Ed P... "Good Ole boys" would have Tony Gibson as our HC right now. Shane Lyons is doing a great job, personally I think hes the best since Ive been a fan of WVU ( late 80's)... Factoring in the total health & revenues of all WVU sports.
If you want to be a great program, you have to attract great talent... In order to do so, you need quality facilities. I dont support the 1 time transfer rule without sitting out a year. I think SA's should be able to transfer without losing a redshirt, but still be required to sit out a year. To me, thats a win/win... SA's get to transfer and an extra year of a free education, without infusing free agency into collegiate sports.
As a student you can transfer to a better university if you are accepted.
Why not athletes?
Football program's #1 goal is to create professionals.
What it is. Like I attend a certain law school because it will make be a better attorney.
You have different areas of law..
Just like different positions.
Want to play QB you attend a certain school
Why not athletes?
Football program's #1 goal is to create professionals.
What it is. Like I attend a certain law school because it will make be a better attorney.
You have different areas of law..
Just like different positions.
Want to play QB you attend a certain school
Choice of what? There 1ill only be 14% chosen the rest hung out to dry. Someone should educate them on the risk.
Portal is not college. It's one step closer to being free agency. Once the pay days start coming it will be. These kids have a choice when they start out for college.
If you're not good enough to start at WVU what makes you think you'll start elsewhere?
Some players just want to be center of attention.
Because that athlete isn't changing because of being a student. That's the problem. Nobody thinks of them as students. They transfer so many times they forget they might need to graduate cause everybody doesn't make it to the pros.
I say you if want want to play sports then don't go to college. Start minor leagues do away with college sports save money.
I actually think there is a long term monetary reduction that is not being considered by players. Ill explain:
When a player commits to a program, the vast majority of program fans closely follow their career, we become emotionally attached to them, and their success. We watch them grow, improve, and share in all the memories the program produces over the next 4-5 years. When a player remains at their initial program, they nurture a strong foundation of a following in that period. People who will support their life's endeavors, far beyond their athletic career.
Whenever a player transfer, they practically erase 3-4 years of building a passionate following of supporters, which can be monetized in multiple ways. A transfer is rarely ever followed as closely or even remembered, from the new program fans. They simply dont have the emotional investment the initial program followers have...
In essence, they are undermining 2-4 years of networking, which has far higher monetary value then some short money paid by a booster to get them to fill a position of need for a year. Simply put, the new program fans, simply wont support them as they would a player who originally committed to them, who played their entire career there...
A win/win, would be to allow players to transfer, without losing a redshirt, while still required to sit out a year. That is a solid middle ground that solves all problems and offers value to the players, without compromising NCAA sports. Its a logical option, that somehow NCAA just overlooked with all their expensive education.
When a player commits to a program, the vast majority of program fans closely follow their career, we become emotionally attached to them, and their success. We watch them grow, improve, and share in all the memories the program produces over the next 4-5 years. When a player remains at their initial program, they nurture a strong foundation of a following in that period. People who will support their life's endeavors, far beyond their athletic career.
Whenever a player transfer, they practically erase 3-4 years of building a passionate following of supporters, which can be monetized in multiple ways. A transfer is rarely ever followed as closely or even remembered, from the new program fans. They simply dont have the emotional investment the initial program followers have...
In essence, they are undermining 2-4 years of networking, which has far higher monetary value then some short money paid by a booster to get them to fill a position of need for a year. Simply put, the new program fans, simply wont support them as they would a player who originally committed to them, who played their entire career there...
A win/win, would be to allow players to transfer, without losing a redshirt, while still required to sit out a year. That is a solid middle ground that solves all problems and offers value to the players, without compromising NCAA sports. Its a logical option, that somehow NCAA just overlooked with all their expensive education.
If you so hate the current landscape of college athletics as you clearly do...why do you continue to watch?