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Pookieray

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What do I use as a pre-emerge? I've been paying a service and it is just to costly as I've been having 2acres sprayed.

I have some dallis grass and nut grass and just the usual NW Ms weeds.
Also, when would I spray? The service I used came out around end of jan.
 

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What do I use as a pre-emerge? I've been paying a service and it is just to costly as I've been having 2acres sprayed.

I have some dallis grass and nut grass and just the usual NW Ms weeds.
Also, when would I spray? The service I used came out around end of jan.
MSMA when the temperature is above 70. Finding it can be hard, but Sruggs in Tupelo carries it. I do my own yard and it looks amazing. Just don’t over spray like I did two summers ago.
 

Pookieray

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Way more educated people than me on this , but Spectacle is the bomb. Expensive but goes a really long way. You only use like .10 oz/1000 or something close.
Well I have a 35g tank sprayer so that would be near about impossible not to kill the penguins at the South Pole. But, thank you!
 
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While your grass is dormant spray roundup and prodiamine.

Prodiamine is one of the best preemerges for lawns. I had a ton of crabgrass in my yard two years ago and I sprayed it with prodiamine and had zero crab grass this past summer. I didn’t spray MSMA at all in the summer.
 

ronpolk

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What do I use as a pre-emerge? I've been paying a service and it is just to costly as I've been having 2acres sprayed.

I have some dallis grass and nut grass and just the usual NW Ms weeds.
Also, when would I spray? The service I used came out around end of jan.
What type of grass do you have?
 

OG Goat Holder

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This debate never ends. I am paying a service this year, but I only have a half acre.

But 2 acres? Eek. I might just let whatever grow. Try and establish centipede. That’s what did when I had 3 acres. Never even considered paying for a service.

Are you in the country or are you in a neighborhood?
 

ronpolk

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Just making sure you didn’t have st Augustine with the msma recommendation. It does work great as a post emergent but I don’t think it can used on st Augustine. It’s fine on Bermuda.

there is a product called sedgehammer that is great on nutsedge. Kills other stuff too but I keep some on hand because inevitably you’ll have some pop up on the summer. That is generally the only weed I have come up from time to time.

I agree with what the others have posted as far as a pre emergent. Do it in the fall and spring going forward. You’ll notice a huge difference.
 

Pookieray

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This debate never ends. I am paying a service this year, but I only have a half acre.

But 2 acres? Eek. I might just let whatever grow. Try and establish centipede. That’s what did when I had 3 acres. Never even considered paying for a service.

Are you in the country or are you in a neighborhood?
country, I will expand my yard if I can control weeds without a service. i only had 2 acres done because of the cost.
 

Pookieray

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Just making sure you didn’t have st Augustine with the msma recommendation. It does work great as a post emergent but I don’t think it can used on st Augustine. It’s fine on Bermuda.

there is a product called sedgehammer that is great on nutsedge. Kills other stuff too but I keep some on hand because inevitably you’ll have some pop up on the summer. That is generally the only weed I have come up from time to time.

I agree with what the others have posted as far as a pre emergent. Do it in the fall and spring going forward. You’ll notice a huge difference.
Thank you!
 
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DawgNsuds

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pre-emerge twice a year, October and February (I live in Central MS) Dallis grass can be a bear, I use MSMA for that and subsequent spray Celsius WG as Post Emerge. As some have said Roundup your Dallis, if and only if you know your Bermuda is dormant. You can also take the tact of sacrificing the surrounding Bermuda and fill back over with sand to have the Bermuda backfill, I do this in the summer but the Post Emerge that I mentioned above has eradicated most of it. FYI it will take you a couple of seasons possibly to totally eradicate.
This is a nice source for any chemicals that you can't find readily locally

https://www.domyown.com/
 
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ababyatemydingo

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While your grass is dormant spray roundup and prodiamine.

Prodiamine is one of the best preemerges for lawns. I had a ton of crabgrass in my yard two years ago and I sprayed it with prodiamine and had zero crab grass this past summer. I didn’t spray MSMA at all in the summer.
note on that. it's been a lot warmer than avg the last few weeks. there's a chance some of the stuff, including crab grass, has germinated. I'm using Dithiopyr this year in January. It is a pre-emerge, but also has some post emerge capability if the weeds are very young. I'm hitting with Dithiopyr for the crab grass and Simazine for mainly lawn burweed (stickers) and other weeds that have already germinated. Come back again the first of March with another round of Simazine. Spot spray Atrazine for a few weeds.
 
