Yeah, there's no way we could find a better coach than Stans...
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Just what the 17 do you expect after some of our recent losses, knowing we were thru, as far as the NCAA is concerned...
Oh yeah, i know you have all of the answers... especially since the air is out of our balloon ,( for this year.)
Eat ****!
Oh yeah, i know you have all of the answers... especially since the air is out of our balloon ,( for this year.)
Eat ****!
BUT... what would you do differently if you were the coach? This team has the least amount of talent that I can remember from an MSU team. Some of that may be youth, but Bailey, Stewart and Johnson could leave town tonight and not be missed in any way.
So, go ahead and spill it. What would be your gameplan that would undoubtedly lead this team to an NC or 10.
So, go ahead and spill it. What would be your gameplan that would undoubtedly lead this team to an NC or 10.
...MSU fanbase can watch Ninja make a great hire in football, make an outstanding hire in baseball, yet still believes Ninja will be totally lost when/if he ever has to hire a basketball coach.
Somebody needs to explain that one to me.
Somebody needs to explain that one to me.
I think its the tenure of Stansbury. We havent ever really been terrible under Stans. Weve been average to above average every year. Hes been consistently average and hasnt had one of those seasons that you look at and say you can fire a guy thats been here a while like Bama could this year with Gottfried. Weve never been bad, just performed below expectations, but got some wins in postseason or tournament play that kinda makes everyone forget about how we underacheived in the regular season. I think its getting to the point to where we need to be better than above average with the talent we have, and I dont think we can be better than that under Stansbury.
First thing I would do is ignore you comment about the national championships since by that statement you don't think anything else can be done.
Second thing I would do is realize that my team was an NIT team at best from day one and invest more minutes in Kodi and Osby instead of destroying their sophomore and freshman years respectively. Brian Johnson would see the floor about as frequently as Bolen.
Third, I would clean house on that staff and find me some assistant coaches who know the game and love to recruit. Either single or divorced, but definitely not married.
Fourth I would attempt to learn an actual offense in the offseason instead of relying on the infamous motion. Once armed with this offense, I would spend most of the fall teaching it to my team.
Fifth I would take a year off from recruiting guards and find some SEC-caliber post players.
Sixth I would spend at least 15 minutes a day teaching my players to fight through screens. I would also invest time in teaching the principles of show and recover when your man is the screener.
Seventh I would show my team how to actually set a high ball screen. I would keep Elgin Bailey and Brian Johnson late after practice to make sure they understand this, even though Johnson would never play.
Eighth I would force my guys to run the drill where you go strong to the rim and you either hit the shot or get fouled, but no more of this dipsy do crap to try and keep from getting the shot blocked. As a companion to this drill, we would shoot free throws at the end of practice.
Ninth I would take my spreadsheet on substitution patterns and delete it from my hard drive. I would then do my best to limit my two or three best players to 30-32 minutes a game as much as possible. Anyone below that would be lucky to get 25.
Tenth I would practice over and over and over closing out on three point shooters. I mean I would do a LOT of this.
That's a start. But it would probably not lead to 10 national championships like we are about to win.
Second thing I would do is realize that my team was an NIT team at best from day one and invest more minutes in Kodi and Osby instead of destroying their sophomore and freshman years respectively. Brian Johnson would see the floor about as frequently as Bolen.
Third, I would clean house on that staff and find me some assistant coaches who know the game and love to recruit. Either single or divorced, but definitely not married.
Fourth I would attempt to learn an actual offense in the offseason instead of relying on the infamous motion. Once armed with this offense, I would spend most of the fall teaching it to my team.
Fifth I would take a year off from recruiting guards and find some SEC-caliber post players.
Sixth I would spend at least 15 minutes a day teaching my players to fight through screens. I would also invest time in teaching the principles of show and recover when your man is the screener.
Seventh I would show my team how to actually set a high ball screen. I would keep Elgin Bailey and Brian Johnson late after practice to make sure they understand this, even though Johnson would never play.
Eighth I would force my guys to run the drill where you go strong to the rim and you either hit the shot or get fouled, but no more of this dipsy do crap to try and keep from getting the shot blocked. As a companion to this drill, we would shoot free throws at the end of practice.
