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Look up blue bloods and no site you visit will not have UK listed , so yes , UK is a Blueblood
yeah and if you don’t see what he said as a slap in the face it’s because you got Pope’s pipe balls deep in your mouth
I didn’t read the whole thread but the interesting thing to me was why would this dude bring it up so specifically? Obviously a little recruiting sound bite for Michigan but as others said he could’ve just said it generically. But he called out Pope by name with numbers (which I believe is probably like $3m base salary and “up to” money on top of that which actually coincides with some of the JMI info).
It was like a political attack ad hit piece lol. Seems to me somebody’s trying to take the kill shot on Pope. On the (almost) Ides of March no less.
Et tu, Barney?
Wouldn't it be awesome to meet them in the elite 8 and end their season again.
Oh well, one can dream.
Oh well, one can dream.
Anyone who believes that, I've got this bridge I'd like to sell you
I'm shocked that any of you are actually believing what Yaxel says.
One miinute you're telling me that Mark Pope refuses to get into bidding wars.
Now I'm being asked to believe that Mark Pope won the bidding war, and the kid wouldn't take his money?
Did you guys know that Yaxel has an agent. And that agent gets paid money based on how much money Yaxel gets. And you're telling me that agent didn't leverage Michigan with Kentucky's offer?
Yaxel talks about worrying about his future. 9 million dollars is a whole future, bro. 9 million dollars is set for life. Yaxel wouldn't say no. His agent wouldn't let him say no.
And if they wanted Michigan badly enough, they would have leveraged it for a lot more than the reported 1/3 as much.
The kid was asked about what factored into his choice. He's a kid and doesn't want to look bad for saying "Shoot, I took the money."
But, make no mistake. He and his agent didn't give Michigan some mega discount.
I think it's easy to see this as confirmation of YET ANOTHER Mark Pope failure. And I'm with you as far as Pope having a lot of failures. But man, let's not let the outsiders make up stuff on our own.
You want to be mad at the substitution pattern? Kill him.
You think he's a bad recruiter because he wouldn't pay up for elite players? Kill him.
You hear a Michigan player wouldn't take all the money in the world from Mark Pope? Call that BS out.
One miinute you're telling me that Mark Pope refuses to get into bidding wars.
Now I'm being asked to believe that Mark Pope won the bidding war, and the kid wouldn't take his money?
Did you guys know that Yaxel has an agent. And that agent gets paid money based on how much money Yaxel gets. And you're telling me that agent didn't leverage Michigan with Kentucky's offer?
Yaxel talks about worrying about his future. 9 million dollars is a whole future, bro. 9 million dollars is set for life. Yaxel wouldn't say no. His agent wouldn't let him say no.
And if they wanted Michigan badly enough, they would have leveraged it for a lot more than the reported 1/3 as much.
The kid was asked about what factored into his choice. He's a kid and doesn't want to look bad for saying "Shoot, I took the money."
But, make no mistake. He and his agent didn't give Michigan some mega discount.
I think it's easy to see this as confirmation of YET ANOTHER Mark Pope failure. And I'm with you as far as Pope having a lot of failures. But man, let's not let the outsiders make up stuff on our own.
You want to be mad at the substitution pattern? Kill him.
You think he's a bad recruiter because he wouldn't pay up for elite players? Kill him.
You hear a Michigan player wouldn't take all the money in the world from Mark Pope? Call that BS out.
Of course he leveraged Michigan to get the most he could from them that is what agents do. But at the end, he signed for a lot less because he didn't want to play for Pope for the reasons he stated. It is as simple as that.
"A lot less."
We don't have proof he played for a dollar less. The kid claims he did. Show me the bank statements. Show me the agent's commission. The kid was so scared of Mark Pope he wouldn't take set for life money? Doesn't compute.
Again, I'm team Fire Pope. But let's be intellectually honest.
We were mad that Pope was being cheap with his offers on elite recruits. They said he didn't understand the market and wouldn't get into bidding wars. Now you're telling me he's offering nearly 10 million dollars for 1 player
I'm not capable of believing that basketball players that are out here bag chasing are turning down "way more money" from Mark Pope. If we believe he's willing to hand over 7 million dollars, we should be ecstatic. A lot of really good players are going to take that offer.
I believe Yaxel would have actually taken that offer.
I also can't compute that we have a 22 million dollar roster. And 1 year of Yaxel was going to be 7 or 9 million. Doesn't seem to work.
This is 1 kid running his mouth. You're certainly welcome to eat it up.
Mark me down as another that doesnt believe this at all. He would have to be the dumbest person on earth to turn down 3x life changing money. And im a big pope critic and dont think he will work here but come on...if we offered $9 mil. ..
Nobody says no and goes to play for $2 mil instead .... stupid
These programs really just want to kick us while we are down in anyway possible. Bonus money to players to make up Bull crap like thus
Nobody says no and goes to play for $2 mil instead .... stupid
These programs really just want to kick us while we are down in anyway possible. Bonus money to players to make up Bull crap like thus
You've gone and outsmarted yourself.
There have been documented cases where pro players in the NFL and NBA have taken less money to remain with or sign with a championship team.
You can dispute that Yaxel is one of those people but to say "He would have to be the dumbest person on earth" is absurd. It does and has happened.
So if what Yaxel is saying is not true, should Pope publicly respond?
What is the downside to publicly refuting the claim?
If Pope has a leg to stand on here, I think he should tell the media that an offer of that amount was never extended and he'd take a polygraph to.back up his claim if they wanted to dispute it.
What is the downside to publicly refuting the claim?
If Pope has a leg to stand on here, I think he should tell the media that an offer of that amount was never extended and he'd take a polygraph to.back up his claim if they wanted to dispute it.
I don’t. I think Pearl is a clown. But he won. Why? He could get players and can coach. Pope can do neither. And he also does something that cringe. It absolutely matters.
Why would he go to the media with this right now even if it were true?
Surely you can see that UK was still a huge part of their decision, right? How many times have we heard UK was a players dream school?
For what it's worth, two college basketball reporters (one being Kyle Tucker) think the kid is full of crap.
This is getting interesting. We now have fashion critics on Rafters!! Could you start a thread telling us what the cool kids wear???It’s because Mitch is maybe the only effing bigger dork than Pope associated with UK athletics. Cool sweater vest Mitch.
The Wolverines looked like the best team in the country at times in the early season. They are very good, but the distance between them and other teams seems to close after the loss to Duke. Their games become dramatically closer and then Purdue topped them in the B1G finale. They need to return to their early season dominance for a run in the NCAAT.
“Go to the media with this”
LOL you make it sound like he was standing outside AP’s offices with a picket sign yelling.
They sent a reporter to interview him inside his team arena because he’s the best player on a 1 seed right before the tournament and the subject came up.
Clown.
Who cares? Show me the next guy that turns down that kind of money. Yea, it ain’t happening. He went elsewhere because he knew he couldn’t handle the pressure of playing here. Never heard of the dude.
The real question here should be:
Why is Yaxel bringing this up NOW, instead of worrying about HIS team's first game??
Why is Yaxel bringing this up NOW, instead of worrying about HIS team's first game??
Some of you hate Mark Pope so badly, you’re ignoring reality to further support your hate of him.
yAxel didn’t spurn us to go to Miami of Ohio, who doesn’t have any money.
He went to Michigan. Michigan is a wealthy school with wealthy donors. If you believe that, Kentucky could do 9 million but the best Michigan could do was 3 million, you’re not living in reality.
Kentucky reportedly paid Otega 3 to 4,000,000. Hell let’s call it five to be generous.
Yeah, here’s Mark Pope offering axle darn near double.
The math doesn’t math.
yAxel didn’t spurn us to go to Miami of Ohio, who doesn’t have any money.
He went to Michigan. Michigan is a wealthy school with wealthy donors. If you believe that, Kentucky could do 9 million but the best Michigan could do was 3 million, you’re not living in reality.
Kentucky reportedly paid Otega 3 to 4,000,000. Hell let’s call it five to be generous.
Yeah, here’s Mark Pope offering axle darn near double.
The math doesn’t math.
i dont need to see bank statements. all i need to do is look at his recruiting results to date to know that there is no amount of money that is convincing kids to play for pope.
although if the kid did indeed lie, UK is liable to sue for libel.
But this is such a goofy statement.
3 months ago, we were told Mark Pope lost recruiting battles because he was cheap. And now we're being told that they won't take any amount of money from him.
This is the same board that constantly posts stuff like "Offer Billy Donovan 20 million dollars! Money talks!!" But by god, 9 million dollars can't overcome Mark Pope.
Obviously, Mark Pope lost the recruiting battle. But does that prove he offered the most money? No. In fact, I think the "Mark Pope is cheap" narrative is far more likely than "Mark Pope wrote blank checks and none of these bag chasing 20 year olds would take them." That just defies logic.
I'll add:
This time last year, the story was that Yaxel and his agent wanted guaranteed AND up front "NIL" money. To get his commitment, teams were asked for a check, that they would not get back regardless of what happened after.
Yaxel then would go through the draft process and decide whether or not to stay in the NBA draft. And if he stayed, well, thanks for the money.
Now, an AP reporter asked him about his recruitment. I assume Yaxel didn't want to say "This was my chance to make a lot of money, and Michigan paid better." So he's given this BS about Kentucky offered the most, but he was just happy to play at Michigan for table scraps.
Michigan is rich. Michigan could match Kentucky's crazy offer that didn't even exist. If Kentucky offered 9 million, the agent wasn't going to let it be done for Michigan (or any other school) at 3 million. In fact, why didn't they go and shop several other schools if the best Michigan could do was 3 million? Because they were so happy to be in Ann Arbor?
C'mon.
Again, I have no problem dunking on Pope for his recruiting failures. But this is pure ********.
This time last year, the story was that Yaxel and his agent wanted guaranteed AND up front "NIL" money. To get his commitment, teams were asked for a check, that they would not get back regardless of what happened after.
Yaxel then would go through the draft process and decide whether or not to stay in the NBA draft. And if he stayed, well, thanks for the money.
Now, an AP reporter asked him about his recruitment. I assume Yaxel didn't want to say "This was my chance to make a lot of money, and Michigan paid better." So he's given this BS about Kentucky offered the most, but he was just happy to play at Michigan for table scraps.
Michigan is rich. Michigan could match Kentucky's crazy offer that didn't even exist. If Kentucky offered 9 million, the agent wasn't going to let it be done for Michigan (or any other school) at 3 million. In fact, why didn't they go and shop several other schools if the best Michigan could do was 3 million? Because they were so happy to be in Ann Arbor?
C'mon.
Again, I have no problem dunking on Pope for his recruiting failures. But this is pure ********.
who said we were losing recruits because we were cheap....... we cant even land a kid ranked in the 100s to come here. its not a money issue. its a pope issue.
This is Mitch's fault 100% because he hired Pope did didn't consider Pearl or Oats.
If this is true, Pope needs to be gone after year 3 unless his wins a title.
This makes sense based off the consistency of not getting recruits. We will probably wiff on Collins today again.
Just more proof he's not the guy.
Yaxel is either lying, or he’s a complete idiot for not taking it. Either way, he looks like a fool.
I would believe his overall sentiment of playing at Michigan for less money and the main reason was because of Dusty May. The number seems pretty embellished to me, but either way, terrible timing right before going into portal season.
I'll add this too. It's easy to look at this through the lens of Pope sucks and May is this amazing basketball coach.
This time last year: Pope had Kentucky as a 3 seed. Dusty May had Michigan as a 5 seed. Both went to the Sweet 16.
Am I convinced as of today that Dusty May is better than Pope? Sure.
Was it so clearly obvious that Pope was the inferior coach that kids were taking MILLIONS less to play for May? After Pope just had the better regular season? I don't think so.
This time last year: Pope had Kentucky as a 3 seed. Dusty May had Michigan as a 5 seed. Both went to the Sweet 16.
Am I convinced as of today that Dusty May is better than Pope? Sure.
Was it so clearly obvious that Pope was the inferior coach that kids were taking MILLIONS less to play for May? After Pope just had the better regular season? I don't think so.
Money aside, why would any kid think Michigan bolsters their potential NBA career more than Kentucky?
because michigan let him play SF and shoot threes, play on the perimeter. and they doubled down and went out and got mara to play center and johnson to play PF.
dusty put his goals first. its about the name on the back of the jersey for these guys. what are you doing for me?
This is kind of what Matt Jones just said on KSR. He might have took slightly less to go to Michigan, but not the insane amount Yaxel is claiming
Ah. So you think he knew Dusty May would let him play out of position, and Mark Pope wouldn't.
And then Mark Pope--who had a 7 foot center dribbling the ball up the court and initiating the offense with passes out of the high post--Mark wasn't smart enough to point that out or sell it.
Makes sense.