If Tony Gibson was the coach today as you mentioned that would mean that he would have been wildly successful for a long time...instead of the debacle of DH etc.
WVU 's football program is about to end.
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So you don't like when players transfer to WVU.
I don't get the thinking.
Everyone loses players. This isn't just something that happens to one school
I don't get the thinking.
Everyone loses players. This isn't just something that happens to one school
Fast Eddy was nothing more than a small time cheap day trader. Outside of the Stewart Hire Pastilong had quite a bit of success when it came to coaching hires. He was pretty much worthless in everything else. He didn't do a good job of keeping coach's happy while employed. Remember the end of the Nehlen years when Don wanted an Indoor Practice facility. Fast Eddy dragged his feet forever on that one. Then there was the constant battles with Rich over funding and facilities. When Huggins 1st came he told Huggins that we couldn't build a Basketball practice facility until 80% of the funds were collected. Huggins didn't have any of that Bs. There were rumors that Izzo Brown and Carey were unhappy. All this pretty much changed when Luck arrived. Luck made the majority of changes Rich wanted. He bumped Huggins salary up and did away with the good ole boy culture that was skimming from the till. When it comes to facilities you have to keep feeding the beast to stay ahead of the competition. The better your facilities are the easier it is to attract better recruits, retain coach's and hire New coach's.
Eddie was much...much. better than the *** Oliver No Luck. Much better than the social justice in chief Lyin' Lyons.
Ok lame brain if players had to pay to play then wvu sports would pretty much go down the tubes. Its not like athletes are going to come to wvu and pay out of state tuition. The schools that would be least effected would be cheap schools in states with large populations. It might help Community College but it certainly isn't going to help Wvu. For someone like yourself who constantly complains about the lack of success of wvu sports this is a clear head scratcher on your part.
Luck modernized the way Wvu did Business. Fast Eddy and his good ole boy chronies were holding the program back.
Luck did what he has done at every stop of his career...f...ed things up, padded his pockets, and escaped from the mess he created. Btw...we need more good old boys back and less of the "modernized " low life...in the offices, on the sidrlines, or on the field.
My biggest problem with Transfer Portal is that it's not monitored. You can smell the sharks in the water that come after players that improve from year 1 to year 2. Tampering will be a huge issue.
There needs to rules and guidelines setup. Perhaps a deadline when you can enter the portal and a deadline when you can talk to players and chose one. Teams should be allowed to use that players scholarship without losing it. Put a number on how many portal players a team can take.
There needs to rules and guidelines setup. Perhaps a deadline when you can enter the portal and a deadline when you can talk to players and chose one. Teams should be allowed to use that players scholarship without losing it. Put a number on how many portal players a team can take.
Luck's biggest mistake was signing Holgorsen to a guaranteed contract for I think it was 10 years and an overrated amount of money with a ridiculous buyout for a guy who had never been a HC before.
So the WVU football players can take their books and sell them for profit like Alabama (which was caught by the NCAA) was doing?
Didn’t know that.
Given the not so big Big East payouts and all there rest of the athletic department mouth’s to feed, Rich’s wish list was longer than his patients. He was only happy when HE got a pay raise the year before he left for Michigan and the greener pastures that he thought he would excel in.
Fast Eddie's problem was that he thought what always was would never change.
Lol. So you can't read...or comprehend. Can you say dumbass DemWit? Thought so. Go play in front of a train moron.
If it were Eddie, we would right now be in CUSA with Marshall collecting TV checks worth $200K/year. State would be on the hook for supporting 45% of the athletic department budget like they already do for Marshall.
If you blow up everything because the players get a share finally of what they brought in, then there won't be a Pitt, WVU, or any of the other school athletic depts. that the various posters here come from to trash players because like you they want a part of what was earned and brought in by themselves.
The players will still get to play because someone will create some sort of minor league system because the pro system still needs players.
but then some of you won't be able to hate and whine and many universities will lose billions of dollars.
Or, as should be, the universities and conferences can share the billions they are getting because of the dedication and hard work of the players, with the players.
Pretty sure that all the coaches making milions off the players, ADs making millions and schools are going to pretend its killing them, then pay up so they can continue raking in millions upon millions year after year.
The players will still get to play because someone will create some sort of minor league system because the pro system still needs players.
but then some of you won't be able to hate and whine and many universities will lose billions of dollars.
Or, as should be, the universities and conferences can share the billions they are getting because of the dedication and hard work of the players, with the players.
Pretty sure that all the coaches making milions off the players, ADs making millions and schools are going to pretend its killing them, then pay up so they can continue raking in millions upon millions year after year.
ironic that you put Pitt before WVU. Thanks for exposing yourself jackhole.
Also, millions has 2 L's not 1.
So more of your uninformed opinions I see. Red herring. What does Marshall have to with anything? Awe...default position.
