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Anyone that's been around this site knows Rambinman. He will never agree. Private through and through. Blinders I tell ya!
Yesterday's blowouts...wake up IHSA!
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Anyone that's been around this site knows Rambinman. He will never agree. Private through and through. Blinders I tell ya!
Personally I think it'd be a shame if they split, but even more I don't think it will ever happen. Question though for those that are proponents of the split: what do the ADs and coaches want?
If you believe this, my question would be why do privates whine about being multiplied or success factored up?
If you read their arguments, 100% of them are basically against them having actual competition.
Whiner! Female reproductive organ! 10 yrs ago when you got your bloody multiplier, I said at the time that the whiners would return. You can't help yourselves! And here you are whining like a baby because private schools won HALF of the state titles this year. Pathetic.
Nice quote it's very Catlick of you.
Still no answer about how 331 privates winning state championships vs 1188 publics. How does this happen? Catlicks just better than all those publics? right recruiting has nothing to do with it! Lol
Bones your so right. There excuse is calling us whiners! Big whoop.
How about we keep the recruiting to the town the schools are in for all athletes. They can recruit all they want for academics but athletes would have to be within the school district just like the publics. That would even the playing field. We could even get rid of the multiplier.
You know what's class, using an intentional misspelling to refer to Catholics. I pointed out a reason folks choose private schools, and you demean the religion of billions.
I would prefer HS sports not turn into semi-pro sports. To me the draw of HS sports is the community aspect, the fact that we're there supporting kids who are just us but some decades later. Kids that went to the same schools and played at the same parks. Or if you have left where you grew up starting the same sentiment elsewhere. So I don't want to see a free for all from closed boundaried schools.
Open boundaried schools is a different beast, a different type of community, which is fine in itself. They should just measure up in the post season against the same since we have the data at this point which very clearly highlights the differences. Denying it is in line with believing in a flat earth.
The excuse of getting better is ridiculous. Non-boundary schools are limited to their kids!!! We can get better, but when the private schools go out and get better players it's irrelevant the work that we are putting in with our own kids. High schools athletes don't improve at an astronomical rate. I know many good programs with great coaches, but you can't do much about teams having better players. Stop being so naive about the situation.
I only repeated the spelling that one of your own followers posted. Sorry if I offended. What's classless is being Catholic and recruiting with an unfair advantage then pumping your chest and calling publics whiners when they call you out.
Crickets on how 331 privates can win all those state championship ships when there are 1188 publics schools in in the state? The privates haven't answered that yet.
Well sure, I'm just trying to establish what a private schools "district" is supposed to be since that doesn't exist currently as a classification.
The boundary should be just like the public schools for all athletes only
The non- athletes can come as far as they want to recruit.
It takes a special kind of arrogance to compare the misspelling of Catholic to your joking about weapons inside a school. It takes a special kind of POS to try and spin it to play the victim now.
Ok Corey, I'll take the bait. How many state championships have the privates won compared to the publics?
And I am not sure exactly where you are getting your numbers from, but here's a start. The link below lists all of the IHSA member schools and their enrollment. It shows 810 total schools, if I counted right, but it's probably a good place to start.
http://ihsa.org/Schools/EnrollmentsClassifications/AlphabeticalEnrollments.aspx
My kids are in a public school - I can't afford private school, but I can afford to live here.
Wish I could do both for several reasons. None pertain to athletics.
You people amuse me - both sides really. It's just fun pulling your chain bro ... Whatever happens happens, cream always rises and the ratios won't change, but it raises the bar for some, lowers it for others.
Enjoy halftime orange slices provided by the Momsters Cheering Squad ... maybe they will buy trophies to hand out after their Black Friday shopping sprees.
Enjoy halftime orange slices provided by the Momsters Cheering Squad ... maybe they will buy trophies to hand out after their Black Friday shopping sprees.
I don't even know what that means, nor do I understand what that has to do with my criticism of you flippantly using weapons in a school in a post of yours.
It means people choose private schools for many reasons. Safety being one. theology, community and education. It's not just athletics. There will always be small percentages of folks who move little Jonny about for the wrong reasons - both public or private. But that's not how rosters are built. It simply is not.
How come it cost less per student for a family to send their kid to a private school then is does for the government per student in the public schools? I think if you think this over you will find the answer to your own question.
I don't think it is either. I think separation isn't going to happen and it's a bad idea. I'd still like people to say how separation is going to happen, and why it's a good idea.
But that has nothing to do with how crappy it is to even use weapons in school as a reason for anything, on a football message board.
It's a fact of life. We can even keep track for this school year if you want a larger sample size to see my point is accurate.
We could discuss crimes in certain environments involving children.......if you really would like to. These crimes typically end in millions of dollars of tithes given to families with the agreement to no longer discuss it.
It's apparent he is not much of a numbers guy, although he has no problem throwing around inflated ones.
I'm just going to ask you directly:
Why would the privates want to separate, how does it help them, and what AD/coaches want to separate?
I think most private schools don't want to separate. BUT, if the IHSA were to separate private schools into their own playoff divisions, why would private schools want to stay in an association that is governed by a prohibitive public school majority? Why stay in an association that has been hell bent on WEAKENING private schools at every opportunity? Why would private schools want to remain in an association that blatantly discriminates against them?
Unlike public schools, private schools compete in the marketplace for students. Once the environment within the IHSA becomes so onerous, so vile that private schools feel that their ability to compete is being compromised by continued membership in the IHSA, or once someone can show how separating can be used as a means to ENHANCE their ability to compete in that marketplace, then I think you will see more private schools be interested in separation.
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Does anyone of influence in the Catholic League agree with you? Serious question.
Given your accusations here private schools would be insane to want to stay in such an association... the two options I see (please let me know if I am presenting a false dichotomy) are that either your accusations are spurious, or private schools are winning overall due to the IHSA.
No idea. I would hope that at least a few of them would have the stones to stand up to to the IHSA if the IHSA were to mandate separate private school divisions.
What accusations are spurious? That the IHSA has a prohibitive majority on its governing board? That the IHSA blatantly discriminates? Pick one or all and let's have at it.
See I don't think it's so much a public vs. private thing. I think that's an easy thing to shield yourself behind. I've been around this board and have read your thoughts on this enough to think it's more elitism than anything else.
Is it elitism when the public cabal of bones, corey, lweastdad, HHSTF, et al are calling for separation?