Ninth I would take my spreadsheet on substitution patterns and delete it from my hard drive. I would then do my best to limit my two or three best players to 30-32 minutes a game as much as possible. Anyone below that would be lucky to get 25.
Tenth I would practice over and over and over closing out on three point shooters. I mean I would do a LOT of this.
That's a start. But it would probably not lead to 10 national championships like we are about to win.
We are scared to make a hire so our fans justify and try everything they can to come up with reasons for retaining a coach. Richard Williams could have stayed at MSU for a lifetime and obviously when HE made the call to step down, the easy hire of Stans was made. Jackie was here for over a decade and we see how LT botched the following hire. Same with Polk. HE made the decision to leave and Pat had already been lined up for the job. When PAT made the decision to leave, we went right back to the Polk well without even bothering with a national search. Now, for some reason, our fans think our AD and athletic department are too stupid to conduct a coaching search like every other college bball program does. You look within your program and if there's nothing there you look for the hot names from the previous couple of NCAA tourneys and you start your list there.
I was very curious to hear Coach34's oh-so obvious solution, though. Most failed baseball coaches are wizzes at coaching basketball (and selling rubbers).
I can't help but agree about getting rid of the assistant coaches. Kirby getting passed by at Alcorn is embarrassing for everbody involved on this side. And, I don't know if Cunningham has ever had an interview. As in the football world, Stans may have to play this card to keep his job.</p>
I can't help but agree about getting rid of the assistant coaches. Kirby getting passed by at Alcorn is embarrassing for everbody involved on this side. And, I don't know if Cunningham has ever had an interview. As in the football world, Stans may have to play this card to keep his job.</p>
Thats exactly what I think, but I never wrote it because I thought it would take too long. All of things are great and we could probably add a few more like playing inside out ball gives you more open three pointers instead of jacking up 3's at will whenever. Im sure there are some more. This team just doesnt execute very well. Stans has a terrible offensive game plan and we cant do anything with it. If he doesnt figure out how to run plays for certain people or figure out some sort of offensive that works, we will always be average.
I'm not a ninja, and to be honest I know very little about basketball in general, BUT I know how to use google and type in "top young college basketball coaches".
I'm sure Mr. Byrne can handle that as well.
And I actually came up with Anthony Grant and Sean Miller- and I have no idea if we could realistically get them or not, but it's a start.
And then I'm also sure that Greg can watch the NCAA Tournament and look at all of those mid majors and maybe unearth some more candidates.
I'm sure Mr. Byrne can handle that as well.
And I actually came up with Anthony Grant and Sean Miller- and I have no idea if we could realistically get them or not, but it's a start.
And then I'm also sure that Greg can watch the NCAA Tournament and look at all of those mid majors and maybe unearth some more candidates.
Why not start 4 guards, shoot 30 plus 3 pointer per game, have no offensive plays, play no defense at all, block a bunch of shots & forget to rebound the damn ball.. That is our team this year....
to Auburn by double-digits...they don't even care about basketball. they're clearly a better team than us this year and their school doesn't even give a **** about the sport.
Also, I don't care if we've been through a national disaster, I want to see effort out there every single game. People pay good money to go to the games and at the very least should expect some effort out of the team and its coaches no matter if they're 20-5 or 5-20.
I've somewhat defended Stans in the past, but this season has been a huge choke job. Say what you want about the 4 guard lineup working, it sure hasn't the last several games, and I'd rather take further development of our young post players over throwing up a prayer from the arc 30 times a game. We'll never know, but I'd bet with keeping a traditional lineup as opposed to going to the 4 guard set when we did that we'd be in the same shape record wise now and would be looking much better for next year.
Also, I don't care if we've been through a national disaster, I want to see effort out there every single game. People pay good money to go to the games and at the very least should expect some effort out of the team and its coaches no matter if they're 20-5 or 5-20.
I've somewhat defended Stans in the past, but this season has been a huge choke job. Say what you want about the 4 guard lineup working, it sure hasn't the last several games, and I'd rather take further development of our young post players over throwing up a prayer from the arc 30 times a game. We'll never know, but I'd bet with keeping a traditional lineup as opposed to going to the 4 guard set when we did that we'd be in the same shape record wise now and would be looking much better for next year.