I agree with you that players are too coddled, however EP being the best AD in WVU history? I hope you were joking. He may have kept us in the black, but made little to no effort at fundraising whatsoever. I remember his minion Mike Parsons said "soliciting new boosters is a waste of time" what a pessimistic defeatist attitude. Rodriguez would have probably stayed a few more years if Ollie was the AD during that time. Eddie cried and used the lame excuse "there's no money" Ollie made a few phone calls and was able to get the $$$. Lyons in my opinion is doing the best fundraiser for the average Joe with the time to climb program for the Mountaineer Athletic Dept.
I remember Ken Kendrick(one of the few millionaire boosters we have) paid for an evaluation of the athletic dept. found 50 descrepansys that could have been easily fixed with little to no $ at all. I remember his final assesment Kendricks words not mine " a 50 million a year operation ran like a dry cleaning store" Ollie may have pissed off some of the good ol boys, but he damn near tripled the tier 3 revenue of the WVU AD. EP may have been a nice guy, but a horrible fundraiser which is what the primary job of the athletic directors is supposed to do.
Use rumor and innuendo much? Sorry but Lyin Lyons is rapidly building a deep hole for WVU sports.
No sir. Just speaking the truth of how it is. Lyons is making an investment into WVU Athletics which will pay off in the long run. IMO this transfer portal will probably end after this year. Don't forget EVERY Div 1A or FBS school president has a vote on who the NCAA Chief is. They'll most likely get the next one to put an end to the transfer BS.
Hey Greggy...
The fake politeness gave it away and then the utter stupidity.
Transfer Portal isn’t going away.
Even for the bottom feeders there is still value.
It is like a manufacturing line with some players
Those schools in the beginning that are putting players into the P5 will be getting credit.
The player may not be going from their school straight to professional sports
But they played a role.
This helps them out immensely when you are talking about separating from their peers
Yes there is a food chain in college athletics like in academics. More importantly there is a food chain in life.
Like thinking your small business is on the same level as a Fortune 500 company.’
Jason, one thing we can agree on. I was never a fan of Fast Eddie Putzalong. He screwed up way more than he accomplished. WVU would be much more of a power if Putzalong had half a brain.
OK, let's start on the Putzalong miscues.
Wouldn't upgrade the Baseball program by first getting rid of VanZant
Screwed up the hiring of Huggins the first time...... and almost the 2nd.
Told Huggs that if he wanted a practice facility to compete with the best programs in the country that he had to raise the money himself....... Wouldn't that be the job of the AD to oversee?
Overly simplistic scenario.
What about the 2nd and 3rd teamers at these blue-blood schools deciding they can go to another school and start?
Kids aren’t going to sit and wait anywhere and when you recruit over them like the blue-bloods are always doing, the kids now can say, ok, I’ve got other options and won’t have to sit a year to go over there.
Whenever rules like these are enacted it’s easy to see the downside, but a defeatist mindset must be mindful that there are less obvious potential benefits.
I don't think the Portal will ever go away. There has to be some changes. Changes to somehow compensate teams that are losing players. More schollies? Paid for years of training, coaching, medical, tuition, room, board, etc from receiving schools? Then what happens to the kids in the Portal that don't get a DI school to pick up their full ride? Some say that 30%+ will be without a full schollie this coming year.
Sure, there will be huge advantages now for the top programs as they pick off the best couple players from the middle programs like WVU. We lost 2 starters to P5 CFP contenders. Then we picked up a number of players from lower schools that put time, effort and money into developing these kids. But not at the quality we lost.
And it will be those lower schools that have to pick players that are left over from the Portal to fill their vacated slots. Some will be an upgrade, most won't.
For the most part, this volume of transferring destroys the continuity of programs. Continuity that is built by players staying around for the full 4 or 5 years.
This may be good if college sports were here only to develop NFL/NBA/MLB players. But it's not. Those that think differently are foolish.
Sure, there will be huge advantages now for the top programs as they pick off the best couple players from the middle programs like WVU. We lost 2 starters to P5 CFP contenders. Then we picked up a number of players from lower schools that put time, effort and money into developing these kids. But not at the quality we lost.
And it will be those lower schools that have to pick players that are left over from the Portal to fill their vacated slots. Some will be an upgrade, most won't.
For the most part, this volume of transferring destroys the continuity of programs. Continuity that is built by players staying around for the full 4 or 5 years.
This may be good if college sports were here only to develop NFL/NBA/MLB players. But it's not. Those that think differently are foolish.
Who is to say that those 2nd and 3rd teamers are near the quality of the kids that have transferred in? They are 2nd and 3rd teamers for a reason. You think WVU is going to replace Miller and Smith in the D Backfield with similar ability players? C'mon Man. You know better than that.