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Villagedawg

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While your grass is dormant spray roundup and prodiamine.

Prodiamine is one of the best preemerges for lawns. I had a ton of crabgrass in my yard two years ago and I sprayed it with prodiamine and had zero crab grass this past summer. I didn’t spray MSMA at all in the summer.
If I killed my crabgrass and nettles, I’d have a dirt field. Bought a house last year and it’s pretty much weeds. No idea where to even start trying to get grass. I do have a pretty decent st Augustine patch on one side.
 
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Wesson Bulldog

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If I killed my crabgrass and nettles, I’d have a dirt field. Bought a house last year and it’s pretty much weeds. No idea where to even start trying to get grass. I do have a pretty decent st Augustine patch on one side.
Here in Wesson, too.
 

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I do the Roundup/glyphosate in late February and hit it with prodiamine at the 1st week of Feb, May, July and Nov. Try to time it with a rain so I don't have to water it in.
 
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What do I use as a pre-emerge? I've been paying a service and it is just to costly as I've been having 2acres sprayed.

I have some dallis grass and nut grass and just the usual NW Ms weeds.
Also, when would I spray? The service I used came out around end of jan.
I have 2.5 acres of bermuda as well and it was costing me $3500/yr to spray, lime and fertilize....got insane...i just do it myself now, and actually do it better....Prodiamine is your answer for easy to use and easy to find....I would do it once in early February, and then again in late April....there are a ton of different things you can use, but that is the best 'on label' you will find for your grass....a lot of the stuff i use is off label, bc i can get it....i am totally against using MSMA as a post bc it burns the crap out of the grass....use Celsius here bc it has some residual effect too...
 

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If I killed my crabgrass and nettles, I’d have a dirt field. Bought a house last year and it’s pretty much weeds. No idea where to even start trying to get grass. I do have a pretty decent st Augustine patch on one side.
If you want to start a lawn, i’d go Bermuda, it’s hardy, drought resistant and all you need to do to it is hit it with a hot dose of MSMA three or four times a summer. 13-13-13 is the only fertilizer it needs. Two cons are, it doesn’t grow in the shade and Army worms seem to prefer it.

Do not sod with centipede, no matter what.
 
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FormerBully

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I had a former coworker who used to work for TruGreen. He told me that yard spraying companies are some of the biggest rip offs. If you could see their margins, your mind would be blown, or you would be pissed. It is so much cheaper to do it yourself.
 
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I had a former coworker who used to work for TruGreen. He told me that yard spraying companies are some of the biggest rip offs. If you could see their margins, your mind would be blown, or you would be pissed. It is so much cheaper to do it yourself.
It really is. I’m the only one on my street that takes care of my yard on my own. These lawn guys make a killing.
 

ronpolk

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I had a former coworker who used to work for TruGreen. He told me that yard spraying companies are some of the biggest rip offs. If you could see their margins, your mind would be blown, or you would be pissed. It is so much cheaper to do it yourself.
I’ve never priced it out but I can’t imagine I’d feel like I get my money worth of times savings. I really don’t spend a lot of time working on my yard. Pre emergent 2 times a year, fertilize a few times and then deal with any weeds that pop up, which is pretty rare. It’s definitely not a daily or even weekly task for me. I think a lot of people pay because it’s seems overwhelming.
 

Pookieray

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I have 2.5 acres of bermuda as well and it was costing me $3500/yr to spray, lime and fertilize....got insane...i just do it myself now, and actually do it better....Prodiamine is your answer for easy to use and easy to find....I would do it once in early February, and then again in late April....there are a ton of different things you can use, but that is the best 'on label' you will find for your grass....a lot of the stuff i use is off label, bc i can get it....i am totally against using MSMA as a post bc it burns the crap out of the grass....use Celsius here bc it has some residual effect too...
Thank you!

I will eventually get to 3-4 acres for my lawn and it will be insane $ to have someone else spray it.
